Re: Re: discussing thyroid...some news I found

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Thanks Sammie, I will keep that in mind. So an hour before or after is cool

to have some soy stuff.

kk. Gotcha. Whew!

I feel much better. Didn't wanna have to dump out all that soy milk I

bought!

Tam

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Several years ago I read of a study done in Hawaii about the effect of soy

consumption on cognition in men. They found the more soy eaten, the bigger the

effect on the men's brains. Negative effect.

I have seen the study referenced elsewhere, but nothing about additional

research. It was enough for me anyway; I do not look for ways to incorporate

soy into my WOE. Nor do I throw away those little pieces of tofu found in soup

at Asian restaurants.

OTOH, fermented soy products are supposed to be good. So once in a while, we

have miso at home.

BTW, I have no thyroid. Tho taking your medication at twoish in the morning is

a good idea, if something is interfering with the absorption of the hormone on a

*regular* basis, the doctor will adjust the dosage until the desired result is

obtained.

Helen

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Actually I think it is 1 hour before or 2 hours after but I am not sure!

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Re: Re: discussing thyroid...some news I found

Thanks Sammie, I will keep that in mind. So an hour before or after is cool

to have some soy stuff.

kk. Gotcha. Whew!

I feel much better. Didn't wanna have to dump out all that soy milk I

bought!

Tam

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Helen Mueller wrote

> Several years ago I read of a study done in Hawaii about the effect of soy

> consumption on cognition in men. They found the more soy eaten, the

bigger the

> effect on the men's brains. Negative effect.>

> I have seen the study referenced elsewhere, but nothing about additional

> research.>

Several papers were presented at a conference on soy products. The one you

cited could be

http://www.soyfoods.com/3rdSoySymp/Association.html

Other papers on Cognition & Soy were also in Session 8

http://www.soyfoods.com/3rdSoySymp/abstracts.html

The men and their wives were studied - and they had high tofu consumption -

midlife. So I suspect it's OK if it is a small amount of soy.

I do have Hashimotos thyroiditis = hypothyroidism, and I also have had

breast cancer and so I have two reasons to not use soy products. However, I

do eat soy - in small quantities - in the low GI Burgen Soy Lin bread

available here in Australia. I used to take a month to eat a loaf but have

increased my consumption to about a slice a day because I needed to increase

my fiber (over and above about 3 cups of raw green veg in salad or cooked

for dinner) As always one has to try to balance out what is best to suit

one's own body and various diagnoses.

Bea

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SulaBlue asked

> Bea,

> I'm just curious why you are turning to bread for fiber?

> I don't know much about thyroiditis, and what foods aren't allowed, so,

feel free to tell me

> " But I shouldn't eat THAT either! "

> What about flax seed, low-glycemic citrus fruits, blueberries, peanuts,

beans & legumes,

> various squashes, apples, etc.?>

Since being diagnosed with DM2 and Hashimotos in March 2001 I have basically

eaten a low GI diet and gained fairly good control of BGs. Average 2 hour PP

readings for about the last three years = 120.

The foods you mentioned are all part of my food plan with the exception of

blue berries which are generally not available here (Gold coast Australia)

(except very expensive frozen). I eat strawberries, and almonds nearly every

day.

However, for about 18 months I had what I describe as projectile diarrhoea

about every 3 to 6 weeks. It was not related to the foods just eaten, or to

meds so I decided to check out colon cancer etc (I've had breast cancer - so

at greater risk). The colo/rectal surgeon did several tests including a

colonoscopy in June. I did some biofeedback training to retrain the relevant

muscles, and he said although I already had alot of fiber in my diet that I

should add more grains etc. He had seen my BG graphs (FBG, 2 hour PP, etc)

and my meal plans - so said to try adding more grains as bread, and also

cooked in other meals.

Since I use the Glycemic Index and weigh most foods and calculate Glycemic

Loads the easiest thing to do was to add more of the low GI bread. Initially

I changed to 2 slices a day - but now it's more like 2 slices every two

days - meaning that sometimes I will have none, and then 2 the next day. So

far it's working. No more diarrhoea.

The other part of my self management is of course exercise - and I really do

best when I walk about 3.4 miles a day. Hopefull when I build up to that

again my BGs and other tests will again drop into the normal range.

Bea