Re: Need advice on Armour dosing...

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In a message dated 6/28/2004 12:36:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cris@... writes:

> I am on 1 grain split into 2 doses.

> I moved my 2nd dose closer to my 1st dose, and that helped me

I've written this before...but I didn't add my second dose for some time...I

felt my body needed as much as possible in the morning to begin with. At

about 2 months....I added some on in the afternoon.

Cindi

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In a message dated 6/28/2004 2:12:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> I still believe that those people

> who have no trouble upping the dosage quickly are those who had extreme

> problems with cellular resistance.

,

i think you are right. I was able to dose up fairly fast...and then had the

high hormone levels that shoulda meant I was hyper....but I'm not...and so i'm

sure i have cellular resistance/receptor resistance from being hypo for

decades.

Cindi

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i suppose my question is - should i add more now? or how long should

i wait until i add more?

thanks

shana

> In a message dated 6/28/2004 12:36:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> cris@z... writes:

>

> > I am on 1 grain split into 2 doses.

> > I moved my 2nd dose closer to my 1st dose, and that helped me

>

> I've written this before...but I didn't add my second dose for

some time...I

> felt my body needed as much as possible in the morning to begin

with. At

> about 2 months....I added some on in the afternoon.

> Cindi

>

>

>

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hi marianne.

thanks for your reply. i just called my doctor and left a message

for him, i am waiting for him to call me back. i am a little nervous

though since he didn't want to prescribe the armour in the first

place and will probably tell me to go back to synthroid - but we

will see. hoping he will up my dose a little.

thanks

shana

> You are not on enough armour. I switched from 0.75 synthriod to 1

grain

> armour. My doctor didn't know anything about it, and I took the

chart from

> the armour web site about how to convert. He only gave it to me

because I

> insisted. My feet were warm for the first time in years on the

first day. I

> felt great. The fish scales on my legs cleared up, and the cracks

I would

> get in my thumbs never came back. This was about 1 year ago. I

seemed fine

> until I stated getting my amalgams removed and my thyroid crashed

big time.

>

> Now I am on 21/2 grains of armour, and will probably need to get

to 3 in the

> end. My doc jumped me from 1-2 grains, again because I insisted,

My 3.6 TSH

> was perfectly normal according to him. Anyway jumping from 1-2

grains from

> one day to the next was too much, for a few weeks, but I didn't

know I was

> supposed to do it gradually. After finding this group and the

thyroid group,

> I am taking things into my own hands. I recently added the extra

½ grain in

> the afternoon, and it has turned me in the right direction. I am

playing

> around with a touch of T3, and recently added hydrocortisone which

is

> helping me tolerate all the armour better. I had a perfectly

normal day 2

> days ago, and over did it, but still I am far superior than I was

before. It

> was truly amazing to have continuous energy for an entire day It

truly was a

> miracle!

>

> nne

>

>

>

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> From: ptahia [mailto:ptahia@y...]

> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 12:31 PM

> To: NaturalThyroidHormones

> Subject: Re: Need advice on Armour

dosing...

>

>

>

> hi cris,

> thanks for your reply. i am on 1 grain of armour. my doctor wanted

> the bloodwork in 8 weeks from changing to armour - i don't think i

> will make it till then!

> thanks

> shana

>

>

>

>

>

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On one dosage level, you should stick with that dosage for 6 to 10 wks.

Didn't you switch off from the 125 mcgs of synthetic straight over to a full

dosage of Armour? Isn't it 90 mgs or so? I don't care what other people

say about this fast uppage of dosage, I don't agree with that. Very small

dosage increases, in small increments is the safe way to do this. When a

person has not had direct T3 before, this is too much too soon, though it

will not be eventually. The transition needs to be slower, especially where

the direct T3 is readily accepted into the body tissues, and isn't being

turned away by the body cell receptors. I still believe that those people

who have no trouble upping the dosage quickly are those who had extreme

problems with cellular resistance. I don't think that I had problems with

resistance, just with conversion from T4 to T3 (guessing here). Besides, if

you up the dose too fast, you won't know what your dosage will be that

actually makes you feel good. If you are taking one full grain of thyroid

at once, you have just introduced your body to an immediate 9 mcgs of T3

that doesn't even have to be converted and goes to work immediately in your

body. It took me months to feel anywhere near good, and it took slow,

steady dosage increases to go up. Everytime I got impatient and went up too

much, I had symptoms, and noone can tell me that it wasn't hyper

symptoms---too much too soon. I love my Armour!

Need advice on Armour dosing...

> hi,

> first i want to thank you all for your help last week.

> second, i have a new problem and i need advice on what to do.

>

> i have been on armour since last friday (about 10 days), after

> switching from .125 mcg of synthroid for about 10 years.

>

> here is what is worrying me - my morning basal body temp is 95 (in

> the armpit), and my whole body has started hurting - including an

> old case of carpal tunel which is acting up. and my head has not

> stopped hurting since switching to armour. should i be adding to my

> dosage?

> my resting pulse fluctuates between 60 and 85 depending on the time

> of day. i have no hyper symptoms. just feeling lousy.

> thanks

> shana

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thank you for your reply. as i mentioned in my last post - i am

waiting for the doctor to call me back. i am so confused though -

some do better with slow increases and others do better jumping in

head first. not quite sure what to do! i am also afraid that my

doctor will switch me back to synthroid before i gave this a really

good shot.

i guess we will see what he says.

thanks again

shana

> Shana - I was on .125 Synthroid and when I dropped that to start

on Armour,

> I began with 1 1/4 grains, as that is the conversion dose listed

on Armour's

> website. I am not going to give advice here, but I don't think

your

> doctor started you on enough Armour. Even that extra 1/4 grain

might make

> a difference. ....joan

>

>

> >>>>i am on 1 grain of armour. my doctor wanted

> the bloodwork in 8 weeks from changing to armour - i don't think i

> will make it till then!

> thanks

> shana

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I try to take mine close - but not together. I'm wondering if I should just

merge them into one dose -

and just hoping, the dr. will call the pharmacy with more!!

Cris

Subject: Re: Need advice on Armour dosing...

I've written this before...but I didn't add my second dose for some time...I

felt my body needed as much as possible in the morning to begin with. At

about 2 months....I added some on in the afternoon.

Cindi

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Hi Shana,

Having made and seen too many of us increase our dosages before the

current medication level has a chance to get established in our

bodies, I would recommend that you wait at least 3 weeks before you

increase your dosage. It takes upwards of 4 to 6 weeks for the body

to fully get used to and adjusted to the new medication. I know that

you are having symptoms that are driving you crazy but you need to

be patient with how your body adjusts to this new medicine. I don't

know how long you went without adequate levels of T3 but your body

is now getting it and it is going to take awhile to get used to it.

The pain does go away, however, like everything else, it will take

time. Please be patient!

When you do get ready to increase do the increasing slowly...1/4

grain at a time...at the most ½ grain perhaps in the beginning. If

you do increase by 1/2 grain then definitely give the new dosage at

least 3, preferably 4 weeks before you decide to increase again...

Remember, healing these bodies will take time...very much like the

Tortoise and the Hare.

Gossimer

> i suppose my question is - should i add more now? or how long

should

> i wait until i add more?

> thanks

> shana