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Hi Kathy,

When my son was in first grade he also did some " stimming " behaviors....at least

that is what it looked like. It is related, as it turns out, to HEARING LOSS,

fatigue and stress. His was also such that when you looked at him or asked him

to stop he could. The developmental pediatrician said that because of this they

were not " true " tics or " stimming " . When he is well rested, his hearing issues

are addressed and he is not under stress he does not have this

behaviors...whatever you want to call them.

He is in horseback riding, therapeutic, for the first time this year. At the

place we go he does an hour a week for six weeks and then there is a two week

break. It has only been during this second six week period that I have been

able to see any benefit: a higher verbal output, less fear of large animals and

more confidence and better balance...........GREAT NEWS is he went six feet

BALANCING on a scooter (both feet off the ground!). We are REALLY hoping that

this will be the summer that he finally able to ride a two wheeler! I have to

fill out LOADS of paperwork, applying every where I hear about for scholarships

and funding in order to continue the horse riding as it is very expensive and we

can't afford it on our very limited/low income. But finally seeing this

progress encourages me to keep trying.

Carol (mom to two great boys)

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Carol,

How exciting that you see improvement in your sons balance and self esteem due

to horse back riding. My oldest daughter(8 1/2) had/has sensory issues and I

found a stable that started the as young as five so we were driving her back and

forth every week for two years so she could get in her riding time. It really

did help with her sensory issues and improved her self esteem.

I was just wondering if that would also help children with verbal apraxia? Have

you heard anything on that? I don't know if I could afford two taking riding

lesson's but I am interested if anyone has seen more verbal language results

with having their child horse back ride.

Liz in NH

Holt <kcholt11@...> wrote:

Hi Kathy,

When my son was in first grade he also did some " stimming " behaviors....at least

that is what it looked like. It is related, as it turns out, to HEARING LOSS,

fatigue and stress. His was also such that when you looked at him or asked him

to stop he could. The developmental pediatrician said that because of this they

were not " true " tics or " stimming " . When he is well rested, his hearing issues

are addressed and he is not under stress he does not have this

behaviors...whatever you want to call them.

He is in horseback riding, therapeutic, for the first time this year. At the

place we go he does an hour a week for six weeks and then there is a two week

break. It has only been during this second six week period that I have been

able to see any benefit: a higher verbal output, less fear of large animals and

more confidence and better balance...........GREAT NEWS is he went six feet

BALANCING on a scooter (both feet off the ground!). We are REALLY hoping that

this will be the summer that he finally able to ride a two wheeler! I have to

fill out LOADS of paperwork, applying every where I hear about for scholarships

and funding in order to continue the horse riding as it is very expensive and we

can't afford it on our very limited/low income. But finally seeing this

progress encourages me to keep trying.

Carol (mom to two great boys)

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's been doing Hippotherapy (not horseback riding lessons, but

actual therapy on a horse with a PT) for two years now and it has

helped her verbally as well. Since it's common for children with

Apraxia to also have Hypotonia increasing strength in their trunk as

well as improved respiration both help speech. 's overtone and

receptive language has improved as well. She used to flop back and

forth on the horse when she started at age 2, now at age 4 she can

ride upright, sideways, backwards, on her hands & knees, and even

standing up (there is a picture of her standing up on a horse on the

home page of my group..link inside my profile). Last

Saturday they had her throwing the ball to them from the horse and

she not only did that on command, she put her hands out to catch the

ball when they threw it back. She hasn't been able to play catch

before due to her limb Apraxia. So the benefits of Hippotherapy are

worth it.

Jill - Mom to age 4

> Carol,

>

> How exciting that you see improvement in your sons balance and

self esteem due to horse back riding. My oldest daughter(8 1/2)

had/has sensory issues and I found a stable that started the as

young as five so we were driving her back and forth every week for

two years so she could get in her riding time. It really did help

with her sensory issues and improved her self esteem.

>

> I was just wondering if that would also help children with verbal

apraxia? Have you heard anything on that? I don't know if I could

afford two taking riding lesson's but I am interested if anyone has

seen more verbal language results with having their child horse back

ride.

>

> Liz in NH

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Liz -

I'm not Carol but if you look up hippotherapy on the internet, an

organization called NAHRA (whose name I cannot recall - only the initials!) has

a lot of information on the types of conditions that benefit from hippotherapy

and therapeutic riding. In fact, speech paths often recommend hippotherapy for

kids with speech issues - I can't recall the connection but I've also seen

amazing results - kids who couldn't say certain sounds or letters were saying

them consistently after a few sessions on the horse with therapists working with

the kid. I don't know if just " therapeutic riding " is the same - I don't think

so as hippotherapists are specifically trained to work with PT, OT, SLP/SLT,

etc. The NAHRA site can also hook you up with stables in your area (if any).

Sherry

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Carol,

How exciting that you see improvement in your sons balance and self esteem due

to horse back riding. My oldest daughter(8 1/2) had/has sensory issues and I

found a stable that started the as young as five so we were driving her back and

forth every week for two years so she could get in her riding time. It really

did help with her sensory issues and improved her self esteem.

I was just wondering if that would also help children with verbal apraxia? Have

you heard anything on that? I don't know if I could afford two taking riding

lesson's but I am interested if anyone has seen more verbal language results

with having their child horse back ride.

Liz in NH

Holt <kcholt11@...> wrote:

Hi Kathy,

When my son was in first grade he also did some " stimming " behaviors....at least

that is what it looked like. It is related, as it turns out, to HEARING LOSS,

fatigue and stress. His was also such that when you looked at him or asked him

to stop he could. The developmental pediatrician said that because of this they

were not " true " tics or " stimming " . When he is well rested, his hearing issues

are addressed and he is not under stress he does not have this

behaviors...whatever you want to call them.

He is in horseback riding, therapeutic, for the first time this year. At the

place we go he does an hour a week for six weeks and then there is a two week

break. It has only been during this second six week period that I have been

able to see any benefit: a higher verbal output, less fear of large animals and

more confidence and better balance...........GREAT NEWS is he went six feet

BALANCING on a scooter (both feet off the ground!). We are REALLY hoping that

this will be the summer that he finally able to ride a two wheeler! I have to

fill out LOADS of paperwork, applying every where I hear about for scholarships

and funding in order to continue the horse riding as it is very expensive and we

can't afford it on our very limited/low income. But finally seeing this

progress encourages me to keep trying.

Carol (mom to two great boys)

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hi Carol,

My son has some " stimming " issues as well. Its interesting what you said was

the reason why your son does it. The doctor said that it was stress and fatigue?

My son does do it more at the end of the day. I said to people he does because

he's tired wow thanks for your post. Does your doctor tell you why the stress

and fatigue cause your son to " stim " Why would the hearing loss cause him to

" stim " . sorry for all the questions

chris

Holt <kcholt11@...> wrote:

Hi Kathy,

When my son was in first grade he also did some " stimming " behaviors....at least

that is what it looked like. It is related, as it turns out, to HEARING LOSS,

fatigue and stress. His was also such that when you looked at him or asked him

to stop he could. The developmental pediatrician said that because of this they

were not " true " tics or " stimming " . When he is well rested, his hearing issues

are addressed and he is not under stress he does not have this

behaviors...whatever you want to call them.

He is in horseback riding, therapeutic, for the first time this year. At the

place we go he does an hour a week for six weeks and then there is a two week

break. It has only been during this second six week period that I have been

able to see any benefit: a higher verbal output, less fear of large animals and

more confidence and better balance...........GREAT NEWS is he went six feet

BALANCING on a scooter (both feet off the ground!). We are REALLY hoping that

this will be the summer that he finally able to ride a two wheeler! I have to

fill out LOADS of paperwork, applying every where I hear about for scholarships

and funding in order to continue the horse riding as it is very expensive and we

can't afford it on our very limited/low income. But finally seeing this

progress encourages me to keep trying.

Carol (mom to two great boys)

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