Guest guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Share Posted June 15, 2002 Not only did the ST recommend signing, so did the occupational therapist to help in finger and hand movement coordination. I have never heard of a therapist say not to sign. Thank you >From: " marina3029 " <philipmary@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [ ] Signing >Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 15:46:56 -0000 > >I was also told by a therapist not to sign to an apraxic child. They >didn't give me a reason, but bc I didn't agree and didn't want to >fight, I didn't ask... > >We used a few signs with our sons - More, go, want, etc.. We also >developed a " do you want X " (point to right hand) " or Y " (point to >left hand). It worked really well because we could say: steak or >chicken, chicken or fish, chicken or peanut butter, chicken or mac n >cheese? It was our own little conversation!! Before that it was >just me talking AT him or him telling me what he needed. This was a >proffering of choice and an INTERACTION which we all know is >difficult to do with apraxic kids - to communicate back and forth >with them at 1.5 or 2. > >GO WITH YOUR GUT!! >Marina > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 Perhaps it was that we as parents don't sign TO an apraxic child with no receptive difficulties since they can hear and understand perfectly well, but they sign back to us in order to communicate if they can't get the point across verbally? > > I was also told by a therapist not to sign to an apraxic child. > They > > didn't give me a reason, but bc I didn't agree and didn't want to > > fight, I didn't ask... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2002 Report Share Posted June 16, 2002 Soon as I started takig to speech therapy I started classes at a local college for sign language. This was before he was dx w/ verbal apraxia. I thought it would be great way o communicate with m son b/c I so badly want to know what goes throuh his little head. After I started teaching him some of the basic signs and told the speech therapit she said that some of the basics would be fine but not to focus on signing b/c it would make him feel that since h can communicate in signing that it wuld slow is progression in talking. I thought it was a bunch of bull but me not being the one who has a degree in this area stuk to the basics on signing and focused more on him talking. Amber >axiaontario <apraxiaontario@...> wrote: Perhaps it was that we as >parents don't sign TO an apraxic child with >no receptive difficulties since they can hear and understand >perfectly well, but they sign back to us in order to communicate if >they can't get the point across verbally? > > do you know why it would not be recommended to sign? That does > not make sense to me! Traci > > > I was also told by a therapist not to sign to an apraxic child. > They > > didn't give me a reason, but bc I didn't agree and didn't want to > > fight, I didn't ask... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 In a message dated 6/15/02 8:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: <<<< > I was also told by a therapist not to sign to an apraxic child " ------------------- Although I have not keep up with the posting's lately, I had to jump in on this one. There are several philosophies in the Deaf Culture even on Sign Language!! I have been told by one of the TOP Audiologists at the one of the best centers for the deaf & hard of hearing NOT to sign to my child. I had many sleepless nights, am I doing the right thing/wrong thing? Will my child rely on this rather than use his voice and many other " what if's. Bottom line, we sign....I did not want a frustrated child. If his hearing loss was as mild as they say, then his speech will come AND he will also be exposed to another language. ( my daughter just had 3 weeks of Swahili ??when will she ever use that?) Well his speech didn't come along as everyone expected and after many tests,doctors and specialists.......here we are on the apraxia list from the day started it........................( a million thanx to Ask your therapist to back up her statement and why she would recommend not to sign? Then do what is best for you and your child. What's wrong with learning another language anyway.? I'm running off to the beach now on my first day off in 2 1/2 weeks Have a good day!!!! Lori D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2002 Report Share Posted June 17, 2002 In order to help my son and becouse I like very much the matter, I'm studying a phD in Linguistics. A child MUST develope a way to communicate. If speech is difficult, let him fin the easyer way to communicate. THe main problem with sign language is that it's another language, with different structure and different perspective. But our children don't learn sign language; they learn sign speech (exact Elglish or whatever you want to say) or an augmentative way to communicate following speech. In that case, structure is the same and they are able to follow speech, only augmented with signs. na ----- Original Message ----- From: ssbsmkbab@... The main reason that I've heard to not use sigining in a structured way with Apraxia was because it would take the emphasis away from the speech. Essentially the child learns to communicate using the sign language and the urgency is no longer there with the speech. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 We used to sign with/for our son and use alot of PECS picture boards. He didn't talk until age 6. His signing was very clumsy due to CP. But it's kinda cool that we can still sign a couple of words across a crowded room and get it. He's 13 now. Debra the Zookeeper > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 04:04:47 -0000 > From: " jksdfs " <jksdfs@...> >Subject: Re: More Therapies and AS >I've been signing with Connor (age 3.0) as much as I can for about 1- >2 months. I'm taking an Signing Exact English class and using as >many words as I can. It is very difficult for me to remember to do, >to remember the signs, to sign fast enough, to have my hands free to >sign and to sign in Connor's field of view. My husband is also >trying to learn and sign with Connor. Our ST signs with him. So far >he only signs socks and shoes. I am going to keep on learning and >give it a full 6 months or so to see if he ever picks it up. >I've heard only good things about signing for apraxic kids so we are >willing to give this our all. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Hi , We (me and Liam) took a signing class in my city that was for hearing babies. It was wonderful and I highly recommend it! They had a book that came with the class and a chart for quick reference. To learn more about the class I took go to .... http://www.sign2me.com You can also view a streaming video at this site that shows babies signing. It is so neat to watch. My son Liam (2.5 yrs old) now signs over 50 signs on a regular basis. It cut down on his frustration level and mine too. I'm so happy we took this course!! It was the best thing I did for my non-verbal son. Donna (Mom to Liam 2.5 Verbal Apraxia, no words yet) > Anyone have any recommendations on a beginning signing book? My > son's ST gave us a packet, but it really doesn't have many signs, > and I would like to start teaching Kristopher colors and shapes > which aren't in there at all. I've checked Amazon and there is such > an abundance of books, I just want to make sure I get the " right " > one. Thanks in advance. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 I agree with some of the other replies... www.sign2me.com <http://www.sign2me.com/> is excellent, www.signingtime.com <http://www.signingtime.com/> is excellent too. As a SLP, I would recommend any approach that uses ASL (American Sign Language) and not signs you just make up yourself (as in Baby Signs). More other people will understand your son's sign attempts if they are based on ASL. Most sign books are either in category or dictionary format. Personally I think it depends on the book. There are a lot of good ones out there...look at the table of contents to see what types of signs are included. Also, at stores like CompUSA and Best Buy you may find a $5 cd on how to learn how to sign. These cds have video clips that show how to make the sign in real time. The one I have is called: Instant Immersion American Sign Language..made by topics entertainment (www.topics-ent.com <http://www.topics-ent.com/> ) Also, as someone mentioned earlier, on the sign2me website they have listed people who teach classes for kids and parents.there may be one in your area. Hope this info is helpful! :-) Barbara A. , M.S.,CCC-SLP Speech-Language Pathologist Help Me Speak Stampin'Up! Demonstrator Help Me Stamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 we used sign in the beginning and it really helped. We now use the Picture exchange system and that has been the best so far. We got it through Mayer Web site Good luck, -- [ ] Re: Signing Hi , We (me and Liam) took a signing class in my city that was for hearing babies. It was wonderful and I highly recommend it! They had a book that came with the class and a chart for quick reference. To learn more about the class I took go to .... http://www.sign2me.com You can also view a streaming video at this site that shows babies signing. It is so neat to watch. My son Liam (2.5 yrs old) now signs over 50 signs on a regular basis. It cut down on his frustration level and mine too. I'm so happy we took this course!! It was the best thing I did for my non-verbal son. Donna (Mom to Liam 2.5 Verbal Apraxia, no words yet) > Anyone have any recommendations on a beginning signing book? My > son's ST gave us a packet, but it really doesn't have many signs, > and I would like to start teaching Kristopher colors and shapes > which aren't in there at all. I've checked Amazon and there is such > an abundance of books, I just want to make sure I get the " right " > one. Thanks in advance. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 We have recently ordered the videos from www.signingtimes.com . They are really good! The music and quality are much better than anything I've seen. My son uses both signs and speech, but picks up new signs all the time from these videos. I definitely think that starting with a good book to teach 1:1 is the best way to start, but these videos are a great supplement and make it fun! Renn [ ] Signing Anyone have any recommendations on a beginning signing book? My son's ST gave us a packet, but it really doesn't have many signs, and I would like to start teaching Kristopher colors and shapes which aren't in there at all. I've checked Amazon and there is such an abundance of books, I just want to make sure I get the " right " one. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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