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In a message dated 10/4/2003 3:20:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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> cranial sacal

Can you please tell me what this is? I'm new and have no clue, thanks!

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I have been taking my son for cranial scaral therapy for a year now on and off,

mostly on. I took two months off this summer and noticed a positive difference

when we started again, so I guess I will keep taking him. He is going to go

every other week now. But I think it helps with his sensory processing.

By the way my son started it at 2 and he will be 3 in two weeks. The key is

trying to plan the therapy when your child naps, if you can. It worked for us

up until recently. The therapist has new hours and they never coincide with

's nap. So I bring lots of books and toys and try to entertain him for a

half hour.

Michele

efrusy <nancyefrusy@...> wrote:

i was wondering if anyone of you have tried this. i saw that lisa

had done this with tanner. lisa, at what age did you start? i am

familiar with this and cannot imagine scotty(28m) sitting through

this. i do have a close friend who does cranial sacal and is willing

to trade services with me for scotty's treatments but i am not sure

if he can even manage this.

just wondering what anyone who has tried this has thought.

thanks!

nancy and scotty

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Michele

What kinds of things do they do during cranial scaral therapy?

(Mother of 2 yr old)

Re: [ ] cranial sacal

I have been taking my son for cranial scaral therapy for a year now on and

off, mostly on. I took two months off this summer and noticed a positive

difference when we started again, so I guess I will keep taking him. He is

going to go every other week now. But I think it helps with his sensory

processing.

By the way my son started it at 2 and he will be 3 in two weeks. The key is

trying to plan the therapy when your child naps, if you can. It worked for

us up until recently. The therapist has new hours and they never coincide

with 's nap. So I bring lots of books and toys and try to entertain him

for a half hour.

Michele

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Hi and all!

Being that we live so close to the Upledger Institute and they have

called me I can't believe I haven't taken Tanner and Dakota to

cranial sacral therapy there yet. I plan to. Between boy scouts,

lacrosse, soccer and of course homework there isn't much time left

over. And I guess the main reason -they both are doing so well

already because of all we did in the past. (including cranial sacral therapy!)

Speaking of past -here is an archived message on cranial sacral

therapy. Will update you all when we visit the Upledger Institute.

I know they would be interested in research on our population. Talk

to you guys from Florida about it at one of the next Late Talker

Network meetings that Kimmie has!

From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...>

Date: Thu May 8, 2003 10:24 am

Subject: Re: cranialsacral therapy

Hi Lillian!

Most people wouldn't know about it -don't feel bad. I've never had

cranial sacral therapy myself -so I don't know what it feels like -

but I do know that both of my boys LOVED it and would fight over who

went first. They would lay on a table with cushions and blankets -

semi dark room -aromatherapy and various types of relaxing music

would play.

Loran would mostly concentrate on the base of their necks -but would

work on their head too -I never once saw him touch Dakota or

Tanner's mouth Jennie. Both of my boys would fall asleep within

minutes of being on the table which was strange, especially with my

ADHD Dakota

-but I hear quite

common. What was really strange to watch -and others who take their

children to this type of therapy see it too -is that both Tanner and

Dakota would move their body in what I called a primitive way -like

leg twitching or hand movements while Loran was working on their

head and while they were asleep -that they didn't appear to be in

control of. When Loran was done (in about an hour) he would cover

them with the blanket and let them sleep until they woke up -which

was typically just minutes after Loran stopped they would wake up

slow and relaxed. While they were waking - Loren and I would speak

about the therapy and what I was seeing at home. Most of the

treatments I saw results right away -but sometimes I saw them the

next day. I took my boys once a week for a few months. I would do

it again -just have to find the time we have our boys in so many

other things now and doing so well!

OK -to break it down...What I was told is that there is a flow of

the cranial spinal fluid around the spine and up to the brain that

sometimes becomes blocked and this relaxing massage therapy helps

the flow of the cranial sacral fluid which helps the body function

better. It's supposed to be excellent therapy for those who were in

a car accident and had head injuries for example.

I noticed improvements in both of my boys -and being that I'm open

to exploring therapies that are not viewed as detrimental -and that

wasn't some outrageously priced therapy that I had to commit to for

a certain amount of sessions or time -I tried it and I liked it. If

you contact a therapist near you http://www.upledger.com/home.htm

I'm sure they will be more than happy to explain. I know I asked

lots of questions (No -me?!) I found the scientific theory behind

cranial sacral therapy fascinating. You will probably want to look

for a cranial sacral therapist that has some background in medical -

and has experience in working with autistic children (good luck

finding one that has worked on apraxic children even though there

are more of them since the awareness is so low!)

Still confused about what it is? -it looks like a head massage -

except it doesn't appear to just relax the body -it appears to

improve function and truly be therapeutic. Hope that helps -I'm not

an expert on this myself -just a believer it's worth exploring.

Here is an archived message of an article on this (and dolphin

therapy!! The Upledger Institute was exploring that together with

cranial sacral therapy -with dolphins you would have auditory

aspects too

-wonder if that aspect of the dolphins has ever been

studied?)

By Evening Gazette, UK

(may have to cut and paste link)

http://icteesside.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0001head/page.cfm?

objectid=12199194 & m\

ethod=full & siteid=50080

Off to the USA, thanks to you Sep 14 2002

By Evening Gazette

Autistic Teesside wonder boy is going to the USA to swim

with dolphins - thanks to YOUR help and the Evening Gazette!

, seven, from Brotton, made news across the world when he

spoke his first words after treatment by top Boro physio Bob Ward.

Bob gave ground- breaking craniosacral massage which brought a

breakthrough release from his world of silence.

His parents, and Francis, were fundraising hard to send their

son to a special £3,000 institute near Spanish Point, on the River

, in Ireland so he could swim with dol phins - and hopefully

improve further.

But now the exciting news is that so much cash has been donated the

threesome, plus 's brother , ten, will flying out to

swim with dolphins in sunny Florida instead! An American airline

has also donated a flight from Miami to Disneyland for a

week's holiday for the whole family.

An emotional said today: " is a real miracle.

" We are so grateful to everyone - especially to the Evening Gazette

for starting all this off in the first place.

" is continuing to improve and is trying to say sentences now

and we are sure we are on the road to even more breakthroughs.

" Bob is still regularly involved with 's treatment, although he

has been very busy recently with Juninho and other injured Boro

players.

" I would encourage anyone else to try craniosacral therapy, although

one thing does not always work for another. "

The family is giving £500 to Kilton Thorpe Special School, Brotton,

where is a pupil and four UK holidays donated by wellwishers

to Redcar's Grenfell Club for children with special needs.

first showed signs of autism when he was six months old and

couldn't speak until February's breakthrough.

His mum and dad were advised to contact a specialist physio by the

Irish clinic and that's when Bob came into the picture.

Craniosacral therapy uses special intensive massage techniques to

repair damaged nerve systems.

And says the results have been " phenomenal. " " He has started

to call us by our proper names - mam, dad and Mat. Previously he

had never uttered a word and it's just miraculous.

" Bob is our knight in shining armour and we can't thank him enough. "

Dad Francis said: " 's doctors are amazed. Previously he could

only make little physical gestures. "

Delighted Bob, 48, of Stockton, said at the time: " I'm amazed how

much he has improved.

" It is so rewarding to get to work with a child like . "

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Hard to explain. The PT touches my son lightly (enough where it use to not wake

him up) on the head, neck and back. It is suppose to move blood flow along

properly, I think. My son's oral motor therapist suggested it, so I tried it

and I think it helps. It does not hurt them at all it is soft touch. The

hardest part is getting them to sit still.

Michele

Alvarez <christina@...> wrote:

Michele

What kinds of things do they do during cranial scaral therapy?

(Mother of 2 yr old)

Re: [ ] cranial sacal

I have been taking my son for cranial scaral therapy for a year now on and

off, mostly on. I took two months off this summer and noticed a positive

difference when we started again, so I guess I will keep taking him. He is

going to go every other week now. But I think it helps with his sensory

processing.

By the way my son started it at 2 and he will be 3 in two weeks. The key is

trying to plan the therapy when your child naps, if you can. It worked for

us up until recently. The therapist has new hours and they never coincide

with 's nap. So I bring lots of books and toys and try to entertain him

for a half hour.

Michele

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> i was wondering if anyone of you have tried this. i saw that lisa

> had done this with tanner. lisa, at what age did you start? i am

> familiar with this and cannot imagine scotty(28m) sitting through

> this. i do have a close friend who does cranial sacal and is

willing

> to trade services with me for scotty's treatments but i am not sure

> if he can even manage this.

> just wondering what anyone who has tried this has thought.

> thanks!

> nancy and scotty

Hi ,

I have a ds just over 3 who has been receiving cranial sacral therapy

every other week for an hour each time for the past 6 - 8 months. I

just wish I could afford to do this every week. We were all

surprised at how well he did and does. Does he stay still the whole

time? No. But his therapist is great at working with him where he

is at right now. The one tip that helped us was videos. My ds loves

his videos and will stay still much longer while watching his video.

My ds has amazing surges following a session. His ST has commented

on it. I hope that you have a positive experience also.

All my best,

Lori (mom of , apraxia, repaired heart defect, mild cp, dev

delay and the sweetest boy in the world)

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Judy,

I'm close to that area and have always wanted to give it a try with my three

year old. Can you share the name of the therapist (inventor) you mention

that is just north of Orlando with me please? Thanks, KIM

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