Re: JAMY--Correcting the LOW IRON is crucial to good thyroid care

[Guest guest]

Nasty emails not allowed!! LOL. But your post is fine. Some folks

need adrenal support; others do not. And some may simply be

mistaking their underlying low Ferritin for adrenal issues. Bottom

line: get your Ferritin tested!!

Janie

>

> People saying it was adrenal when it was really ferritin. THANK

YOU! That is

> what I am seeing and as a person that was given steriods for an

eye issue,

> steriods can make a train wreck feel better! Boy, am I going to

gert nasty

> email for this!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Jamy, Janie and everyone:

Excellent point! But HELP! How can you tell for sure if you're

suffering from adrenal fatigue or low ferritin symptoms? I have

symptoms of both. My last ferritin test was 19. My last cortisol

blood draw was, I believe, 22 with the top number being 25. However,

a few months prior to that I did the saliva test and the cortisol

levels were all low (but still within range). I've been on

hydrocortisone (2.5 mg 3x day) for two weeks and it's killing my

stomach. I felt a little improvement at first but feel as sick as

ever again. Would I do better to drop the adrenal support and try to

get the ferritin level up first? It's SUCH a long process!

Thank you for all your suggestions!

> Nasty emails not allowed!! LOL. But your post is fine. Some folks

> need adrenal support; others do not. And some may simply be

> mistaking their underlying low Ferritin for adrenal issues. Bottom

> line: get your Ferritin tested!!

>

> Janie

> >

> > People saying it was adrenal when it was really ferritin. THANK

> YOU! That is

> > what I am seeing and as a person that was given steriods for an

> eye issue,

> > steriods can make a train wreck feel better! Boy, am I going to

> gert nasty

> > email for this!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Yes, I have been taking the hydrocortisone with breakfast, lunch, and

dinner. ~

> ,

> Are you taking the hydrocortisone with food?

> in Va.

> -----

[Guest guest]

Thank you Jamy,

Your explanation made a lot of sense, and maybe that's what is going

on with me too. I've managed to get the Armour up to 75 mg but I

think this is the limit for now. Maybe being low on ferritin would

explain why the positive effects of the Armour, hydrocortisone, DHEA,

and the B-vitamins only seemed to work for a short while and why I

keep going back to feeling so downright miserable. Does that sound

plausible?

Do you know if there's such a thing as iron shots and if they work

for ferritin levels? I TRY to take a liquid iron supplement but it

kind of irritates my stomach too (but not as much as the pills). I

must make myself try harder in that area. Did you ever experience a

burning feeling in your throat/lungs, shortness of breath type thing

with low ferritin levels?

> I found that with me, the main issue why the thyroid meds weren't

able to go

> up and work was the low ferritin. I flunked every one of those

written

> tests. My acth and cortisol were all low normal. With the ferritin

up, they

> are mid range normal. Low thyroid levels make the adrenals work

harder so

> does having low ferritin make the thyroid meds not be effective

so the

> adrenals work too hard. I liken it to a car has a broken

carburator. You can

> add all kind of additives to make it sound better, but it is still

broken

> and using too much gas, Why not fix the carburator instead of

adding other

> things to make it seem better. The ferritin thing as far as the

effect on

> thyroid med absorbtion and how we feel is pretty new. It worked for

me, for

> Janie, anyone else?????

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, sounds just like me. Did you experience shortness of breath or

sore throat/breathing, anything like that? How about sobbing/crying

a lot??? I thought that was my adrenals being fatigued. How is the

Ferrous Sulfate on the stomach? I've tried a couple different kinds

but they bother me. The liquid is " okay " but it hurts my stomach

sometimes. I'm a hard case ...

Thanks!

> >My last ferritin test was 19.

>

> That is a test that screams to be higher. When mine was that low, I

> ached all over, had palps whenever I tried to raise my Armour, hair

> falling out, fatigue and depression. I got on 325 mg. Ferrous

Sulfate

> twice daily (or you can do three times daily) and got it up to the

> 60's. I STAY on Ferrous Sulfate now, 325 mg. daily. If it was me,

I'd

> correct the Ferritin, and possibly drop the adrenal support.

>

> Janie

>

> Would I do better to drop the adrenal support and try to

> > get the ferritin level up first? It's SUCH a long process!

> >

> > Thank you for all your suggestions!

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> gee, with what my DR had me do, my ferritin went from 20 to over

50 in less

> than 2 1/2 months. Guess i am lucky

What did your DR have you do?

[Guest guest]

Sharon thank you, I'm sure trying. I printed out the note you sent

me on the other list about being patient and Dr. Hertogh's

(spelling?) words and I look at it often, as a reminder to myself

that this is going to be a long process but that people can and DO

get better. But, want to be sure I'm doing the right things on the

way to getting there so I can get there. Can I ask what you did to

bring your ferritin levels up?

Thank you. Have a great day. :-)

>

> Remember it took almost a year to get the ferritin up there.

> Constant questions about increasing the armour. Too much and too

> many adverse symptoms. The adrenal had to be supported. Forward

and

> back. Once the adrenals are better supported and the ferritin gets

> up there, then the armour will work. Takes time.

> Remember, a year for me. Felt better and then slide back. The

slide

> backs are fewer and fewer.

> Hang in there, .

> Sharon

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

> Are you all taking vitamin C or drinking orange juice with your

iron pills? Isn't vitamin C supposed

> to help absorb iron?

> in Va.

>

I do -- I mix a tsp. of liquid iron in a glass of orange juice and

take a 250mg tablet of Vitamin C at the same time.

[Guest guest]

Yes and yes.

> Hi,

> Are you all taking vitamin C or drinking orange juice with your

iron pills? Isn't vitamin C supposed

> to help absorb iron?

> in Va.

[Guest guest]

Hello

Because I've had such heavy menstrual cycles (vinyl underwear 2 days

out of the month) for the last 10 - 15 years I'd be willing to bet I

don't need a test to see if ferritin levels are low. Is this

something (ferrous sulfate) you can take and see how you feel like

most everything else? In many of the posts getting tested first was

mentioned alot which is why I ask. I was the one asking about what

I needed for my dr's appt Monday. Got the Armour and been taking

since Tuesday. Not sure how I feel yet.

Thanx