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Like Wanda, I get bumps from triggering them. Mine are being overheated an=

d using cosmetics/creams with comedogenic ingredients. It sounds like heat =

is a trigger for you, too. There are lots of tricks for cooling down. You =

can try putting a cold pack on the back of your neck when you think you're g=

etting too hot. I've found reusable cold packs for $2.79 at the drugstore. =

You can drink lots of ice water and stay in the shade. If you have to go o=

utside in the sun wear a hat, take a portable fan with you and spray your fa=

ce with cold water.

I don't like to use oral antibiotics because I took a lot of them when I wa=

s a teenager. (I hate the taste of them.) I guess the trade off is being u=

ltra careful with triggers.

Matija

wrote:

original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=5873

> In a message dated 7/1/99 3:57:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> sgyesq@... writes:

>

> << I would be interested in learning from others what success they have h=

ad

> in the treatment of the imflammatory or acne component of rosacea. You g=

uess

> what direction my rosacea headed this summer. I can live with a spotty r=

ed

> face, but not the bumps. Any help would be appreciated. Best regards,

> .

> >>

> Hi ,

> Well, you probably don't want to hear this, but I've concluded that

> nothing is as effective for the bumps as avoiding the triggers that get y=

ou

> there in the first place. I use Noritate on the bumps, which helps some.=

> But it doesn't keep me from getting them if I've done something wrong tha=

t

> gets me into a flare. The most important thing for me is to use products=

on

> my face that are absolutely proven to be gentle for me. Next most import=

ant

> is avoiding my food triggers.

> Wanda

>

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Hi Stepphen,

I too have the bumps. The best thing I've found for both redness and bumps is a

specially compounded cream. It's base is regular old Noritate to which the

pharmacist adds zinc and dimethicone. You should call Pete Heusmann @ College

Pharmacy (a special " compounding " pharmacy that can make most anything per your

doc's prescription) and talk to him. I was able to get my doc to prescribe the

Noritate / zinc / dimethicone stuff, but I forget what exact formula...Pete can

tell you, or you can look at Dr. Nase's old posts to this forum. YOu can reach

Pete @ College Pharmacy @ .

Dawn

<7lfhhl$fg1-egroups> wrote:

original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=5870

> Does anyone know why rosacea expresses itself in bumps? I read somewhere

about " peri-vascular infiltration of white blood cells, " butI do not even know

what this means. I realize that the reddened face is related to dilated blood

vessles in the face, but this does not sound like it explains the bumps.

>

> I would be interested in learning from others what success they have had in

the treatment of the imflammatory or acne component of rosacea. You guess what

direction my rosacea headed this summer. I can live with a spotty red face, but

not the bumps. Any help would be appreciated. Best regards, .

>

>

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Somebody out there please dispute or verify this. I understand that the bum=

ps can be at least partially caused by the irritation and inflamation brough=

t on by the flushing. Is this fact?? Some of you have found your bumps reduc=

ed along w/ your flushing subsequent to photoderm treatments, so it makes se=

nse.

Dawn

<7lggpb$85m-egroups> wrote:

original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=5879

> Like Wanda, I get bumps from triggering them. Mine are being overheated =

and using cosmetics/creams with comedogenic ingredients. It sounds like hea=

t is a trigger for you, too. There are lots of tricks for cooling down. Yo=

u can try putting a cold pack on the back of your neck when you think you're=

getting too hot. I've found reusable cold packs for $2.79 at the drugstore=

.. You can drink lots of ice water and stay in the shade. If you have to go=

outside in the sun wear a hat, take a portable fan with you and spray your =

face with cold water.

>

> I don't like to use oral antibiotics because I took a lot of them when I =

was a teenager. (I hate the taste of them.) I guess the trade off is being=

ultra careful with triggers.

>

> Matija

>

> wrote:

> original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=5873=

> > In a message dated 7/1/99 3:57:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > sgyesq@... writes:

> >

> > << I would be interested in learning from others what success they have=

had

> > in the treatment of the imflammatory or acne component of rosacea. You=

guess

> > what direction my rosacea headed this summer. I can live with a spotty=

red

> > face, but not the bumps. Any help would be appreciated. Best regards,=

> > .

> > >>

> > Hi ,

> > Well, you probably don't want to hear this, but I've concluded that

> > nothing is as effective for the bumps as avoiding the triggers that get=

you

> > there in the first place. I use Noritate on the bumps, which helps som=

e.

> > But it doesn't keep me from getting them if I've done something wrong t=

hat

> > gets me into a flare. The most important thing for me is to use produc=

ts on

> > my face that are absolutely proven to be gentle for me. Next most impo=

rtant

> > is avoiding my food triggers.

> > Wanda

> >

>

>

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,

When antibiotics failed, without and along

with metronidazole, I decided to take Accutane

for the bumps. In the past seven months that

have gone since I finished my five month long

course on the maximum dose for my weight, I've

had all in all two or three pimples (one - directly

after the treatment - needed a steroid shot),

instead of two or three or more daily! It was worth

it, in spite of all side effects. I am now

concentrating on the dilated veins and the burning

sensation in the red areas of the face. For that

I'm undergoing Photoderm treatment which is also

supposed to treat the acne component; the papules

and the broken vessels seem to be connected

somehow. After this I'm turning to my ocular symptoms

- and am still waiting for Dr. Nase to write about

successfull treatments of the eyes.

Thor.

<7lfhhl$fg1-egroups> wrote:

original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=5870

> Does anyone know why rosacea expresses itself in bumps? I read somewhere

about " peri-vascular infiltration of white blood cells, " butI do not even know

what this means. I realize that the reddened face is related to dilated blood

vessles in the face, but this does not sound like it explains the bumps.

>

> I would be interested in learning from others what success they have had in

the treatment of the imflammatory or acne component of rosacea. You guess what

direction my rosacea headed this summer. I can live with a spotty red face, but

not the bumps. Any help would be appreciated. Best regards, .

>

>

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Dawn, I follow your logic. However, I find I get bumps from overheating --=

like exercising too much, sitting in a very hot room, etc. I don't seem

to get them when I turn red from embarassment/stress. For me, the differen=

ce may be with the height that the body temperature goes to and how long it =

takes for my body to cool down once it goes beyond the " rosacea " threshold. =

Under stress/embarassment, my body doesn't get as hot as it does as when I =

overexercise. I don't know if this is correct or not, but I do happen to no=

tice the distinction. In fact, if I take a shower right after I exercise I =

get no zits. When I wait for 15 minutes and then shower, I can count on a c=

ouple of zits. That's been my experience anyway...

Matija

<7lgkb2$kvl-egroups> wrote:

original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=5884

> Somebody out there please dispute or verify this. I understand that the b=

umps can be at least partially caused by the irritation and inflamation brou=

ght on by the flushing. Is this fact?? Some of you have found your bumps red=

uced along w/ your flushing subsequent to photoderm treatments, so it makes =

sense.

>

> Dawn

>

>

> <7lggpb$85m-egroups> wrote:

> original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=5879=

> > Like Wanda, I get bumps from triggering them. Mine are being overheate=

d and using cosmetics/creams with comedogenic ingredients. It sounds like h=

eat is a trigger for you, too. There are lots of tricks for cooling down. =

You can try putting a cold pack on the back of your neck when you think you'=

re getting too hot. I've found reusable cold packs for $2.79 at the drugsto=

re. You can drink lots of ice water and stay in the shade. If you have to =

go outside in the sun wear a hat, take a portable fan with you and spray you=

r face with cold water.

> >

> > I don't like to use oral antibiotics because I took a lot of them when =

I was a teenager. (I hate the taste of them.) I guess the trade off is bei=

ng ultra careful with triggers.

> >

> > Matija

> >

> > wrote:

> > original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=58=

73

> > > In a message dated 7/1/99 3:57:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > > sgyesq@... writes:

> > >

> > > << I would be interested in learning from others what success they ha=

ve had

> > > in the treatment of the imflammatory or acne component of rosacea. Y=

ou guess

> > > what direction my rosacea headed this summer. I can live with a spot=

ty red

> > > face, but not the bumps. Any help would be appreciated. Best regard=

s,

> > > .

> > > >>

> > > Hi ,

> > > Well, you probably don't want to hear this, but I've concluded that

> > > nothing is as effective for the bumps as avoiding the triggers that g=

et you

> > > there in the first place. I use Noritate on the bumps, which helps s=

ome.

> > > But it doesn't keep me from getting them if I've done something wrong=

that

> > > gets me into a flare. The most important thing for me is to use prod=

ucts on

> > > my face that are absolutely proven to be gentle for me. Next most im=

portant

> > > is avoiding my food triggers.

> > > Wanda

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

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Do your bumps go away. My face is dotted with tiny red spots that never go

away, only become more or less red, depending on who knows what? I don't

get generalized flushing.

I would be interested in how your bumps look. Ann

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In a message dated 07/03/1999 7:48:55 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

ahubbard@... writes:

> Do your bumps go away. My face is dotted with tiny red spots that never go

> away, only become more or less red, depending on who knows what? I don't

> get generalized flushing.

Ann, if you notice that the tiny red spots fade when you take Ibuprofen

(Advil), they're probably broken blood vessels or telangiectasia. I had one

on each cheek and one on the tip of my nose that seemed worse on some days,

better when I took Advil (for a different reason). During the month I was on

tetracycline it really went down a good deal but became noticeable again

after I had been off it a while. All three marks were zapped yesterday by

pulsed dye laser. Doc told me that treatment should last up to five years

before I might need more.

Diane

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Bumps

> Do your bumps go away. My face is dotted with tiny red spots that never

go

> away, only become more or less red, depending on who knows what? I don't

> get generalized flushing.

>

> I would be interested in how your bumps look. Ann

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mine are sometimes flesh coloured, sometimes red. Basically all they look

like is a pore that's been raised about the size of a pin-head. I don't know

if it's a clogged pore, or a papule, pastule, or something caused by yeast.

I have no idea at this point, but not much seems to affect them. I think the

photoderm would take care of these, but I'm not entirely sure.

D.

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