Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Having had an EARLY hysterectomy, I can tell you exactly the symptoms to look for that tell you it is time for some help. Some of the symptoms you mention are there. Crying all the time for no apparent reason, or any stupid thing, temper flares, again over nothing. Hot flashes and night sweats, leaking urine every time you cough, walk fast or sneeze. I took Premarin for years till I had so many problems from it I had to find something else to relieve these symptoms. The Progesterone cream has completely replaced the estrogen supplements I used to HAVE to take for my sanity. And the symptoms of estrogen dominance have slowly abated. I no longer swell or have high blood pressure. I do still have some night sweats and hot flashes, but that is all and they are not as often... usually when I haven't used the cream for a while. Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Thanks, Janie, that's all good to know. I know that I used to have that article on estrogen dominance that (was it ?) sends around, but now I can't find it. I don't think I'm meno but I could definitely be perimenopausal. Heck, I don't know. I think taking thyroid hormones screws up my other hormones. I think it always has. Does anybody get tested for estrogen and progesterone levels before they start supplementing? I'm on DHEA and that may increase my estrogen and testosterone but I just don't know enough about it. I also have an estrogen cream that may help my interstitial cystitis but I'm always forgetting to use it. I guess I'll have to add Dr. Lee's book to my list. I have 4 or 5 others at home that I need to read but thanks for the suggestion! > > Personally, I found myself wanting to opt for nothing unless I was > having a terrible time going through meno, or if I had a history of > bone loss associated with it. But..when I read Lee's book about > progesterone, I was impressed. > > You've got Larrian Gillespie touting the positives of taking > Oestragel...then you have Lee touting the positives of natural > progesterone. I read what both had to say....and felt that natural > progesterone was what I wanted to do, and am doing. Low dose. > > BUT...I am no expert and have only been on the progesterone for about > 3 months. I still have problems with estrogen dominance at times-- but > am still figuring that out with Menoqueen. > > Janie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Hi, , But aren't those all symptoms of falling estrogen levels (i.e. entering menopause?) So, does the progesterone cream promote estrogen activity too? Has it helped you with some of your symptoms? I don't think I've had any hot flashes, but sometimes I wake up in the morning feeling really warm ... Thanks. > Having had an EARLY hysterectomy, I can tell you exactly the symptoms to look for that tell you it is time for some help. Some of the symptoms you mention are there. Crying all the time for no apparent reason, or any stupid thing, temper flares, again over nothing. Hot flashes and night sweats, leaking urine every time you cough, walk fast or sneeze. I took Premarin for years till I had so many problems from it I had to find something else to relieve these symptoms. The Progesterone cream has completely replaced the estrogen supplements I used to HAVE to take for my sanity. And the symptoms of estrogen dominance have slowly abated. I no longer swell or have high blood pressure. I do still have some night sweats and hot flashes, but that is all and they are not as often... usually when I haven't used the cream for a while. > > Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 The progesterone cream has completely eliminated the symptoms. What they used to tell us was low estrogen probably was also low progesterone as well! As I have no uterus or ovaries and haven't had for 22 years, I can tell you that most women with hysterectomies need SOMETHING to get through menopause, but if I knew then what I know now, I would try the Progesterone cream first before even trying estrogen! Back when I had my hyst, they gave you an estrogen injection before you even woke up as at the young age of 27 it really throws your body into a fit when you all of a sudden have none coming in. Then three months after the surgery, I had cysts come back again! Had to have another wide open abdominal surgery and scrape the abdominal walls to make sure they got all the cystic material. Then I had to go off all hormones for 6 months to make sure anything left over died off... That was some of the most miserable months of my life! I almost KILLED my boyfriend! LOL He left... That was when I realized all the " love " I had been thinking was real was actually only LUST! LOL When the lust left, my life changed for the better! No amount of bottled hormone has brought it back either. But then I don;t WANT it back! I am much happier living alone than I ever was with a man. Oh dear, this I am sure is alot more than you wanted to know, but it is only fair to tell you about this other side of hormones and what they really do to us women! Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 >The Progesterone cream has completely replaced the estrogen >supplements I used to HAVE to take for my sanity. And the symptoms >of estrogen dominance have slowly abated. I no longer swell or have >high blood pressure. I do still have some night sweats and hot >flashes, but that is all and they are not as often... usually when I >haven't used the cream for a while. Though I didn't start this thread, this is exactly what I needed to read!! I am told that the estrogen dominance I am experiencing two weeks out of every month will also subside the longer I am on progesterone cream. And I am always impressed with the interaction between progesterone and thyroid. Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I was tested for progesterone, LH, Growth Hormone, Estrogen, testosterone and free testosterone first Jamy Patient Advocate/Board Member American Thyroid Patients Website:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Thyroid_Groups/ Re: --How do you know Thanks, Janie, that's all good to know. I know that I used to have that article on estrogen dominance that (was it ?) sends around, but now I can't find it. I don't think I'm meno but I could definitely be perimenopausal. Heck, I don't know. I think taking thyroid hormones screws up my other hormones. I think it always has. Does anybody get tested for estrogen and progesterone levels before they start supplementing? I'm on DHEA and that may increase my estrogen and testosterone but I just don't know enough about it. I also have an estrogen cream that may help my interstitial cystitis but I'm always forgetting to use it. I guess I'll have to add Dr. Lee's book to my list. I have 4 or 5 others at home that I need to read but thanks for the suggestion! > > Personally, I found myself wanting to opt for nothing unless I was > having a terrible time going through meno, or if I had a history of > bone loss associated with it. But..when I read Lee's book about > progesterone, I was impressed. > > You've got Larrian Gillespie touting the positives of taking > Oestragel...then you have Lee touting the positives of natural > progesterone. I read what both had to say....and felt that natural > progesterone was what I wanted to do, and am doing. Low dose. > > BUT...I am no expert and have only been on the progesterone for about > 3 months. I still have problems with estrogen dominance at times-- but > am still figuring that out with Menoqueen. > > Janie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I am using the Osteogel and about 1/4 to 1/2 stick a day. When I take too little, I get hot flashes or incontinence not when I take too much Jamy Patient Advocate/Board Member American Thyroid Patients Website:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Thyroid_Groups/ Re: --How do you know Having had an EARLY hysterectomy, I can tell you exactly the symptoms to look for that tell you it is time for some help. Some of the symptoms you mention are there. Crying all the time for no apparent reason, or any stupid thing, temper flares, again over nothing. Hot flashes and night sweats, leaking urine every time you cough, walk fast or sneeze. I took Premarin for years till I had so many problems from it I had to find something else to relieve these symptoms. The Progesterone cream has completely replaced the estrogen supplements I used to HAVE to take for my sanity. And the symptoms of estrogen dominance have slowly abated. I no longer swell or have high blood pressure. I do still have some night sweats and hot flashes, but that is all and they are not as often... usually when I haven't used the cream for a while. Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 when I started first on bi-est and now Osterogel and testosterone, I was according to all the tests from 2 different DR's below any menopause level even though I was still getting my period. I was also sick with ferritin, aldosterone and thyroid issues. I said, replace everything that is needed. I need to start from well, then decide what I want to stop. The hormones are so entwined with the way we feel and as undermedicated thyroid people, I think low female hormones make people take steroids and other things thinking that is what is lacking. Now that I feel better, I have decided I want to continue the female hormones till I get the weight off. Then I will stop. --How do you know Hi . You know, many many women--my mother-in-law included, went through meno and never, ever got on female hormones. She's now 86 and has no problems. When you read about the creation of female hormonal products, you find out that docs and pharmaceuticals made it sound like meno and the lowering of female hormones was a SICKNESS!! Thus, the push for hormonal replacement therapies, and money in the pockets once again for the pharmaceuticals. Personally, I found myself wanting to opt for nothing unless I was having a terrible time going through meno, or if I had a history of bone loss associated with it. But..when I read Lee's book about progesterone, I was impressed. You've got Larrian Gillespie touting the positives of taking Oestragel...then you have Lee touting the positives of natural progesterone. I read what both had to say....and felt that natural progesterone was what I wanted to do, and am doing. Low dose. BUT...I am no expert and have only been on the progesterone for about 3 months. I still have problems with estrogen dominance at times--but am still figuring that out with Menoqueen. Janie : > How do you know it's a good time to start a progesterone cream or > pill? What are the symptoms which would indicate a need for > progesterone? Ever since I've started Armour I haven't had a > period. Spotting yes (12 days last month), pms YES, irritable yes, > crying a lot, uh-huh, but no period. Would progesterone help? > Thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Wow, , it sounds like you've really been through it! I remember my Mom having a terrible time for a year or more after her hysterectomy. As far as I know, she didn't have any estrogen progesterone, or anything to help her out. I'm sorry to hear what you had to go through also, but glad you're doing great with the progesterone cream now! I think what I'll do is read Dr. Lee's book (can someone tell me which one I should read, aren't there two?) and talk to my doctor about it next time I see him. I just hate this protracted pms-ish feeling. It's like my period WANTS to start but won't. Argh! Thanks, everybody. > The progesterone cream has completely eliminated the symptoms. What they used to tell us was low estrogen probably was also low progesterone as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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