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My son is 2.5 and has been diagnosed with probable apraxia, with the

big tip off being the amount of 'groping' the SLP has witnessed.

I'll describe what I've seen with him. When he is asked to copy

movements with his tongue such as sticking it out, licking his lips

or forming sounds - he moves his tongue around in his mouth quite a

bit before finding the correct placement to perform the task. This

is the best way I can describe it. Maybe someone else can give you a

better description.

Good luck!

~Tracey in WI

> Could someone with experience watching a toddler " grope " for words

> describe to me how it looks. The one thing that Josiah's ST says

SHE

> does not see this characteristic in him but I do or at least I

think

> I do. He is becoming more frustrated and aggressive at times so

its

> my job to figure out if its the sensory issues and the speech

> frustrations or one in particular making his behavior change.

Thank

> you! Tammy in Maine

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Hey Tam :)

What I see as " groping " did not show up in Nick until just recently,

when he started trying to say more than one word sentances. For

Nick he seems to start to form one word than opens and shuts his

mouth, he might raise his hands up to start to sign something then

drops them and shakes his head and then tries the word. Sometimes

he licks his lips. It really appears to me a visual acting out of

searching for the word or that he can't form the word that he wants

to say. That's been my experience at least. BTW, Nick doesn't do

this in front of the SLP simply because he talks less with her than

with us!

- Nick's Mom

> Could someone with experience watching a toddler " grope " for words

> describe to me how it looks. The one thing that Josiah's ST says

SHE

> does not see this characteristic in him but I do or at least I

think

> I do. He is becoming more frustrated and aggressive at times so

its

> my job to figure out if its the sensory issues and the speech

> frustrations or one in particular making his behavior change.

Thank

> you! Tammy in Maine

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my 2.5 yr old son with just verbal gropes constantly. he pushes his

lips out and moves them around. it seems like the entire lower half

of his face is working. it lasts about 30 seconds and it looks like

a struggle. it cannot be missed.

hope this helps.

nancy-

-- In , " tam_carson "

<siahsmom@g...> wrote:

> Could someone with experience watching a toddler " grope " for words

> describe to me how it looks. The one thing that Josiah's ST says

SHE

> does not see this characteristic in him but I do or at least I

think

> I do. He is becoming more frustrated and aggressive at times so

its

> my job to figure out if its the sensory issues and the speech

> frustrations or one in particular making his behavior change.

Thank

> you! Tammy in Maine

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My 2.5 year old doesn't actually move his mouth so much when he struggles to

speak, he has low tone with tongue and mouth movements so I don't know how that

plays...but when he hears a word and tries to say it....he looks at you for a

few seconds, opens his mouth, looks at you again, hears the word again, moves

his mouth a little then either doesn't say anything or after hesitating makes a

sound that is rarely close to what he is trying to say. At ST he just looks at

the therapist or the toy being used.....may open his mouth more or keep it lax

as he often does....sometimes she has moved on to the other child or another

word and suddenly Josiah does speak and try to say the word or sound she wanted.

It is time delayed, he seems so puzzled, maybe its the fact he has these fine

motor and oral problems that I keep thinking that if he can't figure out how to

chew food right and swallow easily....how can his speech problem be phonological

only. I'm just asking help with this. Thank you. Everyones answer are giving

me a more accurate picture.

Tammy in Maine

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Just a note on groping for speech. Not all kids do it. My son never

did which was why his " knowledgeable " SLP at school said he wasn't

apraxic. Despite a private SLP eval, Dr. Agin and later an IEE paid

for by the school. Now if only she would become more educated to help

these kids. Sadly, she does get kids to talk but can't get them past

the articulation stages of longer utterances. So thankfully we have a

new one for kindergarten and a great private SLP.

denise

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