Re: Milk Substitute-Suzi

[Guest guest]

has it bad also. Actually, it comes and goes. Sometimes it is

worse than others. It gets red all over her lower legs and her

feet. She scratches them and they bleed. She's had several

bacterial infections because of it. We also give her claritan anti-

histamine when she's really bad.

Her eczema is always the worst during the summer because she loves

to swim.

This fall she got a thing called molluscum. It's little pox bumps.

I took her to the pediatrician instead of a dermatologist or the

allergist. He said to put a heavy duty steroid on it (instead of

protopic), that made the molluscum worse. She got hundreds of

molluscum bumps. The steroid cream made it worse.

We use protopic also. I also use aquaphor instead of vaseline. It

really does seem to work pretty well. We also have Cetaphil lotion.

She also has sensory issues, so it's been a battle because of the

sensory problems. Her sensory problems are a lot better in the

past year, so now she doesn't mind me putting the lotion and creams

on.

I thought the scratch test was useful. Mainly, we knew she wasn't

allergic to foods. Nothing stood out that she is allergic too, so

we don't have to eliminate anything.

I use either aveeno soap on her, or johson's baby soap.

It's a pain.

My parents always say something about it. They say " She's

scratching. Shouldn't you put something to keep her from

scratching. " When they were babysitting, they wanted to put alcohol

on her. I'm so glad they asked before they did that. It would have

hurt and made the situation worse.

Try the aveeno, and I would ask for a scratch test.

Good luck.

Suzi

[Guest guest]

Thanks Suzi,

Tonight-if we can ever get a moment alone(yeah right),

I have lots to discuss with my husband regarding

and his many " problems " . I hope he agrees to do the

scratch test. I think he will.

Good Luck,

Brock

--- " luckygmstwife <suzi_knowles@...> "

<suzi_knowles@...> wrote:

> has it bad also. Actually, it comes and goes.

> Sometimes it is

> worse than others. It gets red all over her lower

> legs and her

> feet. She scratches them and they bleed. She's had

> several

> bacterial infections because of it. We also give

> her claritan anti-

> histamine when she's really bad.

>

> Her eczema is always the worst during the summer

> because she loves

> to swim.

>

> This fall she got a thing called molluscum. It's

> little pox bumps.

> I took her to the pediatrician instead of a

> dermatologist or the

> allergist. He said to put a heavy duty steroid on

> it (instead of

> protopic), that made the molluscum worse. She got

> hundreds of

> molluscum bumps. The steroid cream made it worse.

>

> We use protopic also. I also use aquaphor instead

> of vaseline. It

> really does seem to work pretty well. We also have

> Cetaphil lotion.

>

> She also has sensory issues, so it's been a battle

> because of the

> sensory problems. Her sensory problems are a lot

> better in the

> past year, so now she doesn't mind me putting the

> lotion and creams

> on.

>

> I thought the scratch test was useful. Mainly, we

> knew she wasn't

> allergic to foods. Nothing stood out that she is

> allergic too, so

> we don't have to eliminate anything.

>

> I use either aveeno soap on her, or johson's baby

> soap.

>

> It's a pain.

>

> My parents always say something about it. They say

> " She's

> scratching. Shouldn't you put something to keep her

> from

> scratching. " When they were babysitting, they

> wanted to put alcohol

> on her. I'm so glad they asked before they did

> that. It would have

> hurt and made the situation worse.

>

> Try the aveeno, and I would ask for a scratch test.

>

>

> Good luck.

>

> Suzi

[Guest guest]

I was told that the scratch test is NOT accurate for testing food allergies,

that a blood test is the better way to go. Does anyone have any thoughts on

this?

Tammy

> I thought the scratch test was useful. Mainly, we knew she wasn't

> allergic to foods. Nothing stood out that she is allergic too, so

> we don't have to eliminate anything.

[Guest guest]

Tammy -

I can tell you that my younger son is deathly allergic to peanuts and

a scratch test was PLENTY. I've not heard what you're talking about,

but I can tell you that if you're wondering about intolerance vs.

allergy, a scratch test wouldn't show that. For instance, if you are

lactose deficient (aka " allergic to milk " ) it's not a true allergy in

that your body doesn't produce histamine in response to it. A

deficient person cannot process it correctly and it produces

digestive " issues " .

In terms of the GFCF diet, these children also cannot tolerate

glutein and casein, but it's not an allergy. A blood test would

probably determine if it was spilling into their bloodstream. I'm a

bit out of my league here - help?

Marina

> I was told that the scratch test is NOT accurate for testing food

allergies,

> that a blood test is the better way to go. Does anyone have any

thoughts on

> this?

>

> Tammy

>

> > I thought the scratch test was useful. Mainly, we knew she wasn't

> > allergic to foods. Nothing stood out that she is allergic too, so

> > we don't have to eliminate anything.

[Guest guest]

Ah, Marina, that would make sense. I had my son who has autism tested

(skin) for some allergies after his face, tongue, lips etc broke out in

hives (and swelling) after he ate some Doritos at a Special Olympics

function. While they were testing, I asked them to do the gluten and casein

as well. They were negative. We still don't know what made his face do

that either. But, I was speaking to our naturalpath who told me that the

skin tests weren't really good for indicating FOOD allergies. Perhaps he

was thinking along your lines.

Is your son allergic to only peanuts? I am curious because I was tested

probably 15 years ago now and I wasn't allergic then but I think I am now

because whenever I eat nuts of most any kind, my throat begins to hurt and

my tongue and mouth tingle and start swelling. But curiously, I still seem

to be able to eat peanut butter. That I don't understand. Maybe you do?

Thanks for your input,

Tammy

[ ] Re: Milk Substitute-Suzi

> Tammy -

> I can tell you that my younger son is deathly allergic to peanuts and

> a scratch test was PLENTY. I've not heard what you're talking about,

> but I can tell you that if you're wondering about intolerance vs.

> allergy, a scratch test wouldn't show that. For instance, if you are

> lactose deficient (aka " allergic to milk " ) it's not a true allergy in

> that your body doesn't produce histamine in response to it. A

> deficient person cannot process it correctly and it produces

> digestive " issues " .

> In terms of the GFCF diet, these children also cannot tolerate

> glutein and casein, but it's not an allergy. A blood test would

> probably determine if it was spilling into their bloodstream. I'm a

> bit out of my league here - help?

> Marina

[Guest guest]

I know that I came up positive for several different foods. Most of

mine were mild and I don't have the problems associated with a food

allergy, so I haven't changed my diet.

Suzi

> I was told that the scratch test is NOT accurate for testing food

allergies,

> that a blood test is the better way to go. Does anyone have any

thoughts on

> this?

>

> Tammy

>

> > I thought the scratch test was useful. Mainly, we knew she

wasn't

> > allergic to foods. Nothing stood out that she is allergic too,

so

> > we don't have to eliminate anything.

[Guest guest]

Hi

OK GFCF IS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALLERIGIES OR 'CONVENTIONAL'

INTOLERANCE

LOL !!!! Capitals for emphasis - i'm not shouting !!

If your child is gluten casein 'intolerant' - it is not an allergic

response and is it not coeliac - although confusingly your child

could well have these too.

With children like mine something has caused the lining of the gut to

become more leaky than it should be . This can be caused in a number

of ways like use of anti- biotic or the measles virus living in the

gut .

If the gut lining becomes leaky then the proteins in gluten and

casein will leak through the gut . If they do this they transfer in

the blood stream into caseomorphine and glutomorphine . These cause

problems when they hit the brain and have the perverse effect of

making the body crave them . Once this gut dysbiosis occurs aditional

problems may start ,including things relating to the bodies ability

to take the goodness from vitamin and mineral intake ...and also the

bodies ability to excrete toxins ( sulphation transfer) .

These things will lead to additional symptoms which may show up as

allergic type responses .

There are few specific physical symptoms beyongd the restricted food

choices , red ears/cheeks, dark circles under the eyes, loose

bowels/constipation, excesive thirst, night sweating....

Most other symptoms will be behavioural BUT a child that is getting

gluten and casein top ups all day will not usually have a big

reaction to any specific food

There are only two tests that show up this very specific

condition ..in the UK it is the test done by the ARU at the

University of Sunderland..in the States it is done at the GReat

plains laboratory and is called a urine peptides test .

Any other intolerance testing , or allergy testing ( blood or urine)

will show additional or associated problems but will NOT tell you if

your child has a leaky gut .This is a very specific condition.

I really HTH ..and really - I'm not shouting LOL !!!

Thanks for listening

Regards

Deborah

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> > I was told that the scratch test is NOT accurate for testing food

> allergies,

> > that a blood test is the better way to go. Does anyone have any

> thoughts on

> > this?

> >

> > Tammy

> >

> > > I thought the scratch test was useful. Mainly, we knew she

wasn't

> > > allergic to foods. Nothing stood out that she is allergic too,

so

> > > we don't have to eliminate anything.

[Guest guest]

Hey - peanuts are not nuts, they are legumes. If you have any

reaction to peanuts (butter or not) stay AWAY from them until you see

an allergist. What you're describing could be the precursors to an

anaphalactic reaction - kind of odd (I think) to have it happen this

late in life, but nothing to kid around with.

Also - if your reaction is to nuts (walnuts, pecans, etc.) they are

often processed with a variety of chemicals which could be causing

the reaction. Esp walnuts - which are fairly " toxic " themselves -

did you know that nothing will grow under a walnut tree because it

gives off a natural herbicide? Since you're having a reaction, I

would go see a really good allergist - food allergies shouldn't be

messed with.

Marina

> Ah, Marina, that would make sense. I had my son who has autism

tested

> (skin) for some allergies after his face, tongue, lips etc broke

out in

> hives (and swelling) after he ate some Doritos at a Special Olympics

> function. While they were testing, I asked them to do the gluten

and casein

> as well. They were negative. We still don't know what made his

face do

> that either. But, I was speaking to our naturalpath who told me

that the

> skin tests weren't really good for indicating FOOD allergies.

Perhaps he

> was thinking along your lines.

>

> Is your son allergic to only peanuts? I am curious because I was

tested

> probably 15 years ago now and I wasn't allergic then but I think I

am now

> because whenever I eat nuts of most any kind, my throat begins to

hurt and

> my tongue and mouth tingle and start swelling. But curiously, I

still seem

> to be able to eat peanut butter. That I don't understand. Maybe

you do?

>

> Thanks for your input,

> Tammy