Re: my doctor apt. this morning

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In a message dated 6/23/2004 10:36:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

cris@... writes:

> . She runs potassium and some other things, which she says will show an

> indication of a problem. If

Only if you're about dead with 's I think...I think overall....adrenal

fatigue just does not show up in labs.

Cindi

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In a message dated 6/23/2004 10:36:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

cris@... writes:

> So even if she does dose by TSH, she's reasonable with it.

No Chris...I know you like her...and I like my endo too..but when they do

this...they ARE WRONG....so be prepared. It is us allowing this type of

doctoring that has kept us so sick. I'm sure their intentions are good....but

if they

don't treat our symptoms....and instead treat our labs....they are not doing

right by us. I really don't mean to be harsh...and I do think you're on the

right track...but if you get to a TSH of 1.0 and you still have

symptoms....the heck with the TSH. Many, many women only feel better when that

TSH is

totally suppressed.

On the DHEA....one of the best reasons for testing that is that a low DHEA

indicates low adrenal reserve.

Cindi

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In a message dated 6/23/2004 5:27:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cubfan23@... writes:

> And even if you have an ACTH stim test, the doctors still only look for

> either 's or

> Cushing's. They don't know how to detect adrenal fatigue

ya know...this is a serious problem...and I don't know when the medical

community is gonna wise up.

Cindi

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HI Cris,

My husband says they are not the same thing, so you might be OK. He was on

a beta blocker, and we tried a week long trial dose of Armour, and he was

more tired then ever. We suspected weak adrenals, but after reading Lowes

book, I caught this information, and realized this is what happened. He is

currently addressing the adrenals, and we will begin again with the armour,

and no beta blockers.

nne

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From: cris

Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:05 PM

To: NaturalThyroidHormones

Subject: Re: my doctor apt. this morning

This is what I have - it says it's an 'Ace inhibitor'

I wonder if that is the same as a beta-blocker referred to in Dr. Lowes

book.

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/rxdrugprofiles/drugs/zes1498.shtml

I also take neurontin - not for seizures, but to help calm my nerve endings

to help with pain. It sounds like it could be bad with thyroid meds also -

hmmmmm !!!

Cris

RE: my doctor apt. this morning

Hey Cris.

Page 315-316 from Dr. Lowes book.Many patients take beta-blockers for mild

hypertension. Some of these patients' hypertension is caused by too little

thyroid hormone regulation. For them, a high-enough dose of the proper form

of the thyroid hormone can reduce their blood pressure to normal. If

patients are to benefit from the use of thyroid hormone, they must stop

taking beta-blockers. Otherwise the beta blockers will nullify the effects

for the thyroid hormone on the body. To our amazement, some patients who

with consult us have been taking both beta-blockers and thyroid hormone for

years-both prescribed by the same doctor.

Beta-Blocking Drugs. Beta-blocking drugs impair metabolism by binding to

beta-receptors. Binding of the drugs to the receptors prevents the

nerve-transmitters adrenaline and noradrenalin from binding to the

receptors. When these and other metabolism driving chemicals can't bind to

beta-receptor, cell metabolism slows down. Hyperthyroid patients whose

tissues are over stimulated often use beta-blockers to stop the over

stimulation. The main reason hyperthyroid causes over stimulation is that

the excess thyroid hormone overly increases the density of beta-receptors on

cell membranes. With so many beta-receptors on the membranes, even small

amounts of adrenaline and noradrenalin cause cell metabolism to race. The

effect is much like taking too much caffeine. Because of the way thyroid

hormone works in the body, the beta-blocker is able to stop the over

stimulation.

I will post some other interesting things he says next.

nne

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Hi, ,

This is what the results said:

estradiol 0.9 (low) normal range 1.5-10 (optimal 1.5-3)

progesterone 42 25-100 postmenopausal

ratio pg/e2 47 (low) 200-1000

It said, " Estradiol is low for replacement therapy, but high relative to the

progesterone. The level of the synthetic

progestin cannot be quantitated with the hormone test for progesterone

performed at ZRT. Nevertheless, low

ratio of progesterone /estradiol is consistent with symptoms of estrogen

dominance. Estrogen dominance can

contribute to low thyroid, "

in Va.

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Yeh that IS weird, considering that we would compare low estrogen to

what?-----A " normal " progesterone?-----And then call it estrogen dominance.

The saliva tests have been found to be accurate, not blood tests. And if

estrogen is low, and you're in estrogen dominance, then you COULDN'T have a

normal progesterone.