Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Jimmy, I shudnt even reply. this is not a happy subject and obviously a sensitive one. " If " the spouse was essentially dead, i.e. no hope in a vegatative state, no brain activity, not aware of anything around him or her, yes, the spouse should not spend the remainder of his or her life in that kind of hell. Meanin afterseveral years they need to move on and live!!! This is healthy the thing to do. The person in the terminal state would want the other to continue with life. i have known a younger couple and oldddd one in this situation. Its basically about being able to accept death. I think many spouses choose to stand by their loved one but when it turns into years and years with ZERO hope of recovery, you can still see to it he or she is taken care of and love him or her and yet continue with your life. > Re: til death due you part.... > > > thats beautiful jd, but .... what if you were 25, your wife was in tat st> ate > for 15 years and it was just a matter of time > ________________________________________________________ > So you dump your spouse if " she " is dying.tsk,tsk,tsk......Ahhhh but who a> m I to judge. > Jimmy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Jimmy, I shudnt even reply. this is not a happy subject and obviously a sensitive one. " If " the spouse was essentially dead, i.e. no hope in a vegatative state, no brain activity, not aware of anything around him or her, yes, the spouse should not spend the remainder of his or her life in that kind of hell. Meanin afterseveral years they need to move on and live!!! This is healthy the thing to do. The person in the terminal state would want the other to continue with life. i have known a younger couple and oldddd one in this situation. Its basically about being able to accept death. I think many spouses choose to stand by their loved one but when it turns into years and years with ZERO hope of recovery, you can still see to it he or she is taken care of and love him or her and yet continue with your life. > Re: til death due you part.... > > > thats beautiful jd, but .... what if you were 25, your wife was in tat st> ate > for 15 years and it was just a matter of time > ________________________________________________________ > So you dump your spouse if " she " is dying.tsk,tsk,tsk......Ahhhh but who a> m I to judge. > Jimmy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 thats beautiful jd, but .... what if you were 25, your wife was in tat state for 15 years and it was just a matter of time she wud eventually die but has noooooooo life in her, just a feeding tube. if my hub was 25 and that happened to me, yes id want him to LIVE his life and if he found someone to share LIFE with him, I see nothing wrong with that. im not talking out cruising for babes for cheap sex, or flaunting a wife at the nursing home where the person would be, good grief. anyhow, yes, lets hope we never need to face that. Jeff Daharsh wrote: > I would stay by my wife's side, " til thee end of time. " My life is > nothing without her. There are moments when I think why should she be > cheated by not having a better life, a husband that could go places and > do things, or give her the things she deserves that I can no longer do. I > never knew love could be this way until she showed me. The belief, the > trust, the unwavering love. I thank her everyday for picking me to love, > to be the one she wanted to marry. I tell her I'm sorry she has to > sacrifice so much because of what NF2 has done to us. She smiles and > tells me to stop being silly and ads " You'd do it for me. " She's right, I > be honored to be with her and take care of her.... " til death do us > part. " > > Later, > JD, who knows he has something special, and feels sorry for all the > people who go through life and never know what true love is, in AZ > > PS: I would think someone in a vegetative state would still want to live > if they knew their mate was still there. But that's just what I would > think. Let's hope we-none of us-ever have to be put to the test. > > On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:27:06 -0400 Henrion > writes: > > Thats an emotional response Jimmy. When love is true you can actually > > feel that you would want your spouse to find someone else if you > > were > > COMPLETELY in a vegatative state with no hope for recovery. You can > > still love the person and attend to their needs, but if the person > > is > > like in a coma or say 95 yrs old and dieing of alzheimers and not > > even > > know you, after years of this you need to let go to an extent and > > live. > > > > Jimmy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Henrion > > > > > > Have ? She is 36 now (37?). She suffered a heart attack from > > > potassium loss > > > She was married at the > > > time, her husband has Since divorced her so he can remarry. > > > perfectly > > > understan > > > > > able._________________________________________________________ > > > > > > " perfectly understandable " my ass.It's till " death do us > > > part " not " untill any problem,you can't deal,with should > > > arise,do you part " Jimmy(who has a half sister one year older > > > then him) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 thats beautiful jd, but .... what if you were 25, your wife was in tat state for 15 years and it was just a matter of time she wud eventually die but has noooooooo life in her, just a feeding tube. if my hub was 25 and that happened to me, yes id want him to LIVE his life and if he found someone to share LIFE with him, I see nothing wrong with that. im not talking out cruising for babes for cheap sex, or flaunting a wife at the nursing home where the person would be, good grief. anyhow, yes, lets hope we never need to face that. Jeff Daharsh wrote: > I would stay by my wife's side, " til thee end of time. " My life is > nothing without her. There are moments when I think why should she be > cheated by not having a better life, a husband that could go places and > do things, or give her the things she deserves that I can no longer do. I > never knew love could be this way until she showed me. The belief, the > trust, the unwavering love. I thank her everyday for picking me to love, > to be the one she wanted to marry. I tell her I'm sorry she has to > sacrifice so much because of what NF2 has done to us. She smiles and > tells me to stop being silly and ads " You'd do it for me. " She's right, I > be honored to be with her and take care of her.... " til death do us > part. " > > Later, > JD, who knows he has something special, and feels sorry for all the > people who go through life and never know what true love is, in AZ > > PS: I would think someone in a vegetative state would still want to live > if they knew their mate was still there. But that's just what I would > think. Let's hope we-none of us-ever have to be put to the test. > > On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:27:06 -0400 Henrion > writes: > > Thats an emotional response Jimmy. When love is true you can actually > > feel that you would want your spouse to find someone else if you > > were > > COMPLETELY in a vegatative state with no hope for recovery. You can > > still love the person and attend to their needs, but if the person > > is > > like in a coma or say 95 yrs old and dieing of alzheimers and not > > even > > know you, after years of this you need to let go to an extent and > > live. > > > > Jimmy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Henrion > > > > > > Have ? She is 36 now (37?). She suffered a heart attack from > > > potassium loss > > > She was married at the > > > time, her husband has Since divorced her so he can remarry. > > > perfectly > > > understan > > > > > able._________________________________________________________ > > > > > > " perfectly understandable " my ass.It's till " death do us > > > part " not " untill any problem,you can't deal,with should > > > arise,do you part " Jimmy(who has a half sister one year older > > > then him) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Excuse me while I go PUKE Marcus who thinks hes going to be sick, > I would stay by my wife's side, " til thee end of time. " My life is > nothing without her. There are moments when I think why should she be > cheated by not having a better life, a husband that could go places and > do things, or give her the things she deserves that I can no longer do. I > never knew love could be this way until she showed me. The belief, the > trust, the unwavering love. I thank her everyday for picking me to love, > to be the one she wanted to marry. I tell her I'm sorry she has to > sacrifice so much because of what NF2 has done to us. She smiles and > tells me to stop being silly and ads " You'd do it for me. " She's right, I > be honored to be with her and take care of her.... " til death do us > part. " > > Later, > JD, who knows he has something special, and feels sorry for all the > people who go through life and never know what true love is, in AZ > > PS: I would think someone in a vegetative state would still want to live > if they knew their mate was still there. But that's just what I would > think. Let's hope we-none of us-ever have to be put to the test. > > > On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:27:06 -0400 Henrion > writes: > > Thats an emotional response Jimmy. When love is true you can actually > > feel that you would want your spouse to find someone else if you > > were > > COMPLETELY in a vegatative state with no hope for recovery. You can > > still love the person and attend to their needs, but if the person > > is > > like in a coma or say 95 yrs old and dieing of alzheimers and not > > even > > know you, after years of this you need to let go to an extent and > > live. > > > > Jimmy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Henrion > > > > > > Have ? She is 36 now (37?). She suffered a heart attack from > > > potassium loss > > > She was married at the > > > time, her husband has Since divorced her so he can remarry. > > > perfectly > > > understan > > > > > able._________________________________________________________ > > > > > > " perfectly understandable " my ass.It's till " death do us > > > part " not " untill any problem,you can't deal,with should > > > arise,do you part " Jimmy(who has a half sister one year older > > > then him) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Excuse me while I go PUKE Marcus who thinks hes going to be sick, > I would stay by my wife's side, " til thee end of time. " My life is > nothing without her. There are moments when I think why should she be > cheated by not having a better life, a husband that could go places and > do things, or give her the things she deserves that I can no longer do. I > never knew love could be this way until she showed me. The belief, the > trust, the unwavering love. I thank her everyday for picking me to love, > to be the one she wanted to marry. I tell her I'm sorry she has to > sacrifice so much because of what NF2 has done to us. She smiles and > tells me to stop being silly and ads " You'd do it for me. " She's right, I > be honored to be with her and take care of her.... " til death do us > part. " > > Later, > JD, who knows he has something special, and feels sorry for all the > people who go through life and never know what true love is, in AZ > > PS: I would think someone in a vegetative state would still want to live > if they knew their mate was still there. But that's just what I would > think. Let's hope we-none of us-ever have to be put to the test. > > > On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:27:06 -0400 Henrion > writes: > > Thats an emotional response Jimmy. When love is true you can actually > > feel that you would want your spouse to find someone else if you > > were > > COMPLETELY in a vegatative state with no hope for recovery. You can > > still love the person and attend to their needs, but if the person > > is > > like in a coma or say 95 yrs old and dieing of alzheimers and not > > even > > know you, after years of this you need to let go to an extent and > > live. > > > > Jimmy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Henrion > > > > > > Have ? She is 36 now (37?). She suffered a heart attack from > > > potassium loss > > > She was married at the > > > time, her husband has Since divorced her so he can remarry. > > > perfectly > > > understan > > > > > able._________________________________________________________ > > > > > > " perfectly understandable " my ass.It's till " death do us > > > part " not " untill any problem,you can't deal,with should > > > arise,do you part " Jimmy(who has a half sister one year older > > > then him) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Re: til death due you part.... thats beautiful jd, but .... what if you were 25, your wife was in tat statefor 15 years and it was just a matter of time ________________________________________________________ So you dump your spouse if "she"is dying.tsk,tsk,tsk......Ahhhh but who am I to judge. Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Re: til death due you part.... thats beautiful jd, but .... what if you were 25, your wife was in tat statefor 15 years and it was just a matter of time ________________________________________________________ So you dump your spouse if "she"is dying.tsk,tsk,tsk......Ahhhh but who am I to judge. Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 I used to take care of two young men that were in a progressive vegitative state. They were that way for years and it was more than sad. I have made arrangements if I ever am at the point without active brain waves that they are to stop the vent and let me go. Hard to discuss with family but so much what I believe in, to die with dignity. I have also signed the national organ donor registery as well. Anyone that is considering doing this please think about it because I have a friend waiting for a liver and he probably won't get one in time:( Hope this is not too morbid for anyone I just wanted to reply to this. Lori Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 I used to take care of two young men that were in a progressive vegitative state. They were that way for years and it was more than sad. I have made arrangements if I ever am at the point without active brain waves that they are to stop the vent and let me go. Hard to discuss with family but so much what I believe in, to die with dignity. I have also signed the national organ donor registery as well. Anyone that is considering doing this please think about it because I have a friend waiting for a liver and he probably won't get one in time:( Hope this is not too morbid for anyone I just wanted to reply to this. Lori Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Good post Lori Jo, and a good point. Great to have you back~~Lowi:) Re: til death due you part.... > I used to take care of two young men that were in a progressive vegitative > state. They were that way for years and it was more than sad. I have made > arrangements if I ever am at the point without active brain waves that they > are to stop the vent and let me go. Hard to discuss with family but so much > what I believe in, to die with dignity. I have also signed the national organ > donor registery as well. Anyone that is considering doing this please think > about it because I have a friend waiting for a liver and he probably won't > get one in time:( Hope this is not too morbid for anyone I just wanted to > reply to this. Lori Jo > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2001 Report Share Posted July 25, 2001 In a message dated 7/24/01 3:56:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lphibbs@... writes: << Good post Lori Jo, and a good point. Great to have you back~~Lowi:) >> Thanks Lowi I sure missed everyone and especially my " twin " Lowi Love, Lori Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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