Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 RE: ....was always told not to have two virus scans on your 'puter. If you change scans, you should ALWAYS uninstall the one you don't want completely, then install the new one. uh oh, what if you don't? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2001 Report Share Posted December 1, 2001 THAT I don't know ... sorry! Someone else may be able to enlighten us on that one. I CAN tell you that Norton came to a screeching halt at installation when it detected that I had another virus scan running. I had to uninstall McAfee (which I wasn't happy with anyway), then start the install again. Also, there were components of McAfee that would not uninstall, and Norton had to e-mail me a " removal tool " to get it out. It wasn't until all that was done that I was able to successfully install Norton. I much prefer Norton BTW. I'll try to find out more and get back to you. Shel Re: Virus > RE: > > ...was always told not to have two virus scans on your 'puter. > If you change scans, you should ALWAYS uninstall the one > you don't want completely, then install the new one. > > uh oh, what if you don't? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to nmtc-unsubscribe > > PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Hello floradora@... (~Floradora), In reference to your comment: è This was part of the info at the top of the message, so I è guess it was my OE settings maybe that made it è come through as mime? Probably, since mime is basically the generic " I don't know what it is " type file This makes me VERY glad that AOL has mail filters on so that we can't get viruses JUST by opening email Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Hello floradora@... (~Floradora), In reference to your comment: è Well there ya go, I learned something from all this. Very happy to oblige. It's nice to know that monster computer dictionary I bought came in handy. Every now and then I have to drag it out to check something, so I guess that makes it worth what I paid for it. I actually oversimplified the definition of a mime file. It's not only a " I don't know what it is " but it's the generic, default, if you will, type of file that can be delivered quickly and easily over the web. It COULD be anything... txt, doc, gif, etc. The safest bet, though, it if it's a mime..do NOT download it. Zips and exe files are dangerous as well. A doc file is iffy. Wav, bmp, jpg and (I think) MP3s are safe and can't harbor sneaky little nasties that mess up your puter. A txt file is USUALLY safe since the formatting is replaced with gibberish. Anything else is suspect and should not be downloaded unless you are REALLY curious, in which case, as I said, download it to a floppy and then scan the floppy. If you find a virus or trojan, it's a simple matter to throw the floppy in the garbage. Ok... class dismissed <grin> Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 This was part of the info at the top of the message, so I guess it was my OE settings maybe that made it come through as mime? X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary= " ----=_NextPart_000_0082_017A9D4B.DE9D4B10 " Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Re: Virus Hello floradora@... (~Floradora), In reference to your comment: è I don't really understand how it got through. I was surprised myself when I saw it. It showed up as a txt attachment, not a mime, but since I know NMTC doesn't allow attachments, I didn't download it, figuring it was not a good thing. I wonder if it didn't actually come through the list, but was sent directly to people at their private addresses, but was put in the subject line to make it look like it came through the list. Anyway, I've said it before, and it bears repeating... DO NOT download attachments to emails unless you are positive you know what they are.. Even then it would be safer to download to a floppy and run a virus scan on the floppy ... you can always throw the floppy in the trash (they aren't that expensive) and save your computer Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). --- My outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release Date: 1/2/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Well there ya go, I learned something from all this. LOL I was never really sure what mime was and I guess I just never took the time to read up on it. At least I have an idea now. I can go in and change those settings. I'll ask my computer tech (Quixote). lol Trisha >Probably, since mime is basically the generic " I don't know what it is " type >file This makes me VERY glad that AOL has mail filters on so that we >can't get viruses JUST by opening email --- My outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release Date: 1/2/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 I think you're right Jan...I didn't get it. val In reference to your comment: è Those who got it - was it to the list or to individuals on è the list? There wasn't any To: at the top of the email so I checked the return path at the bottom of the email, and apparently it was sent individually just as I suspected with NMTC in the subject line to make it LOOK like it came through the list. Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to nmtc-unsubscribe PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 I don't know if this will make anyone feel any better or not, but I DID get the message. Which is strange, because the school has some serious virus detection software and hardware fire walls, assuring that viruses seldom get through. They are detected and deleted before delivery, and we get a message saying that the system detected a virus (and incapacitated it) in an incoming e-mail. Even messages that don't get scanned and culled by the Yahoo! software get the " third degree " from the school software/hardware. So, I called the system administrator to get his opinion on the message. The version I received is one long code, not an attachment (I use Eudora because of the vulnerability of Outlook Express). He says that since it's not an attachment and I didn't have to open the message to read the code in the preview pane, it's PROBABLY not dangerous--but it should be deleted and removed from the trash. Just thought I'd pass that on, for what it's worth. Valeria At 03:13 PM 1/8/2002 -0600, ~Floradora wrote: >This was part of the info at the top of the message, so I >guess it was my OE settings maybe that made it come through >as mime? > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Priority: 3 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/mixed; >boundary= " ----=_NextPart_000_0082_017A9D4B.DE9D4B10 " >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Re: Virus > > >Hello floradora@... (~Floradora), > >In reference to your comment: > >è I don't really understand how it got through. > >I was surprised myself when I saw it. It showed up as a txt >attachment, not >a mime, but since I know NMTC doesn't allow attachments, I >didn't download >it, figuring it was not a good thing. > >I wonder if it didn't actually come through the list, but >was sent directly >to people at their private addresses, but was put in >the subject line >to make it look like it came through the list. > >Anyway, I've said it before, and it bears repeating... DO >NOT download >attachments to emails unless you are positive you know what >they are.. Even >then it would be safer to download to a floppy and run a >virus scan on the >floppy ... you can always throw the floppy in the trash >(they aren't that >expensive) and save your computer > > > >Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) >Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, >whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). > > >--- >My outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release Date: >1/2/02 > > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to >nmtc-unsubscribe > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Valeria, Thank you, thank you, thank you. That is exactly what my situation is, with the hardware and software firewalls, viruses being incapacitated before they come through, etc. Unfortunately, we don't have a number to call, just an e-mail address for virus tracker and not only have I not received an answer from them, but they haven't even read the e-mail I sent asking if them if I might have a problem. From all the e-mail that is going around, I was beginning to get afraid to send any e-mails because I was afraid I was infected. I don't usually panic about things, but this time I did. So thanks for letting us know what you found out. I will quit worrying, at least until I hear from our virus tracker. Thanks again, Margaret >>> Valeria Truitt 01/08/02 04:33PM >>> I don't know if this will make anyone feel any better or not, but I DID get the message. Which is strange, because the school has some serious virus detection software and hardware fire walls, assuring that viruses seldom get through. They are detected and deleted before delivery, and we get a message saying that the system detected a virus (and incapacitated it) in an incoming e-mail. Even messages that don't get scanned and culled by the Yahoo! software get the " third degree " from the school software/hardware. So, I called the system administrator to get his opinion on the message. The version I received is one long code, not an attachment (I use Eudora because of the vulnerability of Outlook Express). He says that since it's not an attachment and I didn't have to open the message to read the code in the preview pane, it's PROBABLY not dangerous--but it should be deleted and removed from the trash. Just thought I'd pass that on, for what it's worth. Valeria At 03:13 PM 1/8/2002 -0600, ~Floradora wrote: >This was part of the info at the top of the message, so I >guess it was my OE settings maybe that made it come through >as mime? > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Priority: 3 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/mixed; >boundary= " ----=_NextPart_000_0082_017A9D4B.DE9D4B10 " >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Re: Virus > > >Hello floradora@... (~Floradora), > >In reference to your comment: > >è I don't really understand how it got through. > >I was surprised myself when I saw it. It showed up as a txt >attachment, not >a mime, but since I know NMTC doesn't allow attachments, I >didn't download >it, figuring it was not a good thing. > >I wonder if it didn't actually come through the list, but >was sent directly >to people at their private addresses, but was put in >the subject line >to make it look like it came through the list. > >Anyway, I've said it before, and it bears repeating... DO >NOT download >attachments to emails unless you are positive you know what >they are.. Even >then it would be safer to download to a floppy and run a >virus scan on the >floppy ... you can always throw the floppy in the trash >(they aren't that >expensive) and save your computer > > > >Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) >Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, >whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). > > >--- >My outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release Date: >1/2/02 > > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to >nmtc-unsubscribe > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 I am now just reading all these virus messages. I too received it as a regular email with no attachments. It seems to be all kinds of " A " across and down the page. I wonder too if I should now check my Norton's since it did not come through as an attachment. I already deleted it but it is probably sitting in my trash file. Aliceanne On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:04:33 -0500 " Margaret Grant " writes: > Trisha, I just checked my trash. That did not come through with an > attachment, it is all just one very, very long message. So now I am > wondering if I could have gotten a virus just by opening that > message. I am going to be contacting my virus folks at my work, but > I don't want to send them the message just in case the message > itself is actually a virus. I don't understand how this works > either, but this one did come through. Margaret > > >>> " ~Floradora " 01/08/02 03:54PM > >>> > I don't really understand how it got through. I checked the > settings for the list and it is still set for no > attachments. I think it has something to do with it being > mime or something? I don't really understand that part. > Scary though, that an attachment of some sort did make it > through. I hope everyone will get virus check programs and > keep them up to date. ) > > Trisha > > > Re: Virus > > > Hello floradora@... (~Floradora), > > In reference to your comment: > > è The message came from Nolen > è > > I received that message with a text attachment, but > naturally, I didn't > download the attachment. Good thinking on my part > apparently > > > > Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) > Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, > whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 I am now just reading all these virus messages. I too received it as a regular email with no attachments. It seems to be all kinds of " A " across and down the page. I wonder too if I should now check my Norton's since it did not come through as an attachment. I already deleted it but it is probably sitting in my trash file. Aliceanne On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:04:33 -0500 " Margaret Grant " writes: > Trisha, I just checked my trash. That did not come through with an > attachment, it is all just one very, very long message. So now I am > wondering if I could have gotten a virus just by opening that > message. I am going to be contacting my virus folks at my work, but > I don't want to send them the message just in case the message > itself is actually a virus. I don't understand how this works > either, but this one did come through. Margaret > > >>> " ~Floradora " 01/08/02 03:54PM > >>> > I don't really understand how it got through. I checked the > settings for the list and it is still set for no > attachments. I think it has something to do with it being > mime or something? I don't really understand that part. > Scary though, that an attachment of some sort did make it > through. I hope everyone will get virus check programs and > keep them up to date. ) > > Trisha > > > Re: Virus > > > Hello floradora@... (~Floradora), > > In reference to your comment: > > è The message came from Nolen > è > > I received that message with a text attachment, but > naturally, I didn't > download the attachment. Good thinking on my part > apparently > > > > Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) > Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, > whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Something tells me I should get one of these?! Thanks for the info. Aliceanne On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:36:30 EST JanTranscribes@... writes: > Hello floradora@... (~Floradora), > > In reference to your comment: > > è Well there ya go, I learned something from all this. > > Very happy to oblige. It's nice to know that monster computer > dictionary > I bought came in handy. Every now and then I have to drag it out > to check > something, so I guess that makes it worth what I paid for it. I > actually > oversimplified the definition of a mime file. It's not only a " I > don't know > what it is " but it's the generic, default, if you will, type of file > that can > be delivered quickly and easily over the web. It COULD be > anything... txt, > doc, gif, etc. The safest bet, though, it if it's a mime..do NOT > download > it. Zips and exe files are dangerous as well. A doc file is iffy. > Wav, > bmp, jpg and (I think) MP3s are safe and can't harbor sneaky little > nasties > that mess up your puter. A txt file is USUALLY safe since the > formatting is > replaced with gibberish. Anything else is suspect and should not be > > downloaded unless you are REALLY curious, in which case, as I said, > download > it to a floppy and then scan the floppy. If you find a virus or > trojan, it's > a simple matter to throw the floppy in the garbage. > > Ok... class dismissed <grin> > > > > > > > Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) > Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, > whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Aliceanne, Don't forget to go to your trash and delete it again, then it will be completely deleted from your computer. Just a safety precaution which should always be taken when there is a question of a virus. Margaret >>> Alice A Sawyer 01/08/02 09:20PM >>> I am now just reading all these virus messages. I too received it as a regular email with no attachments. It seems to be all kinds of " A " across and down the page. I wonder too if I should now check my Norton's since it did not come through as an attachment. I already deleted it but it is probably sitting in my trash file. Aliceanne On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:04:33 -0500 " Margaret Grant " writes: > Trisha, I just checked my trash. That did not come through with an > attachment, it is all just one very, very long message. So now I am > wondering if I could have gotten a virus just by opening that > message. I am going to be contacting my virus folks at my work, but > I don't want to send them the message just in case the message > itself is actually a virus. I don't understand how this works > either, but this one did come through. Margaret > > >>> " ~Floradora " 01/08/02 03:54PM > >>> > I don't really understand how it got through. I checked the > settings for the list and it is still set for no > attachments. I think it has something to do with it being > mime or something? I don't really understand that part. > Scary though, that an attachment of some sort did make it > through. I hope everyone will get virus check programs and > keep them up to date. ) > > Trisha > > > Re: Virus > > > Hello floradora@... (~Floradora), > > In reference to your comment: > > è The message came from Nolen > è > > I received that message with a text attachment, but > naturally, I didn't > download the attachment. Good thinking on my part > apparently > > > > Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) > Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, > whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Aliceanne, Don't forget to go to your trash and delete it again, then it will be completely deleted from your computer. Just a safety precaution which should always be taken when there is a question of a virus. Margaret >>> Alice A Sawyer 01/08/02 09:20PM >>> I am now just reading all these virus messages. I too received it as a regular email with no attachments. It seems to be all kinds of " A " across and down the page. I wonder too if I should now check my Norton's since it did not come through as an attachment. I already deleted it but it is probably sitting in my trash file. Aliceanne On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:04:33 -0500 " Margaret Grant " writes: > Trisha, I just checked my trash. That did not come through with an > attachment, it is all just one very, very long message. So now I am > wondering if I could have gotten a virus just by opening that > message. I am going to be contacting my virus folks at my work, but > I don't want to send them the message just in case the message > itself is actually a virus. I don't understand how this works > either, but this one did come through. Margaret > > >>> " ~Floradora " 01/08/02 03:54PM > >>> > I don't really understand how it got through. I checked the > settings for the list and it is still set for no > attachments. I think it has something to do with it being > mime or something? I don't really understand that part. > Scary though, that an attachment of some sort did make it > through. I hope everyone will get virus check programs and > keep them up to date. ) > > Trisha > > > Re: Virus > > > Hello floradora@... (~Floradora), > > In reference to your comment: > > è The message came from Nolen > è > > I received that message with a text attachment, but > naturally, I didn't > download the attachment. Good thinking on my part > apparently > > > > Jan " Typing is my life " (said sarcastically) > Remember... WSTPMTR (which means, > whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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