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In a message dated 5/8/2003 3:54:24 PM Central Standard Time,

kanga2@... writes:

> Anyone have any idea why one carb affects me so and another has no effect?

>

I have found the same thing....grains in any form give me a higher

reading....but sweet potatoes, pumpkins and beans hardly nudge me. I read

somewhere a long time ago that it might be related to actually being allergic

to wheat.....I also know that if I do get into the wheat my stomach is all

bloated.....so I mostly stay away from them with an occasional low carb piece

of toast.

Ressy

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anne wrote:

> I have had something happen that perplexes me. I have found (through trial

and error) that ALL bread products send my bg's sky high. I took a risk and had

mashed potato and pumplin with dinner last night and it didn't raise my bg's one

jot. I'm confused? Anyone have any idea why one carb affects me so and another

has no effect?

> anne

anne,

The short answer is " YMMV " (Your Mileage May Vary). You may just be a

fortunate person whose diabetic body can handle the potatoes.

Potatoes, particularly mashed, are very high GI, and for myself, I

can't even think about them without my bg's going up! That's an

exaggeration, of course, but I would love to be able to eat them and

keep control of my bg's but it just isn't in the cards.

Now, to really answer you, more information would help.

A couple of questions regarding your " potato/pumpkin " meal---

When did you test? Before meal? When after? How many times after?

Could you give the actual test results?

What did you eat in addition to the " potato/pumpkin " ?

How much fat (butter, oil, etc)?

Well, I guess that's more than a couple of questions, but the answers

would help us analyze what happened.

, T2, diagnosed 4/98, controlling with LC, average bg 100mg/dl,

last HbA1c 5.6%

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This sort of thing happens to everyone--some food that is high in carbs doesn't

send one's BS up, while another which by the numbers is equal or less carb-full

will shoot it up. One has to learn by trial and error what one can and cannot

eat. The idea that 'a carb is a carb is a carb' (apologies to Gertrude Stein)

is simply not true to most people's experience.

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G'day everyone,

Hope you're all well today.

I have had something happen that perplexes me. I have found (through trial

and error) that ALL bread products send my bg's sky high. I took a risk and had

mashed potato and pumplin with dinner last night and it didn't raise my bg's one

jot. I'm confused? Anyone have any idea why one carb affects me so and another

has no effect?

TIA

anne

(who's bg's run at under 7 (126) these days since lowering my carb intake)

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Thank you Bruce,

I'm still new to watching my carb intake and I guess I have an awful long way to

go before I understand it all.

anne

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This sort of thing happens to everyone--some food that is high in carbs

doesn't send one's BS up, while another which by the numbers is equal or less

carb-full will shoot it up. One has to learn by trial and error what one can

and cannot eat. The idea that 'a carb is a carb is a carb' (apologies to

Gertrude Stein) is simply not true to most people's experience.

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anne wrote:

> Thank you Ressy,

> Toast is the thing I miss the most. I used to be a " coffee and toast " for

breakfast girl, now, I mostly don't eat breakfast at all mainly because I don't

know what I can safely have for breakfast. The weather's getting colder Down

Under and I'd kill for some warm porridge but alas, that's a major no-no for me

so if anyone has any suggestions for a quick-to-prepare breakfast I'd be ever so

grateful!

> anne

>

I don't know what you can handle, but I have the same breakfast every day. One

egg over medium on top of a buttered piece of oatmeal bread (12 carb), and 4-6

oz of OJ.

No problems for me handling that.

--

Dave - 6:55:57 PM

T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H

A 4th generation Diabetic

-

Davors Daily Aphorism:

" You're never too old to become the person you might have been. "

Lennon

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In a message dated 5/9/03 3:01:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

kanga2@... writes:

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> Thank you Ressy,

> Toast is the thing I miss the most. I used to be a " coffee and toast " for

> breakfast girl, now, I mostly don't eat breakfast at all mainly because I

> don't know what I can safely have for breakfast. The weather's getting

> colder Down Under and I'd kill for some warm porridge but alas, that's a

> major no-no for me so if anyone has any suggestions for a quick-to-prepare

> breakfast I'd be ever so grateful!

> anne

anne,

I found it helpful when I got over the notion of what were " traditional "

breakfast foods. That gives many more choices. I generally eat anything for

breakfast that I would at any other meal.

During the work week, I take left-overs from previous suppers to micro-wave

at work. This usually includes meat & low GI vegies and sometimes even a

salad with LC dressing. Also, maybe a little hard-cheese, some olives, dill

pickles or other LC condiment. It's quick & easy as anything, just a few

minutes in the microwave with no preparation time at all.

Week-ends are another story. They tend to be more traditional (Breakfast for

two, not just me). I usually fix eggs (any style), meat and low-carb toast.

Now, I normally avoid any grain product, but I have found a bread from our

local bakery (Oroweat Whole Wheat " Lite " ) that has 5.5 net grams of carbs per

slice (total grams less fiber grams). I find I can have 2 slices with butter

(lots of butter!) and still stay under about a 20mg/dl post prandial rise. I

say " lots of butter " deliberately because I want to slow the absorption of

the bread carbs as much as I can. It works for me.

, T2, diagnosed 4/98, controlling with LC, average bg 100mg/dl, last

HbA1c 5.6%.

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In a message dated 5/9/2003 5:00:27 PM Central Standard Time,

kanga2@... writes:

> quick-to-prepare breakfast I'd be ever so grateful!

>

In the states here there are some low carb protein shakes or I just wait

until later in the morning and have brunch. Or think out of the box and

have dinner!!!

Ressy

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> anne,

> The short answer is " YMMV " (Your Mileage May Vary). You may just be

a

> fortunate person whose diabetic body can handle the potatoes.

> Potatoes, particularly mashed, are very high GI, and for myself, I

> can't even think about them without my bg's going up! That's an

> exaggeration, of course, but I would love to be able to eat them and

> keep control of my bg's but it just isn't in the cards.

I find that I can eat about a half cup of mashed potatoes without too

much of a spike, but baked potatoes are out of the question. Weird,

huh? I do love mashed potatoes, and fortunately I seem to have the

discipline to stop at a half cup, just so I can allow myself the

taste of them. When I eat them with a meal I try to eat very low GI

veggies with them, like asparagus or spinach.

Christy

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