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Lynn, are you on the meta-mito-autism board at all? I'm

wondering about that possibility... also the role of viruses and/or

any seizure activity that has gone undetected. Has he ever been

checked for Landau Kleffner Syndrome? Some autistics do have LKS,

too.

W

> > I'm wondering if there is a better list that I don't know of for

> someone like me? My son is almost 4, non-verbal, recovering from

> autism with some traits still present. He's blind with LCA,

although

> he doesn't really fit on that list either because he is regaining

> some vision and his genetics results are a mystery to the

> geneticists dealing with that disease.

>

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I'll look into that group . Thanks so much. We were diagnosed as

having a stealth virus, but... the stealth virus group wasn't very

accepting of his dx because it wasn't by the ONE dr in the US that

is dxing them but by one in the Netherlands. Anyway, it's all so

crazy. You have been very helpful.

Lynn

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Hi Lynn,

About a week or so ago I read through the posts and felt out of

place too -so don't feel so bad! You're always welcome here Lynn,

and I'm glad you are here.

I wouldn't know how to help you with the oil formula you are on now

since in most of the cases I know higher Omega 6 didn't work -and in

most cases the children only needed a small amount of the Omega 6.

Also in most cases it was around a 5:1 ratio that worked with the

Omega 3 being over the Omega 6 -preferably with the EPA higher than

the DHA. In some cases even a 6 or 7:1 ratio with the Omega 3 being

higher (when the EPA is what is higher)

You are using a completely different formula with the 2:1 ratio with the O6

being higher.

Can you send us exactly what dosage and formula you are using

currently?

I'm only questioning because I know that Austin initially had

amazing surges on the basic one capsule formula of the ProEFA, not

just with his speech, but his circles under his eyes which is

characteristic of his eye condition. From my recall, when Austin

hit that plateau or soon after was when you began other nutritional

interventions (and I questioned if you were using higher CLO which

you reported you were using) I do agree with you search for higher

EPA -and that the GLA is still important, but I'm not sure if I

recall why the jump to the GLA being so high. I'm just wondering

about/suggesting trying to go back to where you started Austin since

it was working then, and that's what worked for most of our

children -and taking it from there since there is much more we know

about where to go from that one capsule of the ProEFA formula and

dosage.

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Hmmm...

Everything I was reading on Omegas indicated that the balance needed

to be closer, so I'm wrong?

Actually Austin's surge started with Efalex. We switched to ProEFA

and it stayed the same. Cod liver oil wasn't added until last year

around this time and never before that. The other nutrional

interventions started months after the loss occurred. His loss

occurred after 2 1/2 wks of omega 3, I had upped him to 2 i think?

He was highly nutrionally deficient at the time living on dead

foods, such as vanilla custard- his mainstay. Never ate meats or

vegetables and lived on casein and glutens. We did the fish oil in

May 2002, by mid June he was still more awake, but no more speech

again. In July 2002 he appeared to have seizures one day, but when

we placed him in the car to go to the ER, he was normal and happy

again. (Appears to have been related to chlorine in the pool he'd

been in and injesting some- intestinal) He had chronic constipation

when all this was going on with occassional bouts of diarrhea

lasting a few days, then back into constipation. Fish oil has been

in his diet since May 2002.

What I'm currently doing is- He is eating organic meats, veggies,

some potatoes, rice and beans. We alternate his meals so that he

doesn't eat a lot of the same thing or repeat for 3 days. He

occassionally gets health food cereals with little sugar in them. He

can't have glutens, casein or soy. This is proving in testing and

he's officially diagnosed with celiacs disease. We hope that when

his intestines heal he will once again be able to eat these foods.

He gets some snack foods like chips, but limited amounts. He loves

his healthy foods and look incredibly good. So, my thoughts were

that he may not be getting enough of the 6 fats. Maybe he is though?

Without the grains he doesn't get the 3's in his natural diet unless

he eats fish, which he gets a little of. Giving his diet do you

still feel he doesn't need added 6 fats? I bought the ProEPA

capsules at the health food store the other day and am giving him

ONE. He is also getting ONE borage capsule. Is this too much of the

6's?

My research time is limited right now and all i'm finding when i do

research is the closer ratio match of 2:1, with highest being 5:1.

The only thing after that is where to buy the oils, not much on how

to balance it. I'm the main therapist for him now and we need to

play most of the day to teach him how to play like a normal child.

He's doing well, his receptive vocabulary is great and his signing

is really coming along. We have communication, but no speech. I just

think it's too odd he had that initial reaction and now nada. He

does say words here and there when not expected.

Thanks for anyones input!

Lynn

> Hi Lynn,

>

> About a week or so ago I read through the posts and felt out of

> place too -so don't feel so bad! You're always welcome here

Lynn,

> and I'm glad you are here.

>

> I wouldn't know how to help you with the oil formula you are on

now

> since in most of the cases I know higher Omega 6 didn't work -and

in

> most cases the children only needed a small amount of the Omega

6.

> Also in most cases it was around a 5:1 ratio that worked with the

> Omega 3 being over the Omega 6 -preferably with the EPA higher

than

> the DHA. In some cases even a 6 or 7:1 ratio with the Omega 3

being

> higher (when the EPA is what is higher)

> You are using a completely different formula with the 2:1 ratio

with the O6 being higher.

>

> Can you send us exactly what dosage and formula you are using

> currently?

>

> I'm only questioning because I know that Austin initially had

> amazing surges on the basic one capsule formula of the ProEFA, not

> just with his speech, but his circles under his eyes which is

> characteristic of his eye condition. From my recall, when Austin

> hit that plateau or soon after was when you began other

nutritional

> interventions (and I questioned if you were using higher CLO which

> you reported you were using) I do agree with you search for

higher

> EPA -and that the GLA is still important, but I'm not sure if I

> recall why the jump to the GLA being so high. I'm just wondering

> about/suggesting trying to go back to where you started Austin

since

> it was working then, and that's what worked for most of our

> children -and taking it from there since there is much more we

know

> about where to go from that one capsule of the ProEFA formula and

> dosage.

>

> =====

>

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