Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 My question would be: why not? All the previous discussion about doctors not knowing much (or the right stuff) about diabetes notwithstanding, they still know a heckuvalot more than the rest of us about medicine. Connie > > Hi all, I'm Helga's husband and I have a question about my father . He is > diabetic and 83 years old, and has transitional cell kidney cancer. His > doctor insists that he needs to be taking Zocor to protect his heart, > because he is diabetic. I don't think it is going to make any difference > considering his age and the fact that he will be lucky to live another 7 > to > 10 years. Your thoughts please. Sincerely > > > > Re your last paragraph, you didn't mean you were cured; you meant the > doctor told you you were cured, right, Helen? Just wanted this to be > Real Clear, smile. > Vicki > >> > >> >> I take UL only once a day; just before bedtime. And I used Ron's > chart, >> posted several years ago on world, to work that out. It was an >> absorption chart and is included in the archives of DSM, which used to >> be LC-D when it was on St. 's. >> >> Once I am past morning IR and rises, I need little UL until bedtime. >> Then the bedtime shot carries me thru the night and right up to > noonish. >> >> Now as to becoming a type 1. LADAs, such as Vicki, can have very long >> honeymoon periods leading the doctors to diagnose them as 2s. >> Eventually, the honeymoon is over, nothing works but insulin, the >> C-peptide is under .5 and it is " discovered " they are really type 1s. >> >> And doctors telling you that you are cured? Unfortunately, it truly >> does happen; it happened to me. My doctor at the time was as close to > a >> diabetologist as you could get here and he made a point of telling how >> unusual I was. That's why today I use insulin, actos and metformin. >> >> A short term cure! ;-) >> >> Helen >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Honestly Connie? Not always. I see my GP about my diabetes, not a specialist (partly because I'm in relatively good control on very little medication, and partly because, well gee... what the folks down at the diabetic training told me MADE MY BS WORSE! It was utterly nonsensical. Here they are, talking about how all sugar is carbs, and all carbs raise blood sugar, and then in the next breath telling me to eat up to 45g of carbs PER MEAL? I spoke with my GP about supplements for helping to control my diabetes. I brought in my research materials. Luckily, unlike some doctors who freak at the idea of natural medicines, he looked it over briefly, told me that I'd obviously done my homework and that I probably knew more about what I was wanting to do than he did. He gave me the go-ahead to try it, replacing one of my meds (Glucophage or Glucotrol, I never can remember) that was making me sick to my stomach with an alternative medicine, so long as I checked religiously, and let him know how it worked. Turns out, it worked GREAT. As to the " why not " when it comes to Zocor? There's been too many recalls of TOO many drugs lately to make me feel safe taking anything that hasn't been on the market for at least 5 years. Statins seem to rank right up there high amongst the drugs with recalls. I watched what my mother went through, with *each and every* statin she took. She got such muscle weakness and joint pain that she could barely put on her bra. I told my doc I'd rather have the heart attack than live like that, and have refused all statin drugs. Thankfully my cholesterol levels are reasonable. (LDL *just* over 100, total cholesterol hovering at around 200). Now that I've changed my diet and cut down on carbs and fast food, those numbers should improve dramatically. Adding to this is the cost of the medication, which can add up quick if you're on several different meds. SulaBlue > My question would be: why not? > > All the previous discussion about doctors not knowing much (or the right > stuff) about diabetes notwithstanding, they still know a heckuvalot more > than the rest of us about medicine. > > Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 What a great answer, attitude and approach. Thx, Carol. Sandy T1 - 1979 >Hi - My husband died of cancer. For the last 18 months of his life >we had a rule - if it isn't fun, we don't do it. That applied to >medications also. Anything that could or would cause more discomfort or >pain than he already had to deal with was an absolute no-no. We >rejected any medication with potential digestive or intestinal side >effects because there were already plenty of those from the chemo and >radiation. His cancer was incurable, and your father may be in a >different situation. Ultimately you and your father have to make the >decision, so I can only tell about our experience. > >Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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