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I would go for a five point harness at this age. IME, the seat belt type

doesn't hold a baby securely enough until the child is quite a bit larger,

and is not comfy enough for sleeping. We use a Britax Freeway Excel as our

main seat in main car, a Britax Cruiser lightweight seat for swapping

between our other two cars and have recently bought a Britax booster for

ferrying DD2's friends about to nursery etc.

Lesley

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Any views on velour vs smooth cloth? 5-point harness vs car's own

seat-belts? Or just personal recommendations?

TIA,

Anneliese (part-time) SAHM to Baby Tim (18/9/99), member, Alton, Bordon and

district branch

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In message , Sue Woollett

writes

>In Canada and NZ, car seats have anchor strap which attach to specific

>anchor points in the boot of the car to further prevent them flying

>forwards. No doubt it'll come to pass here eventually.

Anchor kits to all approved standards available from Halfords for 9.99,

or all good local

Use to attach stage 0 (framed seats not carriers)/1 (with integral belt)

car seat to same anchor points rear seat belts use.

Alternatively various garages will do it for you - contact local council

Roads department for list.

For some cars using an anchoring kit is the only method of securing a

seat sufficiently, and is recommended by the seat manufacturers for

these vehicles (list of vehicles from manufacturers - also in cars

without rear seat belts (using a car seat with a static belt is *not*

recommended) unless inertia reel kits available. Also, if you fit your

car seats this way and your car is stolen, standard insurance will pay

the value of the seats as they will count as an integral part of the

vehicle.

--

Helen Armfield

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Phyllis wrote:

>I would love a Britax club class

>Since I

>can barely lift the thing and it has a huge base, I don't see how it would

>fit in an airplane seat

I can assure you it fits!! At least into Singapore Airlines seats. And

Air NZ. Virgin wouldn't let me take it on their planes so I never found

out there. You have to use lapbelt only obviously but it could be

secured to my satisfaction and I preferred to use it to the bulkhead cot

which I was supposed to take her out of every time the seat belt light

came on.

Downside: on flight from Singapore to Auckland Steffi had to take the

window seat for security reasons. Once the people in front had reclined

their seats (economy) there was no room for her to stretch her legs in

the Club Class seat. Consequently she was inclined to kick at the seat

(it being her daytime), leading to a somewhat stressful journey for me

as I had to disturb the guy in the aisle seat to get past him to take

her on walks around the plane.

--

Sue

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> I have to say the thought of putting a baby of 9 or 10 months on one of

> those seats with the adult belt makes me very uncomfy (apologies to those

> who have them, I'm sure it depends on the build of the child, and there

are

> other brands than Britax of course which I haven't tried....)

> HTH Angi

You are quite right Angi, I moved straight into the Super Cruiser at

10 months with no problem at all she must have been the right shape for it.

When Kieran became too long for the Rock-a-bye at about 11 months I tried

him in the Super Cruiser but was not happy with him in it at all, he used to

wriggle down and get the seat belt across his neck and I wasn't convinced he

was safe either. So I borrowed a friend's Club Class which I am much

happier with. Looking at Kieran in the Super Cruiser I really couldn't

believe I had put in it so early but I know I was quite happy with her

in it at the time.

Cerys

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> There will prob come a time when the child can & will un-do himself (by

> pushing the red seat-belt eject button). This gets frightening if it

becomes

> a game or act of defiance.

I've never had a problem with doing this, infact she was still unable

to undo the seat belt when all my friend's children were able to unclip

their 5 point harnesses. Luckily she is very conscientious about seat belts

and won't let you move the car until *everyone* is properly strapped up.

Cerys

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> My girls were little in the dark ages when you had to get harnesses

> fitted to the chassis, which I was happy with - fitted by the garage.

Kwik Fit did/do do this and we found them very reasonable. The

seats don't recline although they can be angled slightly but we

found no problems and have used them for all 3 children. They

can't be moved from car to car unless you get both cars fitted with

the anchoring belts but after that they are really easy to move.

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I wrote

So I borrowed a friend's Club Class which I am much

> happier with.

actually , I don't know if it is a Club Class, it doesn't say. It is one

with a five point harness.

Cerys

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----- Original Message -----

> We brought a MotherCare one because it was all we could afford at the

time, but it is very good. It reclines while the child is in it, 5 point

harness with 3 positions and is easy to take out, it's very light and is

easy to put back in again.

We've got a maxi-cosi priori which is brilliant 5 position recline when

child is in it 1 pull harness adjuster & even little hooks to keep the

seatbelt out of the way while you put child in

downside is it costs £!20 but my in-laws paid

We bought it from a big mothercare world who checked it fitted our car & very

carefully showed us how to fit it

I've heard really good things about halfords re fitting too my friend was

told she can come back any time to check the seat is still fitted ok or if

she gets a new car etc. She said the service was brilliant

hth

Emma

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> Question - how does one strap a 19month old in " arched back, stiff as a

> board " pose into a seat with a 5 point harness

ROFL! Always had this problem with both guys - the only solution was to

tickle the tummy so they start laughing and it relaxes them enough to

quickly strap them in!

Caroline

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Doesn't work with one in full strop mode - even an extremely ticklish one! It

took me 30 minutes (I exaggerate not) the other week to get into his seat.

I almost gave up and decided to stay at home, but sheer pigheadedness kept me at

it. Do you think he has inherited this trait?

Alison

> Question - how does one strap a 19month old in " arched back, stiff as a

> board " pose into a seat with a 5 point harness

ROFL! Always had this problem with both guys - the only solution was to

tickle the tummy so they start laughing and it relaxes them enough to

quickly strap them in!

Caroline

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DS1 was 25 last March, DS2 turned 21 in July. Ds1 based in Edinburgh, Ds2

is Aberdeen.

HTH, ;-))

Lesley

OK Lesley, how old are your DS's? I have 3 single sisters (all having

chucked

their boyfriends in the space of a week) aged 24, 22, and 19 (I think -

don't

quote me!) one of them is even based in Scotland!

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