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Tracey,

My daughter started on ProEfa at age 2 with no great results (no surges - just

her " usual " slow progress) but I kept giving it her and eventually added ProEpa

at 30 months. Her speech really started " taking off " at 32 months - ProEpa or

coincidence I'm not sure. But that is our experience. She never had any " side

effects " from taking the oil. She is now 35 months and progress is good - lots

more words and putting sentences together - however, she remains difficult to

understand by those not in the immediate family.

[ ] Anybody using or have used Pro-E " P " A on a 2

year old??

We are considering adding Pro-EPA to our 2.5 year old's 1.5 capsule a

day Pro-EFA. After almost 4 months we haven't seen any dramatic

effects of the Pro-EFA but there has been some slow progress. I'm a

bit more nervous about adding the Pro-EPA than I was introducing the

EFA and was wondering about others' experience, especially in a

toddler. Thanks!

~Tracey in WI

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Hi Tracey and ,

There is a small percentage that the EFAs do not work for, but first

rule out that there 'may' not be an obstacle preventing the

essential fatty acids from working. Only number one is a known

fact -the other three are anecdotal in this group:

Do you answer yes to any of the following?

1. Does your child eat a diet that contains high amounts of

saturated and trans fatty acids?

(french fry and doughnut oil, fried foods and other foods that are

high in the " bad " fats compromise the effectiveness of the " good "

fats of the fish oil)

2. Is your child on a high fiber diet?

(since I reported Tanner's results, it's being reported by a few

others now that with high fiber additions like Benefiber, the EFAs

may not work. Many children with apraxia and PDD have constipation

problems so may be inclined to use a high fiber diet -but it may be

better to try nectars than fiber. High fiber could be short

chaining the long chain fatty acids in the gut according to Tanner's

pediatric gastroenterologist)

3. Is your child also taking other oils like cod liver oil and/or

flax?

(you could be changing both the formula and dosage that is working

for most. Just stick to the basic and then slowly add or tweak from

there.)

4. Do you live in an area of the country or world that is very low

in toxins? You would know because there are no support groups in

your area, no other children -or very few -like yours around.

(the EFAs are more likely to work in areas where there are higher

amounts of apraxic and PDD children. The States we know for sure

are high for the EFAs working are NJ and surrounding states,

California, Texas, the Carolinas and Ohio.)

If you answered yes to any of the above, see if you can

change to a " no " (other than 4) and then see if this makes a difference.

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Hi ,

I just started my 33 month old on proEpa this week he too was on ProEfa at two

and did not seen any verbal surges. Been on Proepa for three days and ST

commented on how many sounds he was trying to make not too many real words yet.

What dosage do you give your daughter?

Kim

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Tracey,

My daughter started on ProEfa at age 2 with no great results (no surges - just

her " usual " slow progress) but I kept giving it her and eventually added ProEpa

at 30 months. Her speech really started " taking off " at 32 months - ProEpa or

coincidence I'm not sure. But that is our experience. She never had any " side

effects " from taking the oil. She is now 35 months and progress is good - lots

more words and putting sentences together - however, she remains difficult to

understand by those not in the immediate family.

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Hi ,

I was curious about my son he is 33 months and has been on ProEfa for a couple

of months now with out any verbal surges. His receptive has improved

tremendously. We just added ProEpa over the past couple of days and I have seen

him at least trying some different sounds. His current dosage is 2 Proefa and 1

ProEpa. Does that seem right. He has been just recently diagnosed with verbal

apraxia and sensory seeking.

KIM

kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> wrote:

Hi Tracey and ,

There is a small percentage that the EFAs do not work for, but first

rule out that there 'may' not be an obstacle preventing the

essential fatty acids from working. Only number one is a known

fact -the other three are anecdotal in this group:

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Thanks- I tried to search the archives too with out luck. That is the dosage we

started on Tuesday. Do you mix it with anything or does just straight off the

spoon. We have been mixing with a teaspoon of yogurt or pudding. Do you know if

that can make a difference?

Thanks again,

Kim

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Hi Kim,

We used 2 Pro-Efa and 1 Pro-Epa a day. I believe I got that information from a

post of

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Kim,

You can mix it with yogurt or pudding, but I beleive you should not mix with

high saturated fats ( i.e. donuts, french fries) as this interferes with the

absorption of the Efa and Epa.

Re: [ ] Anybody using or have used Pro-E " P " A on a 2

year old??

Thanks- I tried to search the archives too with out luck. That is the dosage

we started on Tuesday. Do you mix it with anything or does just straight off the

spoon. We have been mixing with a teaspoon of yogurt or pudding. Do you know if

that can make a difference?

Thanks again,

Kim

<schoedel@...> wrote:

Hi Kim,

We used 2 Pro-Efa and 1 Pro-Epa a day. I believe I got that information from

a post of

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> 2. Is your child on a high fiber diet?

>

> (since I reported Tanner's results, it's being reported by a few

> others now that with high fiber additions like Benefiber, the EFAs

> may not work. Many children with apraxia and PDD have constipation

> problems so may be inclined to use a high fiber diet -but it may be

> better to try nectars than fiber. High fiber could be short

> chaining the long chain fatty acids in the gut according to Tanner's

> pediatric gastroenterologist)

is three, apraxic, deaf, SI, attention issues?? He has had

constipation all his life which we have mostly controlled w/ blueberries,

prune juice and then enemas when needed. About a month ago we started using

benefiber on a regular basis- about two weeks ago we STARTED switching over

to GFCF and just now removing soy because we saw a HUGE increase in stim

behaviours. (he had never had much soy and w/ move to GFCF he had much more

soy) I have proEFA sitting in the cupboard. So a few questions.....can you

explain further what you mean by a high fiber diet short chaining the long

chain's fatty acids? So the body does process them and then the gut cuts

them again??? Also- what are " nectars " ... Any other thoughts on this

situation?? has all vowels, combinations, dipthongs, etc....but when

it comes to adding vowels they are few and far between. He has finally

mastered " M " and als has " N. " We do tons of oral motor stuff too. He is

very willing to try and communiate. I feel sometimes like I am grasping at

straws...try this, try that...this doesn't work, this

might....AAAAAAHHHHH....What should we try next? We do private therapy 2X a

week and in school one on one 1X (w/ a really good thearpist.) His

preschool is a hearing impaired class and the teacher works w/ him but

concentrates on the HI part- not the apraxia. His hearing age is closer to

2 years (he got a cochlear implant at 1 year of age) but the development of

the speech is " typical " apraxia...if there is such a thing.

Amy in Mich

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Amy as a point of reference...

my son was chronically constipated until we went GFCF. However, if

casein products are a problem soy will be too and the ProEFA DOES

have soy in it. AND, since removing it a few days ago my son's

mystery rash on his neck is almost completely gone. AND, we have had

a few words the last few days. In addition to all of that he is

gaining vision through all the nutritional therapies we have done

despite a flat line ERG, which means he should be completely without

eye sight. Just thought I'd encourage your efforts.

Lynn

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