Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Tracey, My daughter started on ProEfa at age 2 with no great results (no surges - just her " usual " slow progress) but I kept giving it her and eventually added ProEpa at 30 months. Her speech really started " taking off " at 32 months - ProEpa or coincidence I'm not sure. But that is our experience. She never had any " side effects " from taking the oil. She is now 35 months and progress is good - lots more words and putting sentences together - however, she remains difficult to understand by those not in the immediate family. [ ] Anybody using or have used Pro-E " P " A on a 2 year old?? We are considering adding Pro-EPA to our 2.5 year old's 1.5 capsule a day Pro-EFA. After almost 4 months we haven't seen any dramatic effects of the Pro-EFA but there has been some slow progress. I'm a bit more nervous about adding the Pro-EPA than I was introducing the EFA and was wondering about others' experience, especially in a toddler. Thanks! ~Tracey in WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Hi Tracey and , There is a small percentage that the EFAs do not work for, but first rule out that there 'may' not be an obstacle preventing the essential fatty acids from working. Only number one is a known fact -the other three are anecdotal in this group: Do you answer yes to any of the following? 1. Does your child eat a diet that contains high amounts of saturated and trans fatty acids? (french fry and doughnut oil, fried foods and other foods that are high in the " bad " fats compromise the effectiveness of the " good " fats of the fish oil) 2. Is your child on a high fiber diet? (since I reported Tanner's results, it's being reported by a few others now that with high fiber additions like Benefiber, the EFAs may not work. Many children with apraxia and PDD have constipation problems so may be inclined to use a high fiber diet -but it may be better to try nectars than fiber. High fiber could be short chaining the long chain fatty acids in the gut according to Tanner's pediatric gastroenterologist) 3. Is your child also taking other oils like cod liver oil and/or flax? (you could be changing both the formula and dosage that is working for most. Just stick to the basic and then slowly add or tweak from there.) 4. Do you live in an area of the country or world that is very low in toxins? You would know because there are no support groups in your area, no other children -or very few -like yours around. (the EFAs are more likely to work in areas where there are higher amounts of apraxic and PDD children. The States we know for sure are high for the EFAs working are NJ and surrounding states, California, Texas, the Carolinas and Ohio.) If you answered yes to any of the above, see if you can change to a " no " (other than 4) and then see if this makes a difference. ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Hi , I just started my 33 month old on proEpa this week he too was on ProEfa at two and did not seen any verbal surges. Been on Proepa for three days and ST commented on how many sounds he was trying to make not too many real words yet. What dosage do you give your daughter? Kim <schoedel@...> wrote: Tracey, My daughter started on ProEfa at age 2 with no great results (no surges - just her " usual " slow progress) but I kept giving it her and eventually added ProEpa at 30 months. Her speech really started " taking off " at 32 months - ProEpa or coincidence I'm not sure. But that is our experience. She never had any " side effects " from taking the oil. She is now 35 months and progress is good - lots more words and putting sentences together - however, she remains difficult to understand by those not in the immediate family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Hi Kim, We used 2 Pro-Efa and 1 Pro-Epa a day. I believe I got that information from a post of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Hi , I was curious about my son he is 33 months and has been on ProEfa for a couple of months now with out any verbal surges. His receptive has improved tremendously. We just added ProEpa over the past couple of days and I have seen him at least trying some different sounds. His current dosage is 2 Proefa and 1 ProEpa. Does that seem right. He has been just recently diagnosed with verbal apraxia and sensory seeking. KIM kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> wrote: Hi Tracey and , There is a small percentage that the EFAs do not work for, but first rule out that there 'may' not be an obstacle preventing the essential fatty acids from working. Only number one is a known fact -the other three are anecdotal in this group: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Thanks- I tried to search the archives too with out luck. That is the dosage we started on Tuesday. Do you mix it with anything or does just straight off the spoon. We have been mixing with a teaspoon of yogurt or pudding. Do you know if that can make a difference? Thanks again, Kim <schoedel@...> wrote: Hi Kim, We used 2 Pro-Efa and 1 Pro-Epa a day. I believe I got that information from a post of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Kim, You can mix it with yogurt or pudding, but I beleive you should not mix with high saturated fats ( i.e. donuts, french fries) as this interferes with the absorption of the Efa and Epa. Re: [ ] Anybody using or have used Pro-E " P " A on a 2 year old?? Thanks- I tried to search the archives too with out luck. That is the dosage we started on Tuesday. Do you mix it with anything or does just straight off the spoon. We have been mixing with a teaspoon of yogurt or pudding. Do you know if that can make a difference? Thanks again, Kim <schoedel@...> wrote: Hi Kim, We used 2 Pro-Efa and 1 Pro-Epa a day. I believe I got that information from a post of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 > 2. Is your child on a high fiber diet? > > (since I reported Tanner's results, it's being reported by a few > others now that with high fiber additions like Benefiber, the EFAs > may not work. Many children with apraxia and PDD have constipation > problems so may be inclined to use a high fiber diet -but it may be > better to try nectars than fiber. High fiber could be short > chaining the long chain fatty acids in the gut according to Tanner's > pediatric gastroenterologist) is three, apraxic, deaf, SI, attention issues?? He has had constipation all his life which we have mostly controlled w/ blueberries, prune juice and then enemas when needed. About a month ago we started using benefiber on a regular basis- about two weeks ago we STARTED switching over to GFCF and just now removing soy because we saw a HUGE increase in stim behaviours. (he had never had much soy and w/ move to GFCF he had much more soy) I have proEFA sitting in the cupboard. So a few questions.....can you explain further what you mean by a high fiber diet short chaining the long chain's fatty acids? So the body does process them and then the gut cuts them again??? Also- what are " nectars " ... Any other thoughts on this situation?? has all vowels, combinations, dipthongs, etc....but when it comes to adding vowels they are few and far between. He has finally mastered " M " and als has " N. " We do tons of oral motor stuff too. He is very willing to try and communiate. I feel sometimes like I am grasping at straws...try this, try that...this doesn't work, this might....AAAAAAHHHHH....What should we try next? We do private therapy 2X a week and in school one on one 1X (w/ a really good thearpist.) His preschool is a hearing impaired class and the teacher works w/ him but concentrates on the HI part- not the apraxia. His hearing age is closer to 2 years (he got a cochlear implant at 1 year of age) but the development of the speech is " typical " apraxia...if there is such a thing. Amy in Mich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Amy as a point of reference... my son was chronically constipated until we went GFCF. However, if casein products are a problem soy will be too and the ProEFA DOES have soy in it. AND, since removing it a few days ago my son's mystery rash on his neck is almost completely gone. AND, we have had a few words the last few days. In addition to all of that he is gaining vision through all the nutritional therapies we have done despite a flat line ERG, which means he should be completely without eye sight. Just thought I'd encourage your efforts. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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