Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 How do you go about getting an IEP for your child. I met with the guidance counselor at my daughter's school and was told she wasn't a candidate for this - in the 2 classes she bothers to go to she's getting A's - just doesn't bother going to the other 2 - so because she's academically capable she's not qualified. They did say that she might qualify for a section 504 (under SSA I think) - has anybody heard of the 504? And, does this sound like the school might have misinformed me about the IEP? Should I be fighting for this? " Fritz (Contr) " wrote: In land where we live the petition we sought was called a CINS (Child in Need of Supervision) petition. It has more to do with your ability to control your child (and protect her from herself or protect your family) than your income. They may not care about your medical bills, but they will care that a minor is out of control. That is why calling the police for every " runaway " situation is so important. Our daughter is a ward of DSS now, but they have been very liberal in involving us with placement, treatment etc. I don't think I could have done this when she was 14 or even 16, but by the time she was 17 I was willing to do about anything to get her out of the house and away from my younger children. It is awful when you think of it-surrendering your child to DSS, but somehow it seemed less awful than watching her die on the streets (she was a prostitute) or endangering our family with her gang member " friends " .. We did start out with the school system-that is what the IEP was for. But they start in the least restrictive environment and then move up to residential treatment if the child fails in the current placing. Our daughter never got to start on the IEP because she blew apart over the summer before school started. I think eventially she would have ended up in the same place (residential) through the school, but it would have taken much longer. In land if the kid has an EIP before age 18 the state is obligated to give a high school education, or at least try, until the child is age 21. You might want to see if your state is like that too. Pat At 09:28 AM 10/8/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Can you explain the DSS better? Is this giving your child up to Dept. of >child and family services? I have also heard that you can get residential >placement by petitioning your school district to pay, then filing for SSI >and a care grant for the tuition. We're not there yet, but I'm not ruling >anything out. > >I did start the process of applying for SSI, but I was told on the phone >that it's only for low income and we wouldn't qualify. Should I go >through with the application or give up? Her medl bills are what's >stressing our family, but the dept for SSI said they don't take anything >like that into account. > > " Fritz (Contr) " wrote: > Yes, DSS is Department of Social Services. We are not low income, have >insurance etc, so I was sort of surprised they helped us too. But we did >have documentation on everything we did to try to help this child from age >7-therapy, 2 years of residential treatment that we footed the bill for, >the school's IEP (individual educational plan) that described her as >emotionally disturbed. As she got older the issues got worse and it became >very obvious (IF you kept records) that this was not just a defiant >teen. Involving authorities is really important, even when you feel kind >of silly. So that means the ER for threats of suicide, police when they >break curfew or get destructive. It is not a fun way to live but I have 2 >younger girls (age 11 and 13) that must be protected, and that was my >motivating force. > >We were turned away by DSS several times, but on one visit just lucked out >and got someone who could help us. Keep trying-it may be your child's only >hope and your only salvation. I know how frustrating and exhausting it is, >but when someone actually listens to you and helps the relief is >tremendous. By the way-I think we will be paying some sort of child >support to DSS, but I think that is certainly reasonable since we are not >on public assistance. If you can, get her under DSS before she is 18-after >that I think it gets much harder. > >Good luck, Pat > >At 07:36 AM 10/8/2004 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi Pat - thanks for your response. What is DSS - dept of social > >services? Do you have to be low income for them to help - that's where > >I'm running into problems - if I have private insurance and am not on > >public assistance nobody seems to be able to do anything. > > > > " Fritz (Contr) " wrote:We did this exact > >same thing with our 17 year old daughter, and although it > >didn't stop her behavior it did get us out of the middle. Also by letting > >the police handle it a record is built up that later let us get HELP from > >DSS-when before we could never get their attention. The police don't like > >responding repeatedly to calls like this, and action will be taken. Right > >now our daughter is in a residential treatment facility under the care (and > >expense) of DSS. We never could have gotten her into it ourselves, and > >best of all they will work her out gradually into an independent living > >situation, something else we couldn't do. It is sad to place your child > >under DSS, but especially at her age (18 in March) it became her last > >chance at help before being on her own. > > > >Good luck, > >Pat > > > >At 08:05 PM 10/6/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > > >Diane: Our daughter used to say " f you " and walk out when grounded . . > > >etc. We put a stop to it by telling her that if she's out past her curfew > > >(9:30 on school nights, 11 on wkends), we will report her as a > > >runaway. I've spoken to the police and it's true, you CAN report a minor > > >as a runaway if they are gone and you didn't give expressed consent for > > >her to go. It has worked like a charm. In addition, when she gets > > >violent w/ us or throws objects, I call 911. They've been here 3x. on > > >the 3rd time, they took her in handcuffs, arrested her for battery (she > > >just hit her dad in the back, no marks), and finger printed her. NONE of > > >this has reoccurred since we've started using the police as a > > > " threat. " Also, I've asked the police about locking the doors . . you > > >can't do this as it's considered a " lock-out " situation. If it's reported > > >and your child is under 17, I believe, you will be reported to DCFS for > > >neglect. > > > > > >Hope this helps! > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 If they're telling you she qualifies for the 504 plan, my guess is you probably won't have to fight. Here's some information on it: http://www.adprima.com/specialed.htm The school may not know any better. Meredith Re: IEP's How do you go about getting an IEP for your child. I met with the guidance counselor at my daughter's school and was told she wasn't a candidate for this - in the 2 classes she bothers to go to she's getting A's - just doesn't bother going to the other 2 - so because she's academically capable she's not qualified. They did say that she might qualify for a section 504 (under SSA I think) - has anybody heard of the 504? And, does this sound like the school might have misinformed me about the IEP? Should I be fighting for this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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