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Tell me how to order this RA SPES, Geoff. Many thanks,

Geoff Crenshaw wrote:

> From: " Geoff Crenshaw " <geoff@...>

>

> > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:40:40 EST

> > From: docmilligan@...

> > Subject: Natural Anti-Inflamatories

> >

> > I've heard that Ginger is a good Anti-Inflammatoriy and that

> Pantothenic Acid

> > is good as well...has anyone heard of any other " holistic " items to

> use

> > besides those?

>

> RA Spes (http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/6412/RA-SPES.htm) is

> generally superior, but unfortunatey expensive. The group has a discount

> arrangement if interested.

>

> HTH

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Sheri et all:

" You can easily go to the Medicare site online and dig around for an hour

to find out the most up-to-date information that applies in your state. "

Acutally what I did was call the Bureau of Insurance in my New England

state and they sent me a brochure of all medigap providers for my state.

What is confusing about the Medigap plans is that they come in about 9

different levels of care labeled A through I......so each state should

be able to offer this information to their medicare recipients to help

with the proces.....best, Beth

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> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:22:19 +1300

> From: " Lisbeth " <lisbeth@...>

> Subject: Re: Natural Anti-Inflamatories

>

> Trust you to show me up Carol <grin>

>

> I can't tell you what the mechanism is or how it works I just know

that

> taken on an empty stomach it acts as an anti-inflammatory but with

food it

> works as a digestive enzyme.

Unfettered absorption into the bloodstream (sera) without binding onto

foodstuffs.

HTH :)

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> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:40:40 EST

> From: docmilligan@...

> Subject: Natural Anti-Inflamatories

>

> I've heard that Ginger is a good Anti-Inflammatoriy and that

Pantothenic Acid

> is good as well...has anyone heard of any other " holistic " items to

use

> besides those?

RA Spes (http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/6412/RA-SPES.htm) is

generally superior, but unfortunatey expensive. The group has a discount

arrangement if interested.

HTH

Regards,

Geoff Crenshaw, ACC -----------------------

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Because I am under the blood of the Passover Lamb.

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hey ...hang in there darlin'. Glad to hear about the meds but ouch in

regards to the flares. I do know what ya mean when ya say ya hate to say

something to the docs. I went to my ortho to see about special shoes or

orthotics and my prescription says SURGERY! My response was put the ankle in

line behind the hand and the shoulder...oh well...LOL

Donna

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hello to all,

my daughter jessica who is 17 and a senior in high school has just been

given the possible diagnosis of JRA. she is suffering a lot with joint pain

tho they have put her on celebrex for now which seems to be finally giving

her some relief . she is missing on average 1-2 days a week of school. we

are heading to cleveland clinic next week ( we're in ohio) for further

evaluation. really appreciate this site as it has helped me to learn so much

and feel a little more reassured. actually the diagnosis is almost a relief

after 6 weeks of returning to doctors and no one really being able to figure

out what was going on. I just met with her teachers this morning to get a

504 plan in action... luckily i've got a head start on this one as I teach

special ed and am well familiar with them.. just never dreamed I would need

one for my own daughter's senior year. thanks to all for sharing... so glad

i found this site!

marybeth

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beth,

Welcome. My 17 year old son was also just diagnosed with JRA this month.

This membership has been wonderful. I still only know enough to fill a

thimble - which explains any fears I may have. The more I learn the

better I feel. You'll find this is a great support group.

I've found that if I have questions about anything, I simply ask and

within a very short time, I have answers, suggestions, and past

experiences. It's wonderful!!

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Good Luck, Donna. I hope the foot problem doesn't get too bad. Pretty

soon you may start feeling like the Bionic Woman :) Question: if you've

have had joint replacements, do you always beep when going through the

airport security checkpoints? If so, do you have to explain why?

Just Curious :)

Georgina

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> hey ...hang in there darlin'. Glad to hear about the meds but ouch in

> regards to the flares. I do know what ya mean when ya say ya hate to say

> something to the docs. I went to my ortho to see about special shoes or

> orthotics and my prescription says SURGERY! My response was put the ankle in

> line behind the hand and the shoulder...oh well...LOL

> Donna

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hi georgina, i set the alarms off like crazy at the military fair here...i

live near ft. bragg,nc. soldiers and military police come running from all

directions and scared the mess outta me. fortunately, they believed me and

let me go on thru. now its kinda funny, but boy did they get my heart going

back then. brandy

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In a message dated 1/10/2001 10:43:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,

patsy1128@... writes:

<< I went to a podiatrist & he took pics & said they

didn't go thru. I guess its not an ulcer. He put pieces of foam inside

shoes to take pressure off, but by the time I got home they were

wrinkled up & out of place. Docs around hereare totally worthless!

God Bless, Patsy >>

Patsy

Have you tried finding another podiatrist? Before I go to a new doctor of any

kind, I do as much research as I can about that doctor. Make sure they are

reputable, know how to treat your disease. Good luck to you, I hope you get

those feet taken care of. It's the only ones you have. If you have a good

orthopedic doc, maybe he can refer you to a good podiatrist. If not, there

are wound care centers that might be able to help.

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Hi Patsy here,

I too love gardening, both veggies & flowers. I overdo it, but its the

best darn therapy there is! My father was a gardener, (HUGE), half an

acre. I helped him every year, pushed a tiller, the whole nine yards,

but I loved it. Ruth my dad also worked very hard, (had CMT, but he

never ever knew), actually it hasn't been that long that we found out

about it. My father never complained, & he worked in steel mill & had

lots of walking to do. & Becky, I am part Cherokee Indian to. I

was a tomboy too, loved anythng to do w/ outdoors, still do, but I am

limited now too. I love hiking, & when I can I pick up a stick to hold

on to. Don't any of you, your feet hurt sooo bad you can't hardly be on

them, & have anyone heard of bones on bottom of feet pushing through the

side of foot by the small toe. This happened to my half-bro whom I have

never met, ( he lives in CO.) That I think is happening to me. I am

trying to get appt. to MDA in Feb. The side of foot by small toe is

widening out & I have places on bottom that are reddish even sometimes

black. dried blood) I went to a podiatrist & he took pics & said they

didn't go thru. I guess its not an ulcer. He put pieces of foam inside

shoes to take pressure off, but by the time I got home they were

wrinkled up & out of place. Docs around hereare totally worthless!

God Bless, Patsy

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patsy1128@... wrote:

> have anyone heard of bones on bottom of feet pushing through the

> side of foot by the small toe.

Hi Patsy,

I had to have all the toe bones, part of the arch itself, calf, and

heel bones removed from both feet due to bone deformation and

atrophying. The podiatrist that did the surgeries put metal surgical

shunts in to hold the toes straight, but with the atrophying they moved

so now I truly have wiggly toes. My first surgery was back in the mid

70's, he told me then he believed I had cmt a form of muscular dystrophy

but I didn't want to hear it and told him when it got bad enough if it

ever did I would go to the MDA and have them do something. The bones

actually did protrude outside of the skin looking kind of weird like I

grew an extra toe where one shouldn't have been. It was somewhat

painful but I had limited sensations in both legs since being a teenager

so the pain wasn't the big deal, it really didn't hurt enough to

complain. I am fortunate now, though some would say I'm not, I have no

sensations whatsoever in the legs or the hands up to the elbows.

I have found the best physicians are at teaching medical center

university hospitals. My neurologist and the podiatrist are both

there. I no longer see the podiatrist as I don't walk anymore, but do

see the neurologist, also now a urologist for the kidney and bladder

atrophy. He is also at the medical university. Good luck with the

foot.

leslie

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In a message dated 02/24/2001 2:49:28 AM Central Standard Time,

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<< Message: 8

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:17:09 -0000

From: " D & WMcPhail " <dwmcphail@...>

Subject: Re: what to do

Help!!! how much is your weight in pounds??

(((i feel dumb)))

wendy

Re: what to do

YES, YES, YES. This is great. maybe we can get somewhere together with

this. that sounded funny! I meant help each other out. I am the same as

you. I cannot be bothered eating normally. BUT, I am eating more on this

diet, and losing more weight each day. The more protein I eat, the more I

loose, but I need it to keep myself stable and feeling o.k. Vicious cycle.

I am 39 years old, 5foot 6 inches, and weigh about 51-52 kilos. I think

that's right. I told my CS list that I was really thin and weighed 152

kilos!!! LOL....I would not be t hin if I weighed that!. >>

Long time no post, I know, but can't resist replying to this (in case no one

already hasn't) 52 kilo's is (checks converter) 114.6 pounds. Holy smokes,

one featherweight person! You are the same height as me, and I weigh 125

pounds (56.7 kilos) !!!! What diet are you following?? BTW, I am 25 years

old, if age has anything to do with it.

.

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1 kilogram is about 2.2 pounds!

>From: NorthernRosebud@...

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: Re: Digest Number 691

>Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:16:15 EST

>

>In a message dated 02/24/2001 2:49:28 AM Central Standard Time,

>candidiasis writes:

>

><< Message: 8

> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:17:09 -0000

> From: " D & WMcPhail " <dwmcphail@...>

> Subject: Re: what to do

>

> Help!!! how much is your weight in pounds??

> (((i feel dumb)))

> wendy

>

> Re: what to do

>

>

> YES, YES, YES. This is great. maybe we can get somewhere together with

> this. that sounded funny! I meant help each other out. I am the same

>as

> you. I cannot be bothered eating normally. BUT, I am eating more on

>this

> diet, and losing more weight each day. The more protein I eat, the more

>I

> loose, but I need it to keep myself stable and feeling o.k. Vicious

>cycle.

> I am 39 years old, 5foot 6 inches, and weigh about 51-52 kilos. I think

> that's right. I told my CS list that I was really thin and weighed 152

> kilos!!! LOL....I would not be t hin if I weighed that!. >>

>

>Long time no post, I know, but can't resist replying to this (in case no

>one

>already hasn't) 52 kilo's is (checks converter) 114.6 pounds. Holy

>smokes,

>one featherweight person! You are the same height as me, and I weigh 125

>pounds (56.7 kilos) !!!! What diet are you following?? BTW, I am 25 years

>old, if age has anything to do with it.

>

>.

>

>------------/------------

>Some people come into our lives and quickly go

>Leaving bruises and scars on our hearts

>Some stay awhile and leave gentle footprints

>Of love and respect on our hearts and souls

>And we are Never, Ever the same.

>

>2001/02/24 19:16:14 CST

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I don't know. is anyone out there any good at conversions?

Love . Whats 52 kgs converted to pounds?

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>

>

> YES, YES, YES. This is great. maybe we can get somewhere together with

> this. that sounded funny! I meant help each other out. I am the same

as

> you. I cannot be bothered eating normally. BUT, I am eating more on

this

> diet, and losing more weight each day. The more protein I eat, the more

I

> loose, but I need it to keep myself stable and feeling o.k. Vicious

cycle.

> I am 39 years old, 5foot 6 inches, and weigh about 51-52 kilos. I think

> that's right. I told my CS list that I was really thin and weighed 152

> kilos!!! LOL....I would not be t hin if I weighed that!. >>

>

> Long time no post, I know, but can't resist replying to this (in case no

one

> already hasn't) 52 kilo's is (checks converter) 114.6 pounds. Holy

smokes,

> one featherweight person! You are the same height as me, and I weigh 125

> pounds (56.7 kilos) !!!! What diet are you following?? BTW, I am 25

years

> old, if age has anything to do with it.

>

> .

>

> ------------/------------

> Some people come into our lives and quickly go

> Leaving bruises and scars on our hearts

> Some stay awhile and leave gentle footprints

> Of love and respect on our hearts and souls

> And we are Never, Ever the same.

>

> 2001/02/24 19:16:14 CST

>

>

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about 115

Regards

Pete

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> >

> >

> > YES, YES, YES. This is great. maybe we can get somewhere together

with

> > this. that sounded funny! I meant help each other out. I am the same

> as

> > you. I cannot be bothered eating normally. BUT, I am eating more on

> this

> > diet, and losing more weight each day. The more protein I eat, the

more

> I

> > loose, but I need it to keep myself stable and feeling o.k. Vicious

> cycle.

> > I am 39 years old, 5foot 6 inches, and weigh about 51-52 kilos. I

think

> > that's right. I told my CS list that I was really thin and weighed 152

> > kilos!!! LOL....I would not be t hin if I weighed that!. >>

> >

> > Long time no post, I know, but can't resist replying to this (in case no

> one

> > already hasn't) 52 kilo's is (checks converter) 114.6 pounds. Holy

> smokes,

> > one featherweight person! You are the same height as me, and I weigh

125

> > pounds (56.7 kilos) !!!! What diet are you following?? BTW, I am 25

> years

> > old, if age has anything to do with it.

> >

> > .

> >

> > ------------/------------

> > Some people come into our lives and quickly go

> > Leaving bruises and scars on our hearts

> > Some stay awhile and leave gentle footprints

> > Of love and respect on our hearts and souls

> > And we are Never, Ever the same.

> >

> > 2001/02/24 19:16:14 CST

> >

> >

> > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want

to

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52 times 2.2 = 114.4 pounds

>From: " Nick Grant " <nwgrant@...>

>Reply-candidiasis

><candidiasis >

>Subject: Re: Digest Number 691

>Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:37:57 +1300

>

>I don't know. is anyone out there any good at conversions?

>

>Love . Whats 52 kgs converted to pounds?

>

> Re: what to do

> >

> >

> > YES, YES, YES. This is great. maybe we can get somewhere together

>with

> > this. that sounded funny! I meant help each other out. I am the same

>as

> > you. I cannot be bothered eating normally. BUT, I am eating more on

>this

> > diet, and losing more weight each day. The more protein I eat, the

>more

>I

> > loose, but I need it to keep myself stable and feeling o.k. Vicious

>cycle.

> > I am 39 years old, 5foot 6 inches, and weigh about 51-52 kilos. I

>think

> > that's right. I told my CS list that I was really thin and weighed 152

> > kilos!!! LOL....I would not be t hin if I weighed that!. >>

> >

> > Long time no post, I know, but can't resist replying to this (in case no

>one

> > already hasn't) 52 kilo's is (checks converter) 114.6 pounds. Holy

>smokes,

> > one featherweight person! You are the same height as me, and I weigh

>125

> > pounds (56.7 kilos) !!!! What diet are you following?? BTW, I am 25

>years

> > old, if age has anything to do with it.

> >

> > .

> >

> > ------------/------------

> > Some people come into our lives and quickly go

> > Leaving bruises and scars on our hearts

> > Some stay awhile and leave gentle footprints

> > Of love and respect on our hearts and souls

> > And we are Never, Ever the same.

> >

> > 2001/02/24 19:16:14 CST

> >

> >

> > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want

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I live in South Central Kentucky. The county I live in has really been hit hard

economically by it's main employer moving their production out of the country.

But I do several trade shows around the state, as well as taking orders for

holidays. Don't sell your products and ideas short, we can't give our stuff

away!

Blessings,

Kathy Ellis

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:28:49 -0600

From: " Theresa Harley " <dyrw@...>

Subject: Re: GARDEN POTS

Kathy,

What state do you live in? I live in a small area in Wisconsin so I am not

sure how to charge for things, they seem very tight with their money out

here.

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I am using 6 " pots. Works out great and they are fairly cheap, less than a

dollar.

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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:22:24 -0600

From: " j hayes " <jhayes@...>

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hi, what a great ideal for gift giving. what size clay pots are you using?

thanks jennifer

GARDEN POTS

>I make up gift sets using clay pots as the container. First I paint the

pots, either with the crackle finsih glaze or by sponging, then I paint on

my logo and company name. I put in a bar of my Gardeners Hand Soap, a

trowel, a garden marker ( using herb names if I can find them) and a lotion

bar. Sometimes I include another bar of soap, such as lavender or comfrey &

aloe, that will help to relax and sooth the body after a day of gardening. I

vary what I use in the pots, sometimes using gardening gloves, nailbrushes,

herb seeds or other items pertaining to gardening. I sell 2 sizes, one is

$20.00 and the other sells for $32.50. I custom make them by order if the

customer desires and have even personalized the pots with the recipents

name.

>

>I finish off the gift by wrapping it in clear cellophane, and tying a

wrapphia bow on it. They sell very well and I get lots of request for them

around Mother's Day and Christmas.

>

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For Maureen and Dale : Re Anne Frahm's death.....I called the place in

Colorado that her husband started to help cancer patients, and I was told she

died because the chemo destroyed her liver and she could no longer process iron.

Makes sense to me. Too bad she didn't do the non-toxic methods first. Let that

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Thanks a lot for getting us this information. It wasn't clear to me how the

iron poisoning had killed her. She sure made a valiant effort though.

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help cancer patients, and I was told she died because the chemo destroyed her

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Ellen,

Thanks for clearing that up. Sounds like chemo is not that great. Maybe she

didn't have time for a liver transplant, huh? My friends have waited for years

and she may not have had time. She did get rid of the cancer, tho. I ordered

her book and hope details are in there.

thanks again,

Maureen

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Colorado that her husband started to help cancer patients, and I was told she

died because the chemo destroyed her liver and she could no longer process iron.

Makes sense to me. Too bad she didn't do the non-toxic methods first. Let that

be a lesson to anyone considering chemo.

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Hey Liz!

I just wanted to know how you were doing with the breathing, and have you

lost anymore weight? I have not been doing it for quite some time, but

thought that I should start it up again. This weight just doesn't seem to

want to come off. I'm so discouraged. I have lost 10lbs, but it seems like

it doesn't want to go any further than that.

Take care of yourselves!

le

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Hi le,

I was thinking about you the other day. Wondering if you were still here.

How have you been?

I'm doing well. I'm still not at my goal yet, but I'm a lot closer. My

stomach is finally trying to catch up in losses with the rest of my body.

If you remember my stomach was my hardest area to lose from, however

between belly flatteners, digestive enzymes and colon cleansing it's

finally shrinking quite a bit. " Yea!!!!!! " It's exciting, I've had this

bubble belly for as long as I can remember and now it's finally going

away.

I've been trying to stick with eating a little less, but I've messed up

so much lately. I'll do good for a week or so, mess up for a couple of

days, get back to it and do ok for a week, mess up again etc. etc. If I

could just stick with it for a whole month it would be a miracle. :-) I'm

consistently losing inches doing LL with no eating changes. However I

lose quicker when I cut back on eating. My goal for eating is to eat

about 30 pts. on the WW diet, which of course is more pts. then they go

by, however with LL the inches and lbs. melt quicker just by cutting back

a little. Now if I could just be as consistent at cutting back on

portions as I am with breathing and drinking water.

Love, Liz

-----

Hey Liz!

I just wanted to know how you were doing with the breathing, and have you

lost anymore weight? I have not been doing it for quite some time, but

thought that I should start it up again. This weight just doesn't seem to

want to come off. I'm so discouraged. I have lost 10lbs, but it seems

like

it doesn't want to go any further than that.

Take care of yourselves!

le

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