When Should I add in ALA, now?

[Guest guest]

I have done 2 rather long sessions of first DMSA (around 10 mg every

2.5 hours), and then DMPS (10 mg every 4 hours)and I am wondering

when I should add in the ALA. I don't have amalgams in and I think I

was exposed many years ago during a research internship where I

worked with mercury as well as lead exposure while I was fixing up

an old boat with leaded-paint. I have read in some posts by Andy

that he thinks that people do better when they add in ALA earlier

and dont wait for such a long time. Is 2 rounds of long enough or am

I being impatient? I have seen some real improvement during each

chelation cycle and then towards the end of the cycle feel pretty

terrible, especially after I totally stop. A very small amount of

the improvement does seem to come back after a few days off though.

When I do add in the ALA I will do 10mg ALA, and 5mg DMPS every 3

hours. Is this a good ratio?

What differences have you all found when first adding in the ALA?

Advice would be greatly appreciated,

~

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

>

> I have done 2 rather long sessions of first DMSA (around 10 mg

every

> 2.5 hours), and then DMPS (10 mg every 4 hours)and I am wondering

> when I should add in the ALA.

--- Below you say you are having significant side effects after so I

would continue with what you are doing for awhile until the side

effects become less [jmo]. Then think about upping the dosage of

what you are using, 10 mg of either one is a small amount and I would

increase this first as a trial to see how you do. Don't go crazy

increasing the dosage, maybe 20mg.

> I being impatient?

--- Yes, most people have this tendancy because they want to get

well. A lot of problems arise as people get impatient and try to

push things too fast, two rounds is nothing compared to the months

and years others have been working on Hg chelation and that you may

be. The trade off of increased damage and side effects from trying

to push it faster than can be tollerated is not worth it

I have seen some real improvement during each

> chelation cycle and then towards the end of the cycle feel pretty

> terrible, especially after I totally stop.

--- This is common, but I think this also indicates you are moving a

fair amount of body Hg with this small dosage. With this in mind I

would wait until you can take larger doses without a lot of

redistribution side effects [jmo].

A very small amount of

> the improvement does seem to come back after a few days off though.

--- Good sign it is working.

>

>

> When I do add in the ALA

--- [jmo] After a few months or when you can take larger doses with

less side effects. ALA usually increases the side effects.

I will do 10mg ALA, and 5mg DMPS every 3

> hours. Is this a good ratio?

--- This will vary somewhat between individuals but I use a 2-1 ratio

of ALA to DMPS - [50mg ALA to 20mg DMPS].

>

> What differences have you all found when first adding in the ALA?

--- For me much more side effects during and after a round initially,

then just after the round.

TK

[Guest guest]

>I have read in some posts by Andy

> that he thinks that people do better when they add in ALA earlier

> and dont wait for such a long time

I think that it is hard to take things that Andy says in some cases

and apply them directly to our own situation. So much depends on the

person's circumstances.

I agree with what TK has said in response to your post.

I am in a similiar position in that I have done 2 rounds of 25 mg

DMSA. The only side effects I have is fatigue and weepiness (not

unusual for me) at the end of the round. I have decided to stay with

25 mg DMSA and then gradually increase the DMSA. Not sure exactly

when I will add ALA.

The biggest problem I have is waking for the 4 am dose. When I add

ALA I am going to have to wake up more often.

>

> I have done 2 rather long sessions of first DMSA (around 10 mg every

> 2.5 hours), and then DMPS (10 mg every 4 hours)and I am wondering

> when I should add in the ALA. I don't have amalgams in and I think I

> was exposed many years ago during a research internship where I

> worked with mercury as well as lead exposure while I was fixing up

> an old boat with leaded-paint. I have read in some posts by Andy

> that he thinks that people do better when they add in ALA earlier

> and dont wait for such a long time. Is 2 rounds of long enough or am

> I being impatient? I have seen some real improvement during each

> chelation cycle and then towards the end of the cycle feel pretty

> terrible, especially after I totally stop. A very small amount of

> the improvement does seem to come back after a few days off though.

>

>

> When I do add in the ALA I will do 10mg ALA, and 5mg DMPS every 3

> hours. Is this a good ratio?

>

> What differences have you all found when first adding in the ALA?

>

> Advice would be greatly appreciated,

>

> ~

[Guest guest]

Tk,

when you say,

--- This will vary somewhat between individuals but I use a 2-1 ratio

of ALA to DMPS - [50mg ALA to 20mg DMPS].

how often are taking the DMPS 3,4, or 8 hours apart?

Also did you mean 40mg ala to 20mg Dmps? Or am I missing something

By the way how many rounds are you at now? and How much improvement

have you seen?

Thanks for the reply,

~

[Guest guest]

will ala alone also remove the " body burden " ?

[Guest guest]

>

> Tk,

>

> when you say,

>

> --- This will vary somewhat between individuals but I use a 2-1

ratio

> of ALA to DMPS - [50mg ALA to 20mg DMPS].

>

> how often are taking the DMPS 3,4, or 8 hours apart?

--- I take the DMPS with the ALA every 3 hours.

>

> Also did you mean 40mg ala to 20mg Dmps? Or am I missing something

--- Two to one or approximate as ALA unless you buy it custom comes

in 25,50,100,200mg capsules. The 20mg DMPS works fine for me

currently, if it didn't I would adjust it's dosage as it is

prescription and I can get it in any mg capsule I need. It is very

expensive so I try to use what I need to prevent side effects and

redistribution and not more. My body burden is very low now and it

is the Brain Hg that I am trying to remove. If I had more body

burden as I did in the past I would probably use a one to one ratio

[DMPS 25mg/ALA 25mg - or 50mg/50mg] as I have in the past.

>

> By the way how many rounds are you at now?

--- I do not know, I have never kept track. My ability to chelate

has been regulated to when I could get DMPS which was difficult until

this month so it has been intermittant over the last two years. I

also have some work injuries [i believe because of the Hg] that I

have had to have major surgery for which stopped any chelation for

months at a time and screwed other things up.

and How much improvement

> have you seen?

--- I have seen tremendous improvement [for me] at times just doesn't

seem to hold but the last 6 day round seemed to help a lot again. My

Hg tests were all very high [higher than most people] and my Hg came

from industrial work exposure so I do not know how much damage was

done and how much progress I can make.

TK