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At 06:25 PM 3/18/2001 -0800, you wrote:

>Yes, all carbs need to be counted. I think that is where a lot of people run

>into trouble... they just aren't awre of how many carbs they are actually

>getting.

then why the heck does the book list them as free???? (not coming down on

you here it's just frustrating) ;O) I imagine there isn't an egg that

doesn't have a gram of carb in it so why list it as free?

Sue (showing her ignorance)

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(not yelling, just being sarcastic....lol) Nothing in life is free. Everytime

we think it is.... wham we get hit with a doulbe whammy...

On the otherhand... you *could* technicaly eat about 40 eggs a day and be at

about 20 carbs (.5 each) So I guess in that aspect it is unlimited... I know

that as much as I like them, I couldn't eat that many! :)

I think, though I'm not positive, he does reccommend no more than 4 ounces a

day.

--- Sue Huls wrote:

> At 06:25 PM 3/18/2001 -0800, you wrote:

> >Yes, all carbs need to be counted. I think that is where a lot of people

> run

> >into trouble... they just aren't awre of how many carbs they are actually

> >getting.

>

>

> then why the heck does the book list them as free???? (not coming down on

> you here it's just frustrating) ;O) I imagine there isn't an egg that

> doesn't have a gram of carb in it so why list it as free?

>

> Sue (showing her ignorance)

>

>

>

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Kathy :)

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This completely unglued me, too, and wigged out my first few days of induction. Some things are not so clear in the beginning, I find there is *so* much to remember and learn - every day I have learned something else. Good luck Sue!

Shirley - in day 6 and finally feeling better :)

then why the heck does the book list them as free???? (not coming down on you here it's just frustrating) ;O) I imagine there isn't an egg that doesn't have a gram of carb in it so why list it as free?Sue (showing her ignorance)

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  • 1 year later...

just an observation here, but whatever you ³prescribe² should you tell the

person to see their Dr. Before they increase their meds and therefore run

out of them...

rebecca

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You can only decide how you're going to live. "

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> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:40:35 -0000

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> Subject: Re: carbohydrate counting

>

> Hi Kay,

>

> I would if I were you cut my carbohydrate intake in half and increase

> my Glucophage intake to 1500 mg a day and see if that doesn't snap

> your glucose readings into a healthier range. If that doesn't do it,

> you have the choice of bumping your Glucophage up to a max. of 2550

> mg a day, or cutting your carb intake back even further.

>

> Susie

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I'm absolutely convinced insulin does NOT cause weight gain. I think doctors

think this because they see it in their diabetic patients...and the reason

diabetic patients gain weight on insulin because with insulin you can pretty

much eat what you want and dose for it. So diabetics do. So they gain

weight.

IMHO, this is an abuse of insulin. I take insulin. I also watch my carbs

and my portion size. I have been steady at 141 for two plus years now. (I'm

5'8 " ) Before that I was underweight and needed to gain weight so I increased

my nuts and cheese consumption (these were the only non-carby foods I could

think of). When I got to the weight I wanted, I cut out the nuts and cheeses.

(It was hard though, I really developed a taste for 'em).

Vicki, LADA type 1

In a message dated 02/26/2003 7:38:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

humbug_1933@... writes:

> My glucose readings average 169 over the last 15 days, and I check

> several times a day. This despite an increasingly tight control of

> carbohydrate intake. He thinks insulin does cause weight gain and

> heaven knows I don't need that.

>

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Thanks to you both, I went in to the doctor today and showed him my

food intake chart, and my blood glucose readings which are graphed

simultaneously on the same page, and he increased my metformin to

three times a day. He says he doesn't mind patients who suggest

things to him, and is thinking of avandia if the metformin doesn't

work. Anyone take avandia?

My glucose readings average 169 over the last 15 days, and I check

several times a day. This despite an increasingly tight control of

carbohydrate intake. He thinks insulin does cause weight gain and

heaven knows I don't need that.

Kay J. (humbug)

>

> << whatever you ³prescribe² should you tell the person to see their

> Dr. Before they increase their meds and therefore run out of them.

>>

>

> , go to http://rxlist.com The minimum effective dose for

> Glucophage/Metformin is 1500 mg daily. It isn't my fault that

doctors

> don't know their stuff. I urge diabetics to do internet research,

as

> well as check things out with their pharmacists, who know a helluva

> lot more about meds than doctors do.

>

> Susie

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Kay W. wrote:

<< Thanks so much. I thought Dr. Atkins' was all hooey! lol >>

I first read " Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution " in 1997. I wasn't

completely sold at first, but my respect for Dr. Atkins has grown

over the years. He continues to refine his thinking, on his website

and in his public appearances. He submits to interviews, even when

the interviewer is openly hostile, in an effort to get the word out.

He has crusaded to improve our diet for, I guess, 30 years. He offers

studies which support his approach, and in fact is funding studies.

He published a new book, " Atkins for Life, " that I'm reading right

now. His eating and exercise recommendations would apply to both

diabetics and obese non-diabetics. Adopting many of his

recommendations has certainly improved my health outlook.

Susie

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No, no, you got it quite wrong (along with many other folks). Ketoacidosis

is a dangerous diabetic state resulting from prolonged high BGs. You end up

in the hospital with that. However, what Dr. Atkins' diet propounds is

KETOSIS. Which is a benign condition and quite different.

Vicki

In a message dated 03/03/2003 10:06:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

wwin98@... writes:

> I guess I remember his all protein and fat diet back in the 1970's where you

> were put into a state of ketoacidosis.

> Kay W.

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