Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 In a message dated 7/25/2004 1:10:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, betherfrankster@... writes: > Is it safe to try these things even > without a diagnosis or knowing 100% that this is what I think it > is? The holistic dr I was thinking of going to works with natural > supplements that have not only vitamins and stuff, but herbs and > different things, too. > > Check your morning temperature before you even get out of bed and report it back. The temp is a great indicator along with your symptoms. Herbs and all are beneficial...but if you need thyroid hormone....they may not do the trick. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 In a message dated 7/25/2004 9:30:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, kclark@... writes: > i started delta yesterday and have my armour, ready to go, after a week or > 2 on the delta....still need to get blood work, at some point.... > The delta is good. I was reading last night how that low dosage is often used for arthritis...and without the side effects of large dosages. The Delta has really made a difference in my endurance and overall feeling of being stronger. So you just stay with your plan and things will get better. I'm about 5 months into treatment now....and although lots of things improved in the first months....it wasn't until the fourth month that I really started feeling like I just might live (smile) and actually feel well and healthy again. Take care. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 In a message dated 7/25/2004 10:28:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, betherfrankster@... writes: > The people in our family tend to get cancer and heart disease Well..the heart disease can certainly be low thyroid. Have they had heart attacks? And low T3 is associated with breast cancer. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 In a message dated 7/25/2004 10:41:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, kclark@... writes: > and i read in one of your earlier posts that you are still on 2.5 of delta. > how much armour are you taking by now and how long did it take you to work > up to that? > > I think I want to try upping the Delta back to 5.0. I did that for about two weeks...but it almost felt like too much for me...so I dropped to 2.5 and that feels really good. I'm on 4 grains of Armour. 2 in the morning, 2 around 1:30. I worked up pretty fast. Got up to that point in about 4 1/2 months with no symptoms of hyper. My body was screaming for thyroid hormone and I am amazed that I was able to handle it that fast. But i did. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 cindi your answers to bethany were outlined so succinctly. i am going to keep that one when i finally get the time to get in and have blood work. (although, like so many of us, i dread even going IN to see them...) i started delta yesterday and have my armour, ready to go, after a week or 2 on the delta....still need to get blood work, at some point.... thanks! k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 I have almost all of the symptoms of hypothyroidism...yet > my blood tests aren't showing a problem <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=grphealth /S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=442461247> * Hi and welcome..this happened to my husband. Turns out he is positive for thyroid antibodies, which means he has hashimotos..if you have this..all blood tests now and in the future are invalid. * * Did you have an antibodies test yet? * * nne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Hi there Bethany. You've gotten some excellent replies, and I want to add the following: you need to be prepared that the vast majority of docs out there are not going to do you a great job in either diagnosing your potential hypothyroid, or optimally treating it. Thus, it is quite important to be very informed when you go to a doc. First, the average doc is either going to run a " thyroid panel " or simply the T4 and the TSH. So, the first wise step you can make is insist on getting your FREE T3 and FREE T4. The free's test what is available and unbound. With the free's, you are getting " totals " , and totals do not reflect what your body is able to use. The T4 is a storage hormone which converts to T3, which is the active hormone. You can have a great-looking T4, and a pitiful T3. For a doc to diagnose you by your T4, whether total or free, is inadequate and has left perhaps millions of folks out there undiagnosed and untreated. A next wise step you can make, if you do confirm you are hypothyroid, is to insist on taking Armour. Most docs will try to put you on a T4-only med like Synthroid. Sure, it will lower your TSH, and it will give you back some health. But it will not give you the optimal treatment that Armour will. Armour contains the exact same substances that your own thyroid would be giving you--T4, T3, T2, T1 and calcitonin, the latter which keeps the calcium in your bones. If Synthroid and other T4-only meds were that great, there would not be forums like this filled and growing with folks whose lives have turned around due to treatment with natural thyroid like Armour. As already stated, if you are hypothyroid, you will need a good thyroid treatment like Armour. There's nothing wrong with herbs and such. But they will not do the job. In the LINKS section, you will find places to search for a good doc. Be careful, though, of Shoman's Top Doc lists. It allows ANY docs to be recommended, and that doesn't mean that the doc prescribes Armour or tests the frees. Read them carefully. Or...you can do the ARMOUR LOCATE-A-DOC. That can at least get you to a doc who prescribes Armour! A good start! And....you can go to your local large pharmacy and ask the pharmacist (not the techs) who prescribes Armour in your area. By the way, some of us drive great lengths to have a good doc-- I drive almost 1 1/2 hrs, for example. As far as self-treating, yes you can do it successfully. Several do it here because they couldn't find a good doc, or, even if they had a good one, they couldn't convince the doc to prescribe ENOUGH. But if you are uncomfortable with that, it's fine. Also, check out all the info in the FILES section of this site. If you can, take time to read, read. Your best care comes from YOUR knowledge, not just the docs. (And in the field of thyroid, it is IMPORTANT for you to be knowledgeable in light of docs who are SO unknowledgable about thyroid.) We are excited for you that you can avoid all the anguish, misery and poor treatment that we had to go through when being treated for our thyroids with T4-only meds. You can start out right, and we are very excited for you!! Janie > How do you get a hold of it? Is it safe to try these things even > without a diagnosis or knowing 100% that this is what I think it > is? The holistic dr I was thinking of going to works with natural > supplements that have not only vitamins and stuff, but herbs and > different things, too. > > Bethany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Well many here have had WORSE luck with endos..have you looked at the top doc list to see if anyone is in your area? nne _____ From: Bethany e Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 12:05 PM To: NaturalThyroidHormones Subject: RE: newbie * I really have no idea, hadn't heard about antibodies yet. I can see I should definately seek out an endo instead of sticking with a regular dr. Bethany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 http://thyroid.about.com/cs/doctors/a/topdocs.htm Look here _____ From: Bethany e Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 1:43 PM To: NaturalThyroidHormones Subject: RE: newbie No, I will do that. I guess it's on the main group site? Bethany nne Skoog wrote: Well many here have had WORSE luck with endos..have you looked at the top doc list to see if anyone is in your area? nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Hi everyone, I'm glad I found this site, I am in need of support. I have had vulvodynia/vestibulitis since 1999. I was misdiagnosed for a while, after getting an infection and being treated with metrogel, my symptoms of pain persisted. I have finally decided to really take action. I found a specialist in pelvic floor disorders, started estrace nightly, started relaxation meditations and using a dilator while working with a physical therapist. I have hope that I will reduce my pain. It's really not *that* bad but it is a constant nagging presence in my life, and since I'm single, it really sucks. I didn't realize until now that I have a lot of muscle tightness internally - I always just felt the raw burning of the exterior and never considered the internal component. Anyway, it's a little overwhelming to come into this group because everyone is in the midst of so many different conversations, but I hope to weed through some of the old posts and maybe find some solace from people with my similar experience. Thanks for being here, it's nice to have people who understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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