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,

My homopathic doctor diagnosed me with Candida (from BC,

antibiotics, etc). She gave me Diflucan (30 days) and an internal

cyprical acid " purge " treatment. (None of it helped)

Do you think the diet really helped you? I keep trying to do it but

then get depressed by the pain and want to eat bad things :(

It doesn't give me a lot of hope to try such a restrictive diet when

it doesn't work in the long run.

Sorry you are worse again. I have felt like the good days almost

make it worse, because you feel like it is possible to be better,

but it just won't stay around!!!

Kathleen

>

> hi everyone,

>

> i just wanted to introduce myself. i am so happy to be here. i am

25 yrs old and none of

> my friends deal with anything like this and really don't

understand what i'm going through

> (nor any other type of chronic pain). it makes me feel really

isolated and sad.

>

> i'm not sure exactly what's going on with me. i haven't found a

decent doctor yet. i can't

> believe how unhelpful so many of them are! i don't understand it,

when there is all this

> research out there to help people in our situation, and they just

don't know anything about

> it. it is maddening...and it makes me feel like i'm the crazy one!

>

> i made an appointment with a dr. nyirjesy in philadelphia (i am in

baltimore) who is a

> vaginitis specialist. i wonder if anyone has ever seen him and

what kind of experience you

> had?

>

> about 5 years ago i had an episode like this for many months and

the pain was a lot worse

> than it is now. i eventually " cured " it (at least temporarily) by

following a super strict anti-

> candida diet for five months. i know it's a controversial thing

and a lot of people think it's

> a load of crap, and i might have too if it didn't give me such

dramatic relief after the

> doctors flat out told me they couldn't help me.

>

> so i am not new to this scene, but i was hoping it would never

come back again...

>

> anyway, it's just so nice to know you all are out there feeling

something similar to what i'm

> feeling.

>

> looking forward to talking with you all,

>

> julie

>

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kathleen--

yes, absolutely. i followed an anti-candida diet very strictly for 5 months and

all of my

vaginal syptoms were totally gone. actually they started disappearing after the

first 3

weeks. i had previously felt so bad that i thought i was dying, that i would die

because i

couldn't find a doctor to help me. i am having a relapse now, but did not have

any vaginal

symptoms at all for nearly 5 years.

i followed the book the complete candida yeast guidebook by jeanne marie martin.

however, i was not as informed then as i am now and it seems like it's possible

to not have

to follow such a strict diet if you do some serious preliminary investigating. i

recently got

connected with dr. marjorie crandall who runs yeast consulting services. i

HIGHLY

RECOMMEND you google her and order her book. she has an information packet/book

that

is the most comprehensive and useful guide to vulvodynia and related issues i

have ever

come across, by far.

it is more far more common than we're led to believe to have types of yeast that

do not

respond to diflucan, or even any of those types of medicine. so just because you

didn't

respond to that medicine doesn't mean your problems aren't yeast-related.

well, i really could go on and on about this. email me individually if you like

and i'd be

happy to share whatever i can with you.

good luck

julie

> >

> > hi everyone,

> >

> > i just wanted to introduce myself. i am so happy to be here. i am

> 25 yrs old and none of

> > my friends deal with anything like this and really don't

> understand what i'm going through

> > (nor any other type of chronic pain). it makes me feel really

> isolated and sad.

> >

> > i'm not sure exactly what's going on with me. i haven't found a

> decent doctor yet. i can't

> > believe how unhelpful so many of them are! i don't understand it,

> when there is all this

> > research out there to help people in our situation, and they just

> don't know anything about

> > it. it is maddening...and it makes me feel like i'm the crazy one!

> >

> > i made an appointment with a dr. nyirjesy in philadelphia (i am in

> baltimore) who is a

> > vaginitis specialist. i wonder if anyone has ever seen him and

> what kind of experience you

> > had?

> >

> > about 5 years ago i had an episode like this for many months and

> the pain was a lot worse

> > than it is now. i eventually " cured " it (at least temporarily) by

> following a super strict anti-

> > candida diet for five months. i know it's a controversial thing

> and a lot of people think it's

> > a load of crap, and i might have too if it didn't give me such

> dramatic relief after the

> > doctors flat out told me they couldn't help me.

> >

> > so i am not new to this scene, but i was hoping it would never

> come back again...

> >

> > anyway, it's just so nice to know you all are out there feeling

> something similar to what i'm

> > feeling.

> >

> > looking forward to talking with you all,

> >

> > julie

> >

>

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Did she culture the swab to identify the strain. Perhaps the strain you

have does not respond to Diflucan. If she didn't do a culture, perhaps you

don't have yeast at all and the doc was 'assuming' that yeast is the

problem, as many do.

Dusty

Re: intro - Candida diet

,

My homopathic doctor diagnosed me with Candida (from BC,

antibiotics, etc). She gave me Diflucan (30 days) and an internal

cyprical acid " purge " treatment. (None of it helped)

Do you think the diet really helped you? I keep trying to do it but

then get depressed by the pain and want to eat bad things :(

It doesn't give me a lot of hope to try such a restrictive diet when

it doesn't work in the long run.

Sorry you are worse again. I have felt like the good days almost

make it worse, because you feel like it is possible to be better,

but it just won't stay around!!!

Kathleen

>

> hi everyone,

>

> i just wanted to introduce myself. i am so happy to be here. i am

25 yrs old and none of

> my friends deal with anything like this and really don't

understand what i'm going through

> (nor any other type of chronic pain). it makes me feel really

isolated and sad.

>

> i'm not sure exactly what's going on with me. i haven't found a

decent doctor yet. i can't

> believe how unhelpful so many of them are! i don't understand it,

when there is all this

> research out there to help people in our situation, and they just

don't know anything about

> it. it is maddening...and it makes me feel like i'm the crazy one!

>

> i made an appointment with a dr. nyirjesy in philadelphia (i am in

baltimore) who is a

> vaginitis specialist. i wonder if anyone has ever seen him and

what kind of experience you

> had?

>

> about 5 years ago i had an episode like this for many months and

the pain was a lot worse

> than it is now. i eventually " cured " it (at least temporarily) by

following a super strict anti-

> candida diet for five months. i know it's a controversial thing

and a lot of people think it's

> a load of crap, and i might have too if it didn't give me such

dramatic relief after the

> doctors flat out told me they couldn't help me.

>

> so i am not new to this scene, but i was hoping it would never

come back again...

>

> anyway, it's just so nice to know you all are out there feeling

something similar to what i'm

> feeling.

>

> looking forward to talking with you all,

>

> julie

>

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The doc. did a stool sample and found more yeast than is normal.

That, and my symptons and past illnesses, is what led to the

diagnosis. I have never had a complete vaginal yeast culture for

different strains. I do have a appt. with a new GYN the end of

April. She comes highly recommended by my primary physician. A

complete culture/vaginal lab is one of the things I want to go over

with her. I am keeping my fingers crossed that she is one of the

open minded docs.

> >

> > hi everyone,

> >

> > i just wanted to introduce myself. i am so happy to be here. i am

> 25 yrs old and none of

> > my friends deal with anything like this and really don't

> understand what i'm going through

> > (nor any other type of chronic pain). it makes me feel really

> isolated and sad.

> >

> > i'm not sure exactly what's going on with me. i haven't found a

> decent doctor yet. i can't

> > believe how unhelpful so many of them are! i don't understand it,

> when there is all this

> > research out there to help people in our situation, and they just

> don't know anything about

> > it. it is maddening...and it makes me feel like i'm the crazy

one!

> >

> > i made an appointment with a dr. nyirjesy in philadelphia (i am

in

> baltimore) who is a

> > vaginitis specialist. i wonder if anyone has ever seen him and

> what kind of experience you

> > had?

> >

> > about 5 years ago i had an episode like this for many months and

> the pain was a lot worse

> > than it is now. i eventually " cured " it (at least temporarily) by

> following a super strict anti-

> > candida diet for five months. i know it's a controversial thing

> and a lot of people think it's

> > a load of crap, and i might have too if it didn't give me such

> dramatic relief after the

> > doctors flat out told me they couldn't help me.

> >

> > so i am not new to this scene, but i was hoping it would never

> come back again...

> >

> > anyway, it's just so nice to know you all are out there feeling

> something similar to what i'm

> > feeling.

> >

> > looking forward to talking with you all,

> >

> > julie

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, THANKS**

>

> Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders

> to search our archives, files, articles, etc.

>

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30 days of Diflucan, that's scary. I'd be afraid it would wipe out

necessary bacteria and make me worse. Are you going to continue to take it

or just wait til you see the new doc?

Are u saying this homeopathic doc cultured the stool to ascertain an

overgrowth (infection)?

Oh my, if it were me I'd forgo further treatment along this vein until I saw

a new doc.

Re: intro - Candida diet

The doc. did a stool sample and found more yeast than is normal.

That, and my symptons and past illnesses, is what led to the

diagnosis. I have never had a complete vaginal yeast culture for

different strains. I do have a appt. with a new GYN the end of

April. She comes highly recommended by my primary physician. A

complete culture/vaginal lab is one of the things I want to go over

with her. I am keeping my fingers crossed that she is one of the

open minded docs.

> >

> > hi everyone,

> >

> > i just wanted to introduce myself. i am so happy to be here. i am

> 25 yrs old and none of

> > my friends deal with anything like this and really don't

> understand what i'm going through

> > (nor any other type of chronic pain). it makes me feel really

> isolated and sad.

> >

> > i'm not sure exactly what's going on with me. i haven't found a

> decent doctor yet. i can't

> > believe how unhelpful so many of them are! i don't understand it,

> when there is all this

> > research out there to help people in our situation, and they just

> don't know anything about

> > it. it is maddening...and it makes me feel like i'm the crazy

one!

> >

> > i made an appointment with a dr. nyirjesy in philadelphia (i am

in

> baltimore) who is a

> > vaginitis specialist. i wonder if anyone has ever seen him and

> what kind of experience you

> > had?

> >

> > about 5 years ago i had an episode like this for many months and

> the pain was a lot worse

> > than it is now. i eventually " cured " it (at least temporarily) by

> following a super strict anti-

> > candida diet for five months. i know it's a controversial thing

> and a lot of people think it's

> > a load of crap, and i might have too if it didn't give me such

> dramatic relief after the

> > doctors flat out told me they couldn't help me.

> >

> > so i am not new to this scene, but i was hoping it would never

> come back again...

> >

> > anyway, it's just so nice to know you all are out there feeling

> something similar to what i'm

> > feeling.

> >

> > looking forward to talking with you all,

> >

> > julie

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, THANKS**

>

> Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders

> to search our archives, files, articles, etc.

>

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hi everyone--

i have a lot to say on these topics. i have suffered from chronic intestinal

yeast infections

as well as vaginal ones and have been through the gamut of information, tests,

treatments, etc and i am by no means a doctor (hell, but we all know that

doctors don't

always know best for us!) but i have done a ton of research and have

successfully

alleviated most of my symptoms.

i have a couple comments on recent conversations...

i know that the topic of yeast is controversial. a big reason for this is that

intestinal,

vaginal and chronic yeast overgrowth is CAUSED by medications that conventional

doctors

use, and they have a lot to lose if they admit that these medications cause

disease. also, a

couple decades ago a few uninformed, high-brow doctors who had not seen patients

with

the disease published a couple articles refuting the books and articles written

on the topic

forever depriving suffering patients of the treatment they need. " alternative "

doctors have

embraced the " theory " giving it the reputation as being an unsound diagnosis.

the thing is

that these practitioners are more open-minded about the shortfalls of

conventional

medicine and while they might not be bonified experts on the disease process at

least they

ACKNOWLEDGE that it exists.

there is solid research proving that yeast can be nestled under the skin where

it is NOT

detected by cultures, swabs, etc. and meanwhile causes inflammation, burning and

pain!

there are other tests that can be done to determine if you have yeast overgrowth

in your

body.

moreover, someone with serious yeast overgrowth will need long term treatment

with

anti-fungals and 2 days or a week of treatment is not going to be nearly enough.

in

addition, anti-fungal drugs are only one component of the necessary steps to

recovery.

also, if you've recently taken anti-fungal drugs, i.e. in the last month, all

cultures will be

negative. but that does not mean that you don't have yeast in your vaginal

tissues or

anywhere else in your body. it's just that the antifungal drugs stop it from

growing (so it

won't grow in a culture), but they don't KILL the yeast. so you're still

inflamed and in pain.

it is true also that different breeds of yeast will only respond to certain

medications, so if

you don't respond to diflucan it doesn't mean it's not yeast.

well, i could go on and on about this. if people are curious you can email me

off-list. if you

want more information on the topic i suggest you contact dr. marjorie crandall

via her

website, who has been researching this topic for more than 30 years.

julie

> > >

> > > hi everyone,

> > >

> > > i just wanted to introduce myself. i am so happy to be here. i am

> > 25 yrs old and none of

> > > my friends deal with anything like this and really don't

> > understand what i'm going through

> > > (nor any other type of chronic pain). it makes me feel really

> > isolated and sad.

> > >

> > > i'm not sure exactly what's going on with me. i haven't found a

> > decent doctor yet. i can't

> > > believe how unhelpful so many of them are! i don't understand it,

> > when there is all this

> > > research out there to help people in our situation, and they just

> > don't know anything about

> > > it. it is maddening...and it makes me feel like i'm the crazy

> one!

> > >

> > > i made an appointment with a dr. nyirjesy in philadelphia (i am

> in

> > baltimore) who is a

> > > vaginitis specialist. i wonder if anyone has ever seen him and

> > what kind of experience you

> > > had?

> > >

> > > about 5 years ago i had an episode like this for many months and

> > the pain was a lot worse

> > > than it is now. i eventually " cured " it (at least temporarily) by

> > following a super strict anti-

> > > candida diet for five months. i know it's a controversial thing

> > and a lot of people think it's

> > > a load of crap, and i might have too if it didn't give me such

> > dramatic relief after the

> > > doctors flat out told me they couldn't help me.

> > >

> > > so i am not new to this scene, but i was hoping it would never

> > come back again...

> > >

> > > anyway, it's just so nice to know you all are out there feeling

> > something similar to what i'm

> > > feeling.

> > >

> > > looking forward to talking with you all,

> > >

> > > julie

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, THANKS**

> >

> > Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders

> > to search our archives, files, articles, etc.

> >

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But, then it is also true that MANY docs will 'assume' you have standard

yeast and treat you for it when there is no problem. A 30 day course of

Diflucan without a culture to type the strain is a scary proposition in my

opinion... and may even be dangerous given its effects on the liver.

What other tests are there, as y ou note below, for determiningg yeast

overgrowth in the body? It would be interesting to read something about

this.

I have heard about the theory of 'nestled' yeast, but I have to tell you, I

haven't really read a lot that confirms it it anything more than a theory as

of yet. My docs (as least 3 of them) offered me long term Diflucan 'in

case there is some credence to this argument', even though I cultured out

negative for infection/overgrowth. This was offered to me on the first

visit to my first VV specialist and it was easy to see that it was just

someting to throw at me to make me think he was doing something for me.

Dusty

Re: intro - Candida diet

hi everyone--

i have a lot to say on these topics. i have suffered from chronic intestinal

yeast infections

as well as vaginal ones and have been through the gamut of information,

tests,

treatments, etc and i am by no means a doctor (hell, but we all know that

doctors don't

always know best for us!) but i have done a ton of research and have

successfully

alleviated most of my symptoms.

i have a couple comments on recent conversations...

i know that the topic of yeast is controversial. a big reason for this is

that intestinal,

vaginal and chronic yeast overgrowth is CAUSED by medications that

conventional doctors

use, and they have a lot to lose if they admit that these medications cause

disease. also, a

couple decades ago a few uninformed, high-brow doctors who had not seen

patients with

the disease published a couple articles refuting the books and articles

written on the topic

forever depriving suffering patients of the treatment they need.

" alternative " doctors have

embraced the " theory " giving it the reputation as being an unsound

diagnosis. the thing is

that these practitioners are more open-minded about the shortfalls of

conventional

medicine and while they might not be bonified experts on the disease process

at least they

ACKNOWLEDGE that it exists.

there is solid research proving that yeast can be nestled under the skin

where it is NOT

detected by cultures, swabs, etc. and meanwhile causes inflammation, burning

and pain!

there are other tests that can be done to determine if you have yeast

overgrowth in your

body.

moreover, someone with serious yeast overgrowth will need long term

treatment with

anti-fungals and 2 days or a week of treatment is not going to be nearly

enough. in

addition, anti-fungal drugs are only one component of the necessary steps to

recovery.

also, if you've recently taken anti-fungal drugs, i.e. in the last month,

all cultures will be

negative. but that does not mean that you don't have yeast in your vaginal

tissues or

anywhere else in your body. it's just that the antifungal drugs stop it from

growing (so it

won't grow in a culture), but they don't KILL the yeast. so you're still

inflamed and in pain.

it is true also that different breeds of yeast will only respond to certain

medications, so if

you don't respond to diflucan it doesn't mean it's not yeast.

well, i could go on and on about this. if people are curious you can email

me off-list. if you

want more information on the topic i suggest you contact dr. marjorie

crandall via her

website, who has been researching this topic for more than 30 years.

julie

> > >

> > > hi everyone,

> > >

> > > i just wanted to introduce myself. i am so happy to be here. i am

> > 25 yrs old and none of

> > > my friends deal with anything like this and really don't

> > understand what i'm going through

> > > (nor any other type of chronic pain). it makes me feel really

> > isolated and sad.

> > >

> > > i'm not sure exactly what's going on with me. i haven't found a

> > decent doctor yet. i can't

> > > believe how unhelpful so many of them are! i don't understand it,

> > when there is all this

> > > research out there to help people in our situation, and they just

> > don't know anything about

> > > it. it is maddening...and it makes me feel like i'm the crazy

> one!

> > >

> > > i made an appointment with a dr. nyirjesy in philadelphia (i am

> in

> > baltimore) who is a

> > > vaginitis specialist. i wonder if anyone has ever seen him and

> > what kind of experience you

> > > had?

> > >

> > > about 5 years ago i had an episode like this for many months and

> > the pain was a lot worse

> > > than it is now. i eventually " cured " it (at least temporarily) by

> > following a super strict anti-

> > > candida diet for five months. i know it's a controversial thing

> > and a lot of people think it's

> > > a load of crap, and i might have too if it didn't give me such

> > dramatic relief after the

> > > doctors flat out told me they couldn't help me.

> > >

> > > so i am not new to this scene, but i was hoping it would never

> > come back again...

> > >

> > > anyway, it's just so nice to know you all are out there feeling

> > something similar to what i'm

> > > feeling.

> > >

> > > looking forward to talking with you all,

> > >

> > > julie

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, THANKS**

> >

> > Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders

> > to search our archives, files, articles, etc.

> >

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Go to the Great Smokies Web Site and print

out their information about vaginal cultures. Ask your doctor to order the kit

from them. It was the best test I have ever used.

They also have the stool sample kits for

candida.

Warmly,

Anne Andis

http://www.gsdl.com/home/

Subject: Re: intro - Candida

diet

The doc. did a stool sample and found more yeast than

is normal.

That, and my symptons and past illnesses, is what

led to the

diagnosis. I have never had a complete vaginal

yeast culture for

different strains. I do have a appt. with a new

GYN the end of

April. She comes highly recommended by my primary

physician. A

complete culture/vaginal lab is one of the things

I want to go over

with her. I am keeping my fingers crossed that she

is one of the

open minded docs.

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i know there are others but all the doctors i've seen have used the great

smokies

diagnostic laboratory. they have various blood, stool and vaginal tests

also, you can take 200 mg of alpha lipoic acid daily while you are taking

diflucan,

ketoconazole or another antifungal drug to protect your liver.

someone else posted the great smokies website, but it's www.gsdl.com. also, they

will

email a list of doctors in your area who use their tests.

i know that everyone's case is different, but for me all of this stuff has been

extremely

helpful.....

julie

> > > >

> > > > hi everyone,

> > > >

> > > > i just wanted to introduce myself. i am so happy to be here. i am

> > > 25 yrs old and none of

> > > > my friends deal with anything like this and really don't

> > > understand what i'm going through

> > > > (nor any other type of chronic pain). it makes me feel really

> > > isolated and sad.

> > > >

> > > > i'm not sure exactly what's going on with me. i haven't found a

> > > decent doctor yet. i can't

> > > > believe how unhelpful so many of them are! i don't understand it,

> > > when there is all this

> > > > research out there to help people in our situation, and they just

> > > don't know anything about

> > > > it. it is maddening...and it makes me feel like i'm the crazy

> > one!

> > > >

> > > > i made an appointment with a dr. nyirjesy in philadelphia (i am

> > in

> > > baltimore) who is a

> > > > vaginitis specialist. i wonder if anyone has ever seen him and

> > > what kind of experience you

> > > > had?

> > > >

> > > > about 5 years ago i had an episode like this for many months and

> > > the pain was a lot worse

> > > > than it is now. i eventually " cured " it (at least temporarily) by

> > > following a super strict anti-

> > > > candida diet for five months. i know it's a controversial thing

> > > and a lot of people think it's

> > > > a load of crap, and i might have too if it didn't give me such

> > > dramatic relief after the

> > > > doctors flat out told me they couldn't help me.

> > > >

> > > > so i am not new to this scene, but i was hoping it would never

> > > come back again...

> > > >

> > > > anyway, it's just so nice to know you all are out there feeling

> > > something similar to what i'm

> > > > feeling.

> > > >

> > > > looking forward to talking with you all,

> > > >

> > > > julie

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, THANKS**

> > >

> > > Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders

> > > to search our archives, files, articles, etc.

> > >

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