Please can somebody help with my bloods

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In a message dated 7/28/2004 2:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sheila.turner@... writes:

> Personally, I think that 5 grains of Armour could be too much -and I would

> be tempted to cut it back down to 4 1/2 grains and see how you get on.. You

> are WAY over the top of the normal range and your blood

>

I think i disagree with this statement somewhat. I've been wondering if

folks shouldn't be taking more than they usually take. Not to mention the fact

that I don't trust ranges to be any more accurate on the Free labs than the TSH

labs....but back before there were labs, folks usually took much higher

dosages of Armour.

And the estimates I see are that 4 grains of Armour is the estimate of the

usual thyroid hormone output.

I think one of the most interesting things I read that stuck with me is that

to find out one's optimal dose...one has to take enough to have some hyper

symptoms....and then drop back the dosage. I'm at 4 grains...and have never had

any hyper symptoms. Sorta makes me wonder how much better i might could feel

with additional Armour.

Cindi

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In a message dated 7/28/2004 2:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sheila.turner@... writes:

> ~Does anyone know whether weight has anything to do with the amount of

> Armour a body needs I'm not sure

I think this would make sense. Even the synthetic dosages are supposed to

initially be based on weight. It sorta makes sense a larger body might need a

larger amount of thyroid hormone.

cindi

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In a message dated 7/28/2004 3:04:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

feemccormick@... writes:

> I just spoke to Dr Skinner & I don't quote him well here, but he said

> something about when you're feeling better being able to cut back

> your dose.

This is interesting too. Knowing that I went untreated for over a decade or

more....I've often had the feeling that my body needed a higher dose initially

just to do its " healing " of the tissues. It would make sense that after some

of that is done...one might could drop their dosage down a bit.

cindi

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Hi Fee - definitely long time no see!!

It is a problem when we are supposed to go by blood results and other's tell us

we should go by

how we feel!. You feel great - your bloods say otherwise. What a shame that

these biochemists don't do everybody's bloods when you are 18, so that when such

things as this happen - they just might find that this is your normal range

after all after all.

Personally, I think that 5 grains of Armour could be too much -and I would be

tempted to cut it back down to 4 1/2 grains and see how you get on.. You are WAY

over the top of the normal range and your blood

People generally seem to believe that if things are not quite right, then they

should just up the dose. Often they should be lowering it. What do others

think? - you might be feeling OK now, but watch out for little problems

appearing. ~Does anyone know whether weight has anything to do with the amount

of Armour a body needs I'm not sure. Do you have a problem with excess weight

Fee ? - I mean really excess here!

Luv - Sheila

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: Subject: please can someone help with my bloods?

:

: Hello All,

: How is everyone?

: Sorry I've not posted for a while I've been chocca busy with work.

: If anybody could advise me I'd be really grateful as much has changed

: with my situation...

: I'm currently on 5 grains of Armour (I made the switch from synthetic

: in 2003). I feel good and am showing no signs of toxicity in terms

: of body temperature or raised pulse or anything.

: However, I just had some bloods taken and...

: my Free T3 is 15 (range 2.1 - 6)

: my Free T4 is 33.2 (range 11.5 - 23)

: What do you think of these results or blood tests in general?

: I had these done by a private company, so my doc won't be able to get

: hold of them unless I give them to him.

: What do you think I should do? I feel loads better and am worried

: about reducing and feeling tired again. But, I'm also trying to

: become pregnant and obviously don't want to jeapordise that.

: Any advice you give would be most welcome,

: many thanks, Fee xxxxxxxxxx

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Hi Sheila & Cindi,

I just spoke to Dr Skinner & I don't quote him well here, but he said

something about when you're feeling better being able to cut back

your dose. I am going to drop back to 4.5 for a month and see what

happens as he suggested. I feel I have to get this right as I think

it is the key to me being able to become pregnant.

And in answer to your question lovely long-time-no-see Sheila, I am

thin and luckily always have been, so that can't be the issue...

Hmmm. I just hope I won't lose energy.

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I think some could have an absorption issue, especially if you swallow

or chew it. Even taking sublingually, it sometimes takes 2 hours for

mine to disolve and some just seem to ooze down my throat regardless.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

PS I must admit the thought of going over when not under a docs care

frightens me a bit.

Re: Please can somebody help with my

bloods

In a message dated 7/28/2004 2:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

sheila.turner@... writes:

> Personally, I think that 5 grains of Armour could be too much -and I

would

> be tempted to cut it back down to 4 1/2 grains and see how you get

on.. You

> are WAY over the top of the normal range and your blood

>

I think i disagree with this statement somewhat. I've been wondering if

folks shouldn't be taking more than they usually take. Not to mention

the fact

that I don't trust ranges to be any more accurate on the Free labs than

the TSH

labs....but back before there were labs, folks usually took much higher

dosages of Armour.

And the estimates I see are that 4 grains of Armour is the estimate of

the

usual thyroid hormone output.

I think one of the most interesting things I read that stuck with me is

that

to find out one's optimal dose...one has to take enough to have some

hyper

symptoms....and then drop back the dosage. I'm at 4 grains...and have

never had

any hyper symptoms. Sorta makes me wonder how much better i might could

feel

with additional Armour.

Cindi

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> In a message dated 7/28/2004 2:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> sheila.turner@l... writes:

>

> > ~Does anyone know whether weight has anything to do with the

amount of

> > Armour a body needs I'm not sure

>

> I think this would make sense. Even the synthetic dosages are

supposed to

> initially be based on weight. It sorta makes sense a larger body

might need a

> larger amount of thyroid hormone.

> cindi

I have heard that, at least at first, someone heavier needs more

Amour and someone with longstanding hypo needs more. Something

someone said recently on another list is that thyroid hormones do not

pass from the mother into the fetus, BUT - if the mother is

hypothyroid, her body will take the thyroid hormones she needs from

the fetus.