Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Sange: Hi! We went through somethig similar when our son Joe was 2 1/2. First off, I would go to a developmental pediatrician before going to a neurologist. A developmental doctor will evaluate your son from different perspectives. Our doctor, Dr. Agin, put together a comprehensive plan for us to help Joe and made recommendations for exams by specialists, like a neurolgist, at the appropriate times. To me, a developmental doctor is a good springboard to handle issues from. I don't know how to explain it except to say a developmental doctor will look at your whole child, not just one piece of him. My wife also did not want Joe to have a diagnosis because she felt the PDD/apraxia label would follow Joe for the rest of his life, that he would always be treated as different because he was labeled in the autistic spectrum. I have to admit there is some of that danger when dealing with a school or a district. The flip side, especially for us, is soemtimes the diagnosis makes it easier or even possible to get servces your child needs. We went to Dr. Agin to get a final determination if our son was apraxic or not after EI evaluators, a psychologist and at least two speech therapists were unable to give us a definitive answer. The PDD and apraxia diagnosis made it possible for us to get oral motor therapy outside of the school. At one point, in EI, we had 7 hours of speech therapy (counting the oral motor) which we were told was unheard of. The combination of diagnoses allowed us to argue that our school district to keep the level at 5 hours of speech during Joe's first year of CPSE; he is now down to 3 hours due to his improvement. Without the apraxia diagnosis, I doubt we would have been given the services Joe needed to begin talking. Our goal, set with Dr. Agin, is to have Joe mainstreamed in the next 2-3 years. So, while I don't personally agree with labels, a diagnosis may be beneficial to you as a basis to obtain services. There are people on this site whose knowledge far exceeds mine on the subject of what it means to walk into your EI or CPSE meeting with a medical diagnosis versus not having one. Our personal experience that although distasteful, the diagnoses got Joe the services he needed when he needed them. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Go see the Ped Neuro - the earlier you receive some diagnoses, the better. Think of it as a " ruling out " visit - ruling out apraxia (if possible), brain damage, hearing difficulties, etc.. And, if the neuro finds something of concern, you're addressing it early which is unilaterally better. (Please correct me if I'm wrong here people!) If it's not going to break you financially, I really do not see a good reason not to go. Also (and this is me speaking as someone who chose NOT to go through EI because of reports of the lack of decent services in my area), you might benefit from seeing a ped neuro or dev ped because they can get your insurance to pay for additional, private services which might benefit your child more. In the end, you and your husband know best. Good luck!! Marina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Hi-- if I were in your shoes, I would let several things determine what I would do-- one would be, finances. Do I have health insurance to cover the very pricey cost of a neurology appointment? If so, then I would be more inclined to just go-ahead-and-do-it even if I was happy with the progress he was making so far. I would also think about the future-- would getting the diagnosis NOW be helpful when he transitions to public school at age 3. From experience, it never hurts to have your " ducks in a row " . Meaning, if they can't qualify him under Developmental Delay, if you have a bonafide diagnosis of either documented hearing impairment or another medical diagnosis, then they can use that instead! With the hearing impairment, your son could receive services under Hearing Impaired. With a medical diagnosis, they could go with OHI or HI (Other Health Impaired or Health Impaired depending on what your state calls it--some say OHI some say HI). So if finances were OK, then I'd go ahead and do the evaluation for the simple reason of having something to fall back on if the school district comes to you and says, " he doesn't qualify " , then you can say, oh yes he does! W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 I totally agree with Marina on this one. This is exactly why we went to a developmental pediatrician for our son. While we knew he had a significant speech delay, we went just to " rule out " some things, and just to know exactly what was going on. I figured if it was truly a more serious neurological problem then we'd be referred to the neurologist. Strangely enough, our initial response to getting Drew's diagnosis of apraxia was one of relief and excitement. Why? Because now we knew what was going on with him, why he wasn't making that much progress in his EI services (and we have good EI services where I live)...it all added up and made sense. Upon sharing the information with EI services, we were able to make some tweaks in his therapy, and we've seen a huge change in him. (That might also be partially the EFAs, but I think it's a combination of revised therapy and the EFAs). Since Drew is going to be transitioning to preschool this summer, I am glad I did it now, so we knew what we were dealing with, and now we know how to approach Drew and his learning so that he makes significant progress. If you can manage it, do it. It will give you peace of mind, no matter the outcome, because in the end you will know what exactly you are dealing with, and you'll have a better sense of how you need to research and work with the diagnosis. Hope this helps. le - SAHM to Drew, 2 1/2, apraxia and DSI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Hi Sange, PLEASE do not let this go! I am going to send you a copy of an old post that I had posted on this site a while ago, and also my son's web page addresses. He quit talking at the age of one and at the age of 15 months I started searching for answers. Had I let him go, he may have been paralyzed or who knows. In February 2003 he had brain surgery. He has a chiari malformation; which in lament's terms means that his brain was being crowded due to a small skull. They had to remove part of his skull. He will be three on January 4th and I have him in the PPI preschool five days a week. He started talking consistently about two months after starting school. He has known sign language since 15 months (my husband and I taught him) and he almost never signs now. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me. Kim Antolak (JJ's mom) http://www.geocities.com/1pizzalady/JJSpage.html http://www.geocities.com/1pizzalady/JJSpage2.html http://www.geocities.com/1pizzalady/JJSpage3.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Well, I had some one suggest I take to a specialist a few years back but I was seeing progress and was still hoping all would be resolved by the time he entered kindergarten. Well Here I am with my little guy 5 and I see now end to his treatment. Plus we see issue that didn't seem to be issues when he was younger. I wish I could have those two years back and would have taken him to a developmental Ped when he was a toddler. is now getting all the tests done. Also, you may have to wait 3,4 or 5 months to get into see a pediatric Neurologist. Make the appointment if you change your mind or don't to take him you can always cancel. I decided to get to a specialist back in April of 2003. It took 5 months to get into see her, then I was refered to a ped behavior center and OT for more evals. The OT eval was completed but I couldn't get into the behavior center until Jan 2004. I will go back to the Developmental Ped end of Feb to find out what are plan of attack with be. It can be a long process. I would recommend you take him. You will not regret it, but you may regret it if you don't. (I am regretting it because I waited) God Bless, Heidi-SAHM to 8, 5 (DSI, Apraxia) 20 months (VUR, Plagio/Tort, late talker in EI - speech 2X/wk PT 1X/wk) --- In , " thdoy2 " <Thdoy2@a...> wrote: > Our son, Randy, is 2.4yo and been in early intervention since he was > 23 mos old. He has shown some progress, but still has no formal > diagnosis from any of his therapists (OT, Aural Rehab & SLP). It may > apraxia, just a late talker or due to his mild-moderate hearing > impairment (which normally doesn't affect a child's speech at this > age). > > I say to just let the diagnosis go for now and be happy he is making > progress. My husband really wants a diagnosis and wants him to go > see a pediatric neurologist. We both want what's best for our son, > but are not in agreement here. Does anyone know what we should do? > Thanx, Sange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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