Re: need ideas for teaching spelling

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure this will help, but my oldest son had a very hard time

spelling so I made up a game where we sang the words and hopped and

jumped around the house. It was so much fun, my son begged to play it.

My son also has aphasia, therapist recommend signing to learn words and

speech for aphasia patients. I also found Listening Therapy to help in

this area. It is noted in research, that brain based learning is very

effective for children. Movement really helps. I'm working on my masters

in Special Education (LD) so I'm aware of research and techniques. Hope

this helps.

[ ] need ideas for teaching spelling

Anyone teaching their child to spell out his words for communication?

I am attempting it but am not getting very far. ny (our son, age

5) points to words or brings the words on a card for communication.

But now we have been advised to teach him to spell as, of course, in

the long run, it allows for much more creativity. Any suggestions

would be appreciated.

[Guest guest]

I thought about this last night, and I have some questions. Who is

advising you to teach your son to spell? Shouldn't his teachers be

the ones that are teaching him? Spelling is hard enough for a child

without speech problems, but it is extremely difficult for a child

with speech problems.

If you don't use phonics with your child, then how are you going to

teach him to read. I'm very curious about this because my daughter

has horrible phoneme awareness, and she is 6.

My gifted son without speech problems did not learn to spell until

he was 6.

Good luck!

Suzi

> Anyone teaching their child to spell out his words for

communication?

> I am attempting it but am not getting very far. ny (our son,

age

> 5) points to words or brings the words on a card for

communication.

> But now we have been advised to teach him to spell as, of course,

in

> the long run, it allows for much more creativity. Any suggestions

> would be appreciated.

>

[Guest guest]

It is fact that in the public schools, teachers are overloaded with too many

kids in a class, some with LD, some with IEPs, some whom no one at home taught

the basics, such as numbers, colors, shapes, some are tired, neglected, abused,

etc. They cannot spend enough 1:1 time with each child whom is behind in every

area to make a big difference without parental help. My husband is a teacher-

and he is expected to both teach and parent his students plus paperwork and

politics- which is ridiculous.

We used flash cards for spelling words, as mine have excellent memories and

learn well by rote. My dyspraxic son could not speak well when he was younger-

but always breezed spelling- which was a big confidence booster, and still is a

positive reinforcer. Spelling came easier than speaking, as he only had to

pronounce one letter at a time. Sometimes, he could spell a word, but not be

able to say it whole. He is also a natural decoder- and read at 3. He remembers

all the phonics rules better than I. They believe that he would test in the

gifted range if we could resolve his language disorder, as standardized tests

are language based, but I surely am proud of his Honor Roll grades

Apraxic/dyspraxic children are very very intelligent- you just need to find the

keys to open their worlds.

My gifted oldest son learned to read at three also, by sight, not phonetically-

some kids are better learning using whole words not sounding each letter out. He

is an awful speller, and obviously is not universally gifted.

The first key is finding out where your child's strengths lie, and what type of

learner they are: visual, spatial, auditory, tactile, etc. Most kids are a

combination of a few different learning styles. Lots of subjects can be taught

in many different ways.

Take care, D

[ ] Re: need ideas for teaching spelling

I thought about this last night, and I have some questions. Who is

advising you to teach your son to spell? Shouldn't his teachers be

the ones that are teaching him? Good luck!

Suzi

> Anyone teaching their child to spell out his words for

communication?

But now we have been advised to teach him to spell as, of course,

in the long run, it allows for much more creativity. Any suggestions

> would be appreciated.

>

[Guest guest]

I expect teachers to teach and send homework to be done with

parental help if needed. If I was going to teach my kids to read,

then I would homeschool them. There isn't enough time after school

to teach them much of anything. Kids need playtime and downtime

after school.

If a child has a learning disability, then they should either be in

a special ed class or getting pulled out for whatever type of help

they need.

Some apraxic kids are not intelligent. There can be other problems

associated with apraxia.

Teachers should not be expected to parent, but they should be

expected to teach. Parents should be expected to parent.

Suzi

--- In , " CJ Dir " <gstone98@t...>

wrote:

> It is fact that in the public schools, teachers are overloaded

with too many kids in a class, some with LD, some with IEPs, some

whom no one at home taught the basics, such as numbers, colors,

shapes, some are tired, neglected, abused, etc. They cannot spend

enough 1:1 time with each child whom is behind in every area to make

a big difference without parental help. My husband is a teacher- and

he is expected to both teach and parent his students

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzi: I did not say it was right, nor did I say that I felt that you expected

teachers to parent.

If what you said below was the norm, schools may actually get and retain many

great teachers,

and all children would have the attention they require. I wish more parents felt

this way!

I expect teachers to teach and send homework to be done with

parental help if needed. If a child has a learning disability, then they

should either be in

a special ed class or getting pulled out for whatever type of help

they need.

Some apraxic kids are not intelligent. There can be other problems

associated with apraxia.

Teachers should not be expected to parent, but they should be

expected to teach. Parents should be expected to parent.

Suzi

[Guest guest]

Suzi, you asked who is advising me to teach my son to spell. Good

question. The fact is we are following a therapy program (carried out

at home) with the Family Hope Center in Philadelphia and it was there

they told me this. They gave me an internet address to look up but it

means subscribing to the magazine (or something like that) so I

thought I'd do a short cut and just ask folks who may already be

doing this. As to teaching our son to read, we've done the Glenn

Doman method (How To Teach Your Baby To Read) that is done by rote

memory. We show flashcards with the words written very large and

slowly decrease the size of the letters, add words to make couplets,

then make sentences. ny shows signs of reading but does not pick

up a book and read on his own yet. That will come, I'm sure. Right

now the only thing I can think of for teaching him to spell is, for

example, when feeding him a pear, before he gets the next bite he has

to point to the " p " . He does that. But it's the next letters that he

doesn't do yet. Patience and perseverance is what I need! We plan to

keep at this therapy until he's school age and then see about putting

him in school.

(ny 5)

[Guest guest]

How can one find out what type of " learner " your child is; whether visual,

spatial, auditory, tactile, etc.? I feel like I'm holding back on complex

vocabulary and teaching due to my son's speech issues (he has severe Verbal

Apraxia & has 15 comprehensible words (to all) and 60+ comprehensible

psuedo-words (to me only).

(mom of 35 mth old & 8 mth old Chase)

Re: [ ] Re: need ideas for teaching spelling

> The first key is finding out where your child's strengths lie, and what

>type of learner they are: visual, spatial, auditory, tactile, etc. Most kids

>are a combination of a few different learning styles. Lots of subjects can

>be taught in many different ways.

> Take care, D

[Guest guest]

My son can spell his name. He is so proud that he can finally tell

people his name when asked. He is only 3, but can spell Mom, Dad,

Pa(for grandpa), dog and cat.

Terry

[Guest guest]

- I know there are tests out there, but I doubt they're

appropriate for your son. I'll do some looking though and get back

to you...

In the meantime, I have a couple of ideas/comments/my usual

opinionated long-winded reply...

People are not solely one type of learner or another; it's always a

blend of a few different styles with a definite leaning towards one

or two. My son is very auditory and visual. He has what we call

a " phonographic " memory - he hears things 1X and that's it. He's got

it down and it's repeatable. It was a real struggle before he spoke

to teach him concepts, but I was determined. The real question is

not how the input goes in but how you get a response OUT. Teachers

are always recommended to teach the same thing using a variety of

methods. For example, in Montessori, teachers read the ABCs to kids,

they trace them on paper, they use their fingers on sand boards to

trace them out, they sing, they jump while saying it... Can you

teach complex math this way? Probably not...but if you can't get

them to understand where Bolivia is in relation to Chile from staring

at a map, you can teach them a rhyme about it or have them make a

topographical map in wet sand...

All this said, I would say to go for it and try to teach your son the

complex things you've been holding back on. Remember, if your son is

only apraxic, his input is fine. In fact, he's probably

overcompensated and it's MORE than fine. He's absorbing and

retaining what you tell him - he just can't get it out. What do you

WANT to teach him? What does he want to learn? Space? Dinosaurs?

Physics? (I use baseball to teach that one!)

Sorry to be long winded - will let you know if I find a test online...

Marina

> How can one find out what type of " learner " your child is; whether

visual,

> spatial, auditory, tactile, etc.? I feel like I'm holding back on

complex

> vocabulary and teaching due to my son's speech issues (he has

severe Verbal

> Apraxia & has 15 comprehensible words (to all) and 60+

comprehensible

> psuedo-words (to me only).

>

> (mom of 35 mth old & 8 mth old Chase)

>

> Re: [ ] Re: need ideas for teaching

spelling

>

> > The first key is finding out where your child's strengths lie,

and what

> >type of learner they are: visual, spatial, auditory, tactile, etc.

Most kids

> >are a combination of a few different learning styles. Lots of

subjects can

> >be taught in many different ways.

> > Take care, D

[Guest guest]

http://www.fortnet.org/ParentToParent/PFellers/par_lern.html

----- Original Message -----

> How can one find out what type of " learner " your child is; whether visual,

> spatial, auditory, tactile, etc.? I feel like I'm holding back on

complex

> vocabulary and teaching due to my son's speech issues (he has severe

Verbal

> Apraxia & has 15 comprehensible words (to all) and 60+ comprehensible

> psuedo-words (to me only).

>

> (mom of 35 mth old & 8 mth old Chase)

[Guest guest]

http://www.parentcenter.com/calculators/learningstyle

[ ] Re: need ideas for teaching spelling

How can one find out what type of " learner " your child is; whether visual,

spatial, auditory, tactile, etc.? I feel like I'm holding back on complex

vocabulary and teaching due to my son's speech issues (he has severe Verbal

Apraxia & has 15 comprehensible words (to all) and 60+ comprehensible

psuedo-words (to me only).

(mom of 35 mth old & 8 mth old Chase)

[Guest guest]

Marina....thanks so much for your response. Not long-winded at all -

exactly the kind of information that I need. It is really interesting!

The creativity that is required in teaching does not come easily to me for

some reason. I really have to sit & deliberate over a topic for some time

before I come up w/ a way to teach it without costing me a fortune by making

me run to Hammits Learning World to buy all their fancy teaching stuff. I

have to work on this. Did you see Glynda Gros' 1/6/03 post? She had a lot

of neat ideas that I stole.

Thanks again!!!

(mom of 35 mth old & 8 mth old Chase)

[ ] Re: need ideas for teaching spelling

> - I know there are tests out there, but I doubt they're

> appropriate for your son. I'll do some looking though and get back

> to you...

>

> In the meantime, I have a couple of ideas/comments/my usual

> opinionated long-winded reply...

>

> People are not solely one type of learner or another; it's always a

> blend of a few different styles with a definite leaning towards one

> or two. My son is very auditory and visual. He has what we call

> a " phonographic " memory - he hears things 1X and that's it. He's got

> it down and it's repeatable. It was a real struggle before he spoke

> to teach him concepts, but I was determined. The real question is

> not how the input goes in but how you get a response OUT. Teachers

> are always recommended to teach the same thing using a variety of

> methods. For example, in Montessori, teachers read the ABCs to kids,

> they trace them on paper, they use their fingers on sand boards to

> trace them out, they sing, they jump while saying it... Can you

> teach complex math this way? Probably not...but if you can't get

> them to understand where Bolivia is in relation to Chile from staring

> at a map, you can teach them a rhyme about it or have them make a

> topographical map in wet sand...

>

> All this said, I would say to go for it and try to teach your son the

> complex things you've been holding back on. Remember, if your son is

> only apraxic, his input is fine. In fact, he's probably

> overcompensated and it's MORE than fine. He's absorbing and

> retaining what you tell him - he just can't get it out. What do you

> WANT to teach him? What does he want to learn? Space? Dinosaurs?

> Physics? (I use baseball to teach that one!)

>

> Sorry to be long winded - will let you know if I find a test online...

>

> Marina