Re: Intro

[Guest guest]

Donna, I wish you the best of luck! You have made a giant step towards a

healthy life and I don't know you, but I am proud of you!!! We are all

here to help you and give you support and advice. I don't think it matters

where any of us start, we all have the same goal, and we all can get there,

as long as we have each other!!! Please let me know if there is ever

anything I can help you with!

[Guest guest]

Well, I just tried the bread recipe on the back of the Adkins bake mix

can. Yuck! Does anyone have a receipe that actually tastes like bread?

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanne Welcome there are several web sites in out bookmarks

section start there for ideas and s cookbooks in the shared

files. :)Sue

--- savagegarden@... wrote:

> From: savagegarden@...

>

> Hello Everyone!

> My name is Jeannie, I'm 31,and live in So. Florida

> with my son and parents

> and am new to the list. I have just started on the

> Adkins plan today. I

> have tried so many diets that haven't worked and I'm

> a little discouraged.

> I have decided to try Adkins because my Best Friends

> dad has been doing it

> for a while and has lost 100 pounds and kept them

> off. I hope to get the

> same results, if possible.

> Does anyone have any advise for the newbie on how

> to plan meals within the

> induction diet guidelines? Any help would be

> appreciated!!!

> Jeannie

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanie

I went to welcome you to the group I just started last week and Thursday

I well weigh and see how much I lost on my first week it the easy diet I have

ever been on you well love it welcome from Terri

[Guest guest]

My father is pill dependent diabetic bordering insulin his dr

gave him 2 weeks to get it under control he turn to me for help I put

him on this diet and he is doing well he started with a sugar level of

240 after 3 days now he is on 195. So for him it is lowering his

sugar levels. Sue

--- wrote:

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I just joined the list about a week ago. My name is

> and live I

> in Southwestern Michigan. I've been on a lowcarb

> diet for a couple of

> weeks and just recently was diagnosed with

> Diabetes--not really high

> glucose readings, but high enough. For those of you

> who are diabetic,

> how does the Atkins diet work for you and how does

> it effect your

> glucose? I feel a lot better on a lowcarb diet and

> am not craving

> carbohydrates as much now.

>

>

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I just joined this list. I have a 14 year old son ( Ty) who has CF I think?

He had a pos. sweat test at 18 mo and was treated at the local hosp then at

9 he was admitted and re tested and tested neg. then they genotyped him but

this was before they had discovered the varaints and he tested neg there

also so they refused to treat him unless he was actually sick. He has yearly

broncitas, pnomonia, weight gain problems ( before the neg sweats he was

finally gaining weight on pancrese). Weve lived in the midwest very rural

and had no contact with a CF center. This month we moved to a biger city in

Washington, cross country and they have a CF center and he will be going

there next week. Our new next door neighbor has a child with CF and they

are introducing us. Ty has lost over 10 lbs in the last 6 weeks and altho

most time only has a mild caugh unless its winter, he's starting early this

year. He also has schizoaffective disorder bipolar. so is on meds for that.

the broncodialater evelate his mood too high and cause him to be psychotic.

So thats where were starting from. Im fairly ininformed and out of date with

info about CF and I know they have made big changes since 1992 when ty quit

being treated. I guess were hoping for a clearer answer this time. I also

have an older son 16 that is schizoaffective schizophrenic. We have never

had any contact with other families dealing with CF and hope to learn from

this group. if anyone has any ideas or information on being dignosed and un

dignosed and dignosed again please let me know. have a good night cheryl

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

Welcome to the list. Your story is disturbing. I think you may have a good

malpractice case. Have you talked to an attorney? I'm a lawyer but I don't do

malpractice work. I simply cannot believe that a child was treated with such

reckless disregard for his health. Anyone who knows anything about CF

genotyping knows that you cannot use it to eliminate CF as a diagnosis because

of all the unknown genotypes. You should sue.

Janet

meanredhead@... on 10/29/99 02:22:00 AM

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Subject: Re: intro

Hi everyone,

I just joined this list. I have a 14 year old son ( Ty) who has CF I think?

He had a pos. sweat test at 18 mo and was treated at the local hosp then at

9 he was admitted and re tested and tested neg. then they genotyped him but

this was before they had discovered the varaints and he tested neg there

also so they refused to treat him unless he was actually sick. He has yearly

broncitas, pnomonia, weight gain problems ( before the neg sweats he was

finally gaining weight on pancrese). Weve lived in the midwest very rural

and had no contact with a CF center. This month we moved to a biger city in

Washington, cross country and they have a CF center and he will be going

there next week. Our new next door neighbor has a child with CF and they

are introducing us. Ty has lost over 10 lbs in the last 6 weeks and altho

most time only has a mild caugh unless its winter, he's starting early this

year. He also has schizoaffective disorder bipolar. so is on meds for that.

the broncodialater evelate his mood too high and cause him to be psychotic.

So thats where were starting from. Im fairly ininformed and out of date with

info about CF and I know they have made big changes since 1992 when ty quit

being treated. I guess were hoping for a clearer answer this time. I also

have an older son 16 that is schizoaffective schizophrenic. We have never

had any contact with other families dealing with CF and hope to learn from

this group. if anyone has any ideas or information on being dignosed and un

dignosed and dignosed again please let me know. have a good night cheryl

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[Guest guest]

Hi

I know we have spoken on the other lists but I think its great you are doing

both things! I personally dont do the b/c thing and we let God control our

family planning......for us it happened quickly as you know, but there are

others it hasnt. GOD IS IN CONTROL.

When I found out I was pregnant too soon (accd. to my surgeon who called me a

moron!) I was getting terrified. But God has taken this lil baby and kept

him the whole time and helped me eat so he could grow big and me stay small.

I LOVE IT!

When you trust God you cant go wrong, JMHO!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 02/21/2001 1:32:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,

drasley@... writes:

<< please don't be stupid or

selfish and put your needs ahead of the baby you want. >>

I personally dont think you need to call people STUPID or SELFISH for

following what they think/know is right in their hearts with GOD.

I understand your position on this, but you need to understand mine and many

others on here......we dont use b/c and wont. We trust God knows more than

any dr. and can care for our babies. Thats our opinion.

Please, think about what you say and how it comes across to others with

different views.....there many on here I dont agree with, but I dont point it

out.

[Guest guest]

do your research and know everything you can pack into that head of

yours!!! listen to your doc. it is good if you can wait, do your best

because even when they tell you that you cant have kids before...things

start working unexpectedly. accidents happen and we live through them with

or without incident. stick around. you can get lots of info from this

group.

julie

Re: Intro

Thank you for the information. I really appreciate all views on

this. I was hoping that 6 months was ok to wait but maybe not. I was

writing trying to find out if a year is the normal to wait. I have

waited for 12 years to have a baby and all my life to be thinner. So

I guess waiting another year for a baby won't kill me but all the

extra weight will. So I guess we will be using protection. I was

looking for support and I did not get upset with your post until you

said about be " stupid " . I don't mean to un informed that is why I

came looking for information not because I am stupid. Again thanks

and God bless you for giving me advice

VIctoria

:

> Please don't get upset at what I am going to say however USE

PROTECTION! If

> you don't you will be risking the life of your unborn child. The

surgeon

> makes the recommendation for a reason -- fetal malnutrition is a

BIG concern

> after this surgery until the mother is taking in adequate amounts

of food to

> support herself and her child. Yes the fetus willt ake what it

needs but

> that means you will suffer and that still may not be enough for the

fetus to

> thrive. If you don't feel like you can use protection, then delay

the tubal

> ligation until it is safe for you to get pregnant. According to

BTC, there

> is a 95% higher chance of miscarriage for women who get pregnant

too early.

> Not to mention the health problems and such. You need to listen to

your

> surgeon! you need to. If you can't do that, then you really

shouldn't be

> having the surgery. That may be harsh but this surgery is a major

operation.

> It takes time to recover and time to lose the weight. Wait until

your

> surgeon clears you. he may clear you earlier than a year. But you

need to

> wait. You don't know how the surgery itself is going to affect you

let alone

> any baby you bring into the world. Pregnancy is safe after surgery

and can

> be perfectly normal but you need to wait until you have stopped or

slowed

> your weight loss and the surgeon gives clearance. please don't be

stupid or

> selfish and put your needs ahead of the baby you want.

>

> Rasley

> mailto:drasley@c...

> BTC, Columbus, 10/7/98

> Lost over 90% of excess and maintaining

> Gained a beautiful daughter on 8/9/00

>

> >

> >

>

Children are a reward from the Lord.

Psalm 127:3

[Guest guest]

Hi .

My name is Patti , I had my surgery last Nov 27th

and I have lost 76lbs so far, I too want a baby so bad,

but my surgeon highly recommends waiting for 1 year, to

lessen the risk to the baby, I totally understand how

hard this wait can be, my husband has tried to get me to

just see what happens but I know that that is not the

best thing for the baby or me, so we have 9 months to

go. I just wanted to wish you lots of luck on both your

surgeries, and welcome to the group.

Patti

11/27/00

open RNY/Fobi pouch

down 76lbs

>

>

>

> I would like to introduce myself. I am going to have WLS on June

> 18th. Let me back up just a little. I am having my tubal reversal

> hopefully in APril. I have two children 16 and 12. I have wanted a

> baby for so long but had my tubes tied 12 years ago. So I am having

> it reversed. But I wanted also to be skinny. So it seems that I am

> going to Have WLS on June 18th and TR in APril. I am trying to find

> out if I can have a baby right away or not. My Surgeom says wait a

> year before trying and I don't know if I can wait that long. I was

> going to put it in the Lords hands and not use in protection after

> the surgery in JUNE. So can anyone help me and give me any advice.

>

>

> Thanks so much for letting me join

>

>

>

>

>

> Children are a reward from the Lord.

> Psalm 127:3

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI

There are many factors that affect when it is good for you to conceive.

It's not a standard 12 months coz it has to do with rate of loss and total

loss you are hoping for. than there are all the other family planning

issues that anyone should consider, size of family, age, economics, etc.

My surgeon originally said 12 mos than revised that based on how great my

loss and labs were. Since I was 40 we did not think it was wise to wait

any longer. I conceived at about8-9 mos post op and had an incredibly

healthy pregnancy. I agree with the fact that your surgeon's reco is

important but I think there are many factors that should be considered and

you and your husband should decide what is best for you. Happy trying.

Lenore

At 07:08 PM 2/21/01 +0000, you wrote:

>

>

> Thank you for the information. I really appreciate all views on

>this. I was hoping that 6 months was ok to wait but maybe not. I was

>writing trying to find out if a year is the normal to wait. I have

>waited for 12 years to have a baby and all my life to be thinner. So

>I guess waiting another year for a baby won't kill me but all the

>extra weight will. So I guess we will be using protection. I was

>looking for support and I did not get upset with your post until you

>said about be " stupid " . I don't mean to un informed that is why I

>came looking for information not because I am stupid. Again thanks

>and God bless you for giving me advice

>

>VIctoria

>

>

>:

>> Please don't get upset at what I am going to say however USE

>PROTECTION! If

>> you don't you will be risking the life of your unborn child. The

>surgeon

>> makes the recommendation for a reason -- fetal malnutrition is a

>BIG concern

>> after this surgery until the mother is taking in adequate amounts

>of food to

>> support herself and her child. Yes the fetus willt ake what it

>needs but

>> that means you will suffer and that still may not be enough for the

>fetus to

>> thrive. If you don't feel like you can use protection, then delay

>the tubal

>> ligation until it is safe for you to get pregnant. According to

>BTC, there

>> is a 95% higher chance of miscarriage for women who get pregnant

>too early.

>> Not to mention the health problems and such. You need to listen to

>your

>> surgeon! you need to. If you can't do that, then you really

>shouldn't be

>> having the surgery. That may be harsh but this surgery is a major

>operation.

>> It takes time to recover and time to lose the weight. Wait until

>your

>> surgeon clears you. he may clear you earlier than a year. But you

>need to

>> wait. You don't know how the surgery itself is going to affect you

>let alone

>> any baby you bring into the world. Pregnancy is safe after surgery

>and can

>> be perfectly normal but you need to wait until you have stopped or

>slowed

>> your weight loss and the surgeon gives clearance. please don't be

>stupid or

>> selfish and put your needs ahead of the baby you want.

>>

>> Rasley

>> mailto:drasley@c...

>> BTC, Columbus, 10/7/98

>> Lost over 90% of excess and maintaining

>> Gained a beautiful daughter on 8/9/00

>>

>> >

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>Children are a reward from the Lord.

>Psalm 127:3

>

>

[Guest guest]

cant they do both surgeries at once? that would seem the best instead of

putting you out twice in that short time frame. as far as a baby, i would

wait. i got preg 3 months out and i didnt have any trouble. it caused

great, great concern through the whole thing though.

welcome and stick around.

julie

Intro

I would like to introduce myself. I am going to have WLS on June

18th. Let me back up just a little. I am having my tubal reversal

hopefully in APril. I have two children 16 and 12. I have wanted a

baby for so long but had my tubes tied 12 years ago. So I am having

it reversed. But I wanted also to be skinny. So it seems that I am

going to Have WLS on June 18th and TR in APril. I am trying to find

out if I can have a baby right away or not. My Surgeom says wait a

year before trying and I don't know if I can wait that long. I was

going to put it in the Lords hands and not use in protection after

the surgery in JUNE. So can anyone help me and give me any advice.

Thanks so much for letting me join

Children are a reward from the Lord.

Psalm 127:3

[Guest guest]

i still cant believe a doc would actually call someone a moron. i think he

better look in a mirror himself.

julie

Re: Intro

Hi

I know we have spoken on the other lists but I think its great you are doing

both things! I personally dont do the b/c thing and we let God control our

family planning......for us it happened quickly as you know, but there are

others it hasnt. GOD IS IN CONTROL.

When I found out I was pregnant too soon (accd. to my surgeon who called me

a

moron!) I was getting terrified. But God has taken this lil baby and kept

him the whole time and helped me eat so he could grow big and me stay small.

I LOVE IT!

When you trust God you cant go wrong, JMHO!

Children are a reward from the Lord.

Psalm 127:3

[Guest guest]

--

No, The tubal reversal is being done by a specialist and my WLS

surgeon is someone else. The do tubal ligations the same time but

they do not due reversals. I really wanted my TR done after WLS but I

dont't have a choice of to many days.

- In OSSG-pregnant@y..., " Schaub, D. " <schaub.julie@m...> wrote:

> cant they do both surgeries at once? that would seem the best

instead of

> putting you out twice in that short time frame. as far as a baby,

i would

> wait. i got preg 3 months out and i didnt have any trouble. it

caused

> great, great concern through the whole thing though.

> welcome and stick around.

> julie

>

> Intro

>

>

>

>

>

> I would like to introduce myself. I am going to have WLS on June

> 18th. Let me back up just a little. I am having my tubal reversal

> hopefully in APril. I have two children 16 and 12. I have wanted a

> baby for so long but had my tubes tied 12 years ago. So I am having

> it reversed. But I wanted also to be skinny. So it seems that I am

> going to Have WLS on June 18th and TR in APril. I am trying to find

> out if I can have a baby right away or not. My Surgeom says wait a

> year before trying and I don't know if I can wait that long. I was

> going to put it in the Lords hands and not use in protection after

> the surgery in JUNE. So can anyone help me and give me any advice.

>

>

> Thanks so much for letting me join

>

>

>

>

>

> Children are a reward from the Lord.

> Psalm 127:3

>

>

[Guest guest]

julie

yes, my dr does NOT have good beside manner....but is a good surgeon! lol

teresa

[Guest guest]

ok, sorry. i guess that makes sense.

julie

Intro

>

>

>

>

>

> I would like to introduce myself. I am going to have WLS on June

> 18th. Let me back up just a little. I am having my tubal reversal

> hopefully in APril. I have two children 16 and 12. I have wanted a

> baby for so long but had my tubes tied 12 years ago. So I am having

> it reversed. But I wanted also to be skinny. So it seems that I am

> going to Have WLS on June 18th and TR in APril. I am trying to find

> out if I can have a baby right away or not. My Surgeom says wait a

> year before trying and I don't know if I can wait that long. I was

> going to put it in the Lords hands and not use in protection after

> the surgery in JUNE. So can anyone help me and give me any advice.

>

>

> Thanks so much for letting me join

>

>

>

>

>

> Children are a reward from the Lord.

> Psalm 127:3

>

>

[Guest guest]

that helps too. my psychologist always told me that i dont have to be her

best friend( the surgeon) but she just needs to get the surgery done!!

julie

Re: Intro

julie

yes, my dr does NOT have good beside manner....but is a good surgeon! lol

teresa

Children are a reward from the Lord.

Psalm 127:3

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I am not sure how to email you privately but I think I am okay in forwarding

this info on the list.

I am also from the Twin Cities. My 22 yr old attends DBT in Eagan at BHSI,

Behavioral Health Services Inc. The number is: . I also have

wondered if it would be helpful to start a support group for us parents of BPD

children here in the Twin Cities area. If there is an interest I would be glad

to find a space and time.

Good luck. Let me know if I can be of any other help.

K.

Intro

Hi listers,

My husband and I are parents of three beautiful daughters, ages 15,

14, and 11. The oldest daughter has a new diagnosis of (probably) BPD

after two hospitalizations. The first was for depression, anorexia and

cutting behavior, and she's currently hospitalized for a suicide

attempt last week (slashed her wrists). We knew that the ED was going

to be long-term and luckly that seems to be under control, but the

discussion of this new piece (the BPD) is pretty over-whelming. We've

only been dealing with this for a matter of months, but we see in

front of us what could be a very long row to hoe, and it feels pretty

scary. The hospital staff believe she had a pact w/ another patient

who is currently hospitalized with her, and she denies it. She was

seemingly just fine and then within the hour the paramedics were at

our door, so this is bizarre and terrifying. The long-term piece is so

scary-- if we can get her that far without her being successful at a

suicide attempt.

They're recommending DBT and I'm supposed to be researching treatment

options. Any encouragement, recommendations, or ideas would be really

helpful. I'm just starting my " homework " on this piece. I live in the

Twin Cities, so if anyone has local treatment recommendations, please

contact me privately.

I'm glad you guys are here. We found the ED bb's extremely helpful.

This really does feel like a different country, but I guess, like they

say on the ED bb, " Welcome to the club that no one wants to join " . :-)

Thanks,

B

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