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I have a Pro Form treadmill that we got at Sears on sale. I love it, and

use it almost everyday when I can't go outdoors. It has ten levels of

inclination, and goes at least up to 10 mph (I haven't gone any faster, and

wasn't on it at the time it made 10mph). It folds up so I can have it in

almost any room in the house (folded up it has about a 2' by 3' footprint).

It's rated for up to 350 pounds (someone else in the house thought he would

use it, so we paid extra for the heavy duty model. He used it exactly three

times, the last time putting a small hole in the wall).

The only thing I don't like about it is that the thumb pulse monitor is

never correct. It will read 55, 90, 150, 100, in about a 2 minute span, in

the middle of the workout. I just check the old fashioned way, and ignore

that feature.

Robin G.

>From: ssskrc@...

>Reply-To: diabetes_int

>To: diabetes_int

>Subject: Treadmills?

>Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:47:33 EDT

>

>Hi Guys,

>I am thinking of getting a treadmill and would love some recommendations

>from

>those of you who own one and like it. I do a lot of walking outside already

>but I thought the treadmill inside for jogging might be good.

>Thanks

>

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I have a Pro Form treadmill that we got at Sears on sale. I love it, and

use it almost everyday when I can't go outdoors. It has ten levels of

inclination, and goes at least up to 10 mph (I haven't gone any faster, and

wasn't on it at the time it made 10mph). It folds up so I can have it in

almost any room in the house (folded up it has about a 2' by 3' footprint).

It's rated for up to 350 pounds (someone else in the house thought he would

use it, so we paid extra for the heavy duty model. He used it exactly three

times, the last time putting a small hole in the wall).

The only thing I don't like about it is that the thumb pulse monitor is

never correct. It will read 55, 90, 150, 100, in about a 2 minute span, in

the middle of the workout. I just check the old fashioned way, and ignore

that feature.

Robin G.

>From: ssskrc@...

>Reply-To: diabetes_int

>To: diabetes_int

>Subject: Treadmills?

>Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:47:33 EDT

>

>Hi Guys,

>I am thinking of getting a treadmill and would love some recommendations

>from

>those of you who own one and like it. I do a lot of walking outside already

>but I thought the treadmill inside for jogging might be good.

>Thanks

>

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Mine (the one that folds up) is model 831.297690

Robin G.

>From: ssskrc@...

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>To: diabetes_int

>Subject: Re: Treadmills?

>Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:56:53 EDT

>

>

>

>

>

> > We paid $600.00 for it after having had 3 weslos - all were terrible -

>the

> > best one cost $350 and lasted 1.5 years before the motor burned out.  It

> > was rickety too.

> >

>

>Hi,

>Thanks so much for the information. I have been doing a lot of research on

>the internet and went out yesterday and tried a few. You are right the

>Weslo's are very very rickety! And loud too! It sounded like a blender was

>running or something.. I tried a Proform and a Nordic Track treadmill at

>Sears and liked both of them. The Nordic Track was very quiet but is

>enormous. Space is limited so I want the smallest yet sturdiest one I can

>find. The Proform did seem all a really good all around brand. Do you

>happen

>to know what model you have?

>Thanks

>

>

>

>

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Mine (the one that folds up) is model 831.297690

Robin G.

>From: ssskrc@...

>Reply-To: diabetes_int

>To: diabetes_int

>Subject: Re: Treadmills?

>Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:56:53 EDT

>

>

>

>

>

> > We paid $600.00 for it after having had 3 weslos - all were terrible -

>the

> > best one cost $350 and lasted 1.5 years before the motor burned out.  It

> > was rickety too.

> >

>

>Hi,

>Thanks so much for the information. I have been doing a lot of research on

>the internet and went out yesterday and tried a few. You are right the

>Weslo's are very very rickety! And loud too! It sounded like a blender was

>running or something.. I tried a Proform and a Nordic Track treadmill at

>Sears and liked both of them. The Nordic Track was very quiet but is

>enormous. Space is limited so I want the smallest yet sturdiest one I can

>find. The Proform did seem all a really good all around brand. Do you

>happen

>to know what model you have?

>Thanks

>

>

>

>

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> Who here was too busy to take a shower this morning... let's see

> a show of hands -- on second thought please keep your arms down.

>

> Why is it that everybody managed to get a shower in this morning...

> because they've made it a priority that they will not compromise

> on. >

Excuse me?

We're suffering from a very long drought and so I don't shower everyday -

just every other day - except if I'm going out, and if I do something

strenuous - like house cleaning. Even walking doesn't generate too much

sweat.

Bea

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In a message dated 4/24/2003 9:05:05 AM Central Standard Time,

brucewilson@... writes:

> Is this a typo or a joke?

Who me?? Joke?? Ressy tell a joke?? Hmmm.....

<grin>

Ressy

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In a message dated 4/24/2003 9:39:54 AM Central Standard Time,

genna@... writes:

> I like to lift weights too, I feel so good afterward.

>

While we are on the topic of exercising.....I got a membership to Curves and

after convincing my dh that I cannot take 4 kids with me to exercise I have

finally been getting there on a regular schedule.....I think I am going to

quit!! My blood sugar skyrockets!! But now I learned from this group

yesterday why that happens....so now what do I do about it?? I go in the

morning...should I eat before hand....or not?? It does come down and usually

way lower than before....should I just not worry about it?? When I lose more

weight will this go away?? Will I have loads of grandchildren and will my

son pass his Senior Electronic Design class?? Oh woe is me.......<grin>

Ressy

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Ressy, if your BG skyrockets after exercise that probably means that you were

normal or even a little low before you started and the exercise lowered it to

the point where you got a " liver dump " which made it go way high. I suggest

checking your BG before exercise and if it's at a normal level or even a

little low you could either take a " preventative " glucose tab or two (which I

do) or have a little carby snack first (a good excuse!)...maybe a half orange

or a bite of scone, etc. Just a bite, now! You want your BG to be a little

high when you start exercise to prevent that liver dump. Do a little extra

testing a couple of times -- test before exercise and after. Pretty soon

you'll have an idea how much exercise makes your BG go down. Then you can

make sure your BG is high enough when you start.

Vicki

In a message dated 04/24/2003 8:50:53 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

resmith315@... writes:

> While we are on the topic of exercising.....I got a membership to Curves and

>

> after convincing my dh that I cannot take 4 kids with me to exercise I have

>

> finally been getting there on a regular schedule.....I think I am going to

> quit!! My blood sugar skyrockets!! But now I learned from this group

> yesterday why that happens....so now what do I do about it?? I go in the

> morning...should I eat before hand....or not?? It does come down and

> usually

> way lower than before....should I just not worry about it?? When I lose

> more

> weight will this go away?? Will I have loads of grandchildren and will my

>

> son pass his Senior Electronic Design class?? Oh woe is me.......<grin>

>

>

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Ressy, if your BG skyrockets after exercise that probably means that you were

normal or even a little low before you started and the exercise lowered it to

the point where you got a " liver dump " which made it go way high. I suggest

checking your BG before exercise and if it's at a normal level or even a

little low you could either take a " preventative " glucose tab or two (which I

do) or have a little carby snack first (a good excuse!)...maybe a half orange

or a bite of scone, etc. Just a bite, now! You want your BG to be a little

high when you start exercise to prevent that liver dump. Do a little extra

testing a couple of times -- test before exercise and after. Pretty soon

you'll have an idea how much exercise makes your BG go down. Then you can

make sure your BG is high enough when you start.

Vicki

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resmith315@... writes:

> While we are on the topic of exercising.....I got a membership to Curves and

>

> after convincing my dh that I cannot take 4 kids with me to exercise I have

>

> finally been getting there on a regular schedule.....I think I am going to

> quit!! My blood sugar skyrockets!! But now I learned from this group

> yesterday why that happens....so now what do I do about it?? I go in the

> morning...should I eat before hand....or not?? It does come down and

> usually

> way lower than before....should I just not worry about it?? When I lose

> more

> weight will this go away?? Will I have loads of grandchildren and will my

>

> son pass his Senior Electronic Design class?? Oh woe is me.......<grin>

>

>

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Is this a typo or a joke? ('dread' for 'tread'?--that is, having to exercise

something that one 'dreads'--particularly walking and walking and not getting

anywhere?)

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I have a proform dreadmill and this is my second

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> Who here was too busy to take a shower this morning... let's see

> a show of hands -- on second thought please keep your arms down.

>

> Why is it that everybody managed to get a shower in this morning...

> because they've made it a priority that they will not compromise

> on.

Excuse me?

We're suffering from a very long drought and so I don't shower

everyday - just every other day - except if I'm going out, and

if I do something strenuous - like house cleaning. Even walking

doesn't generate too much sweat.

Bea

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Okay, clearly there are exceptions, but the point is still valid,

and you weren't too busy to take a shower, rather you chose not

to. Perhaps we could agree on brushing our teeth daily.

My point remains, unless you give some activity (in this case

working out) the same priority in your day as something you are

unwilling to compromise then the risk of it being pushed aside

remains.

Boomer Sooner, !

/richard

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Exercise isn't pointless -- I'm improving my mind while I'm exercising by

listening to books on tape - and exercise is the only time I listen to 'em.

If it's a really good book I may even execise extra!

Vicki

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brucewilson@... writes:

> My father has always said that he hated exercise because it was pointless.

> He didn't mind doing some useful task or activity that also provided the

> benefit of exercise (like digging in the garden)--or even playing a game

> like a round or two of tennis--, but he couldn't see the point in just

> going out and running or lifting weights. I can sort of agree with him in

> that I don't like walking on a treadmill--if I'm going to walk, I want to

> walk to somewhere

>

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Oh, dear Ressy - another charming post! Imagine your body organs

filled with vials of poison. You exercise vigorously and that poison

rushes to your overtaxed muscles, to be converted to " good stuff " ...

fuel to be burned up by them. If you happen to test your blood

glucose post-exercise while that transition is occurring, you will

see a glucose spike, because of all those little guys marching

through your bloodstream, making their way to your needy muscles.

Glucose stored in our organs is " poison, " but it serves an important

function: to feed muscles. Our modern diet contains too many

carbohydrates for an indolent lifestyle. Therefore, they are parked

in our body organs, where they do damage. Exercise causes our bodies

to mimic that of our prehistoric ancestors, burning up that stored

fuel.

I would ignore those temporary spikes ... it's just your body,

burning up that unhealthy excess stored glucose. Good job, gal!

Susie

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Oh, dear Ressy - another charming post! Imagine your body organs

filled with vials of poison. You exercise vigorously and that poison

rushes to your overtaxed muscles, to be converted to " good stuff " ...

fuel to be burned up by them. If you happen to test your blood

glucose post-exercise while that transition is occurring, you will

see a glucose spike, because of all those little guys marching

through your bloodstream, making their way to your needy muscles.

Glucose stored in our organs is " poison, " but it serves an important

function: to feed muscles. Our modern diet contains too many

carbohydrates for an indolent lifestyle. Therefore, they are parked

in our body organs, where they do damage. Exercise causes our bodies

to mimic that of our prehistoric ancestors, burning up that stored

fuel.

I would ignore those temporary spikes ... it's just your body,

burning up that unhealthy excess stored glucose. Good job, gal!

Susie

<< I got a membership to Curves ... My blood sugar skyrockets!! >>

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> Glad it works for you.  For me - being able to disengage my mind and

> not think about where or when I'm getting somewhere is what is good.

>

*****this is what I like too. People always say to me don't you get bored

walking around the neighborhood. It's funny but I don't at all. I find it

very relaxing. I plan my day, plan my meals its like it is my time and I can

totally zone out. I guess I am weird that way. I think the people that don't

like exercise have never gotten the beta-endorphin lift from it. Because it

is the best high you can have and it lasts all day and no hangover.:) It is

the only drug that the more addicted you get the better you feel.

>  

>

>

> My father in law was like that too.  He had an arthritic shoulder that a

> little light dumbbell pressing probably would have helped with stength and

> flexibility.  The Doctors told him that and I loaned him a dumbbell.  There

> was no way he was  going to do anything like that.   OH, WELL....

>

********I find lifting my dumbbells is a perfect thing while watching tv or

sitting at the computer reading.

>

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> I was in a pulmonary rehab program for about a year and a half and I had to

eat afterwards because my BG was usually in the 75 range when I finished and my

doctor didn't want me to drive with it under 100.

> Kay

I don't understand why you shouldn't drive under 100mg/dl. 75-100mg/dl

is a perfectly normal bg level. It's perfect.

Were you diabetic at the time & taking something to lower bg's?

Inquiring minds want to know!!!

, T2

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> I was in a pulmonary rehab program for about a year and a

> half and I had to eat afterwards because my BG was usually in

> the 75 range when I finished and my doctor didn't want me to

> drive with it under 100.

> Kay

Do you use insulin or sulfs? My first reaction to the 'no driving under

100' edict is -- Why? Non-diabetics generally spend most of there lives

under

100, and 75 is not an uncommon blood sugar level for non-diabetics.

The only reason I can think of for not driving in the 75-100 range

is the possible hypo risk for those using insulin or a sulf when their

blood sugar level is on the way down. What reason were you given?

Tom the Actuary

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> -----Original Message-----

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> I was in a pulmonary rehab program for about a year and a

> half and I had to eat afterwards because my BG was usually in

> the 75 range when I finished and my doctor didn't want me to

> drive with it under 100.

> Kay

Do you use insulin or sulfs? My first reaction to the 'no driving under

100' edict is -- Why? Non-diabetics generally spend most of there lives

under

100, and 75 is not an uncommon blood sugar level for non-diabetics.

The only reason I can think of for not driving in the 75-100 range

is the possible hypo risk for those using insulin or a sulf when their

blood sugar level is on the way down. What reason were you given?

Tom the Actuary

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<< My father has always said that he hated exercise because it was

pointless. He didn't mind doing some useful task or activity that

also provided the benefit of exercise (like digging in the garden)--

or even playing a game like a round or two of tennis >>

That's how I feel too. I've lived in the country most of my life, and

I enjoy getting outdoors and working on projects, but monotony sets

in very quickly when I work out on the home gym.

Susie

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My father has always said that he hated exercise because it was

pointless. He didn't mind doing some useful task or activity

that also provided the benefit of exercise (like digging in the

garden)--or even playing a game like a round or two of tennis--,

but he couldn't see the point in just going out and running or

lifting weights. I can sort of agree with him in that I don't

like walking on a treadmill--if I'm going to walk, I want to

walk to somewhere

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Religious or not, spiritual or not, the human body is an amazing

gift. *I feel* that I owe it to my body, my self and my family

to take care of it.

Why nurture your intellect, why nurture your emotions?

Particularly in this age of people developing lifestyle

diseases, exercise

+ strengthens your heart

+ reduces the risk factor in countless diseases

+ strengthens your body -- chores no longer seem so

chore-like -- running up and down the stairs at home

doesn't leave you winded, changing the 5 gallon water

bottle isn't left for the next person to come across it

+ spending a day walking around the zoo or amusement park

with the family doesn't leave you begging for shade and

frequent rest stops

+ boosts self-esteem

+ makes you more attractive to your partner. I don't care

if you've been married 2 years, 20 years or 60 years,

*in my opinion* you owe it to your partner to take care

of yourself -- both for your appearance, and for the

longest possible lives together

+ and, if you're a male bodybuilder you can comment on

another guy's physique without sounding gay ;^)

Treadmills and other exercise equipment can be mind-numbingly

dull, so here's something I've done in the past. Get some

really pumping music you like on a portable player AND tune in

to some mindless soap opera with the closed captions turned on.

You can listen to your music, read the dialog and watch the

show... you might just learn if a really was involved in the

death of her daughter's lesbian lover.

cheers to all,

/richard

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<< Treadmills and other exercise equipment can be mind-numbingly

dull, so here's something I've done in the past. Get some really

pumping music you like on a portable player AND tune in to some

mindless soap opera with the closed captions turned on. You can

listen to your music, read the dialog and watch the show... you might

just learn if a really was involved in the death of her

daughter's lesbian lover. >>

Hahahahaha ... I bought an inexpensive metronome from a music shop

and discovered that my favorite workout tempo is around 120 beats per

minute. I got out my boombox and played a bunch of my favorite songs

and found the ones that were closest to that beat and recorded them

together on cassettes, to use for workouts.

Susie

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I can't read while walking on the treadmill --- it makes me too dizzy --- I go

with

your idea Susie -- my favorite while on the treadmill is the old Tony Orlando

and Dawn

song " Who's In The Strawberry Patch With Sally " and I can listen to it for a

good

half hour without tiring of the song. lol

Kay

wrote:

<< Treadmills and other exercise equipment can be mind-numbingly

dull, so here's something I've done in the past. Get some really

pumping music you like on a portable player AND tune in to some

mindless soap opera with the closed captions turned on. You can

listen to your music, read the dialog and watch the show... you might

just learn if a really was involved in the death of her

daughter's lesbian lover. >>

Hahahahaha ... I bought an inexpensive metronome from a music shop

and discovered that my favorite workout tempo is around 120 beats per

minute. I got out my boombox and played a bunch of my favorite songs

and found the ones that were closest to that beat and recorded them

together on cassettes, to use for workouts.

Susie

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> My father in law was like that too. He had an arthritic shoulder that a

little light dumbbell pressing probably would have helped with stength and

flexibility. The Doctors told him that and I loaned him a dumbbell. There

was no way he was going to do anything like that. OH, WELL.... >

Years ago I heard about an exercise program to do in the kitchen. So part of

my exercise regime involves filling in time while cooking. I have two cans

handy - currently 485gm each (about 1 pound) instead of dumbells, and I lift

my legs to the side, and various other simple exercise as I wait for the

microwave etc. I try to do about 10 minutes " kitchen exercises " per meal.

My main exercise is walking - and I also use my Airofit for workouts that

maintain arm strength, as well as the legs. All fairly gentle because of the

psoriatic arthritis in every joint.

Bea Pullar T2 2001

Lifelong education, Glycemic Load, Exercise,

Metformin, Amaryl, Oroxine, Lipitor

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> > I was in a pulmonary rehab program for about a year and a half

and I had to eat afterwards because my BG was usually in the 75 range

when I finished and my doctor didn't want me to drive with it under

100.

> > Kay

>

> I don't understand why you shouldn't drive under 100mg/dl. 75-

100mg/dl

> is a perfectly normal bg level. It's perfect.

> Were you diabetic at the time & taking something to lower bg's?

> Inquiring minds want to know!!!

> , T2

Makes perfect sense to me. If I'm at 75 right after exercise I eat

something because if I don't, my BG will keep dropping for a while

and I'll get into a hypo situation. I'm not on any meds or insulin.

I just go low. Some people do. I usually try to be at least in the

90s before I start my hour-plus commute home at the end of the day,

and if I'm lower than that I'll eat a protein bar on the way home.

Today I was a half hour late for lunch because I had a lot to do.

Usually that's not a big deal for me, but as I was standing in line

waiting to order my food I became aware that I felt shaky. I

discreetly tested, and sure enough, a reading of 60. It had only

been 4 hours since I had last eaten, so we're not talking about a

long time. I popped a lifesaver in my mouth to tide me over until I

could get my food and get back to my office.

Christy

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> and played a bunch of my favorite songs

> and found the ones that were closest to that beat and recorded them

> together on cassettes, to use for workouts.

>

I have been having good luck with a good mystery book on tape and the TV.

The key for me is to keep my mind so busy it does not pay attention to what

my feet are doing.....

BTW....treadmill work does not make my numbers go through the roof...but the

weight lifting does....go figure.....

Ressy

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