Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Hello Tom, Thank you for sharing your expertise with us! Perhaps you could cover referred pain. I have noticed, lately, that I have pain that seems to referr from the left side of the vestibule to the back of the left knee. Your comments would be most welcome. Ruth (Ruthiema) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Hi Ruth and all, Referred pain is pain that travels along the same nerve trunks from the periphery (far away from the central nervous system) proximally to the brain. So if pudendal nerve pain travels on the S2,S3,S4 nerve roots back to the central nervous system, it may also make you think that your sciatic nerve / hamstrings and bottom of your foot may seem to hurt. This is because those structures are all inervated (supplied by) the same nerve. Even though there maybe nothing wrong with the siatic nerve and it's distribution, your brain cannot distinguish between the two. It thinks there is a problem with any and or all parts suppied by the same nerve. I hope this helped, let me know if you need more clarification. TKOPT ruthiema36 wrote: >Hello Tom, >Thank you for sharing your expertise with us! Perhaps you could cover >referred pain. I have noticed, lately, that I have pain that seems to >referr from the left side of the vestibule to the back of the left >knee. Your comments would be most welcome. >Ruth (Ruthiema) > > > > >*****END OF MESSAGE/REMOVE WHEN REPLYING***** >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders >to search our archive or view our files. > >*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 I think I understand that referred pain means that the place where you feel pain isn't the source of the pain. How does one, however, locate the source from which the referred pain originated? If the source isn't healed or corrected, how do we get better? I'm sorry if its a stupid question......as long as I've had back trouble, you'd think I'd have a better grasp of this. Dusty -----Original Message-----From: Tom Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:46 PMTo: VulvarDisorders Subject: Re: Tom,referred painHi Ruth and all,Referred pain is pain that travels along the same nerve trunks from the periphery (far away from the central nervous system) proximally to the brain. So if pudendal nerve pain travels on the S2,S3,S4 nerve roots back to the central nervous system, it may also make you think that your sciatic nerve / hamstrings and bottom of your foot may seem to hurt. This is because those structures are all inervated (supplied by) the same nerve. Even though there maybe nothing wrong with the siatic nerve and it's distribution, your brain cannot distinguish between the two. It thinks there is a problem with any and or all parts suppied by the same nerve. I hope this helped, let me know if you need more clarification.TKOPTruthiema36 wrote:>Hello Tom,>Thank you for sharing your expertise with us! Perhaps you could cover>referred pain. I have noticed, lately, that I have pain that seems to>referr from the left side of the vestibule to the back of the left>knee. Your comments would be most welcome.>Ruth (Ruthiema)>>>>>*****END OF MESSAGE/REMOVE WHEN REPLYING*****>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders>to search our archive or view our files.>>*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 Not stupid at all Dusty. You have hit upon a $64,000 question. The general medical model is to throw pain killers after it to see if it goes away, whatever it is. But when the drugs wear off and the pain returns there is no impetus to try to differentiate between the true source and the perceived source. Only and I do mean only by finding a practitioner who is able to eliminate the true cause ( what the Osteopaths call "the primary lesion") can the puzzle be solved and the $64,000 question be answered. Interestingly enough, the worst pain may not always be primary lesion. Sometimes, you correct the dysfucntion and eliminate the pain and a new pain "appears". What really happened is the worst pain was overpowering the other pain that had been there all the time. You just didn't know it because the worst pain hid it. Sometimes you have to peal the union a few times to find the real cause. A great question!!! TKOPT www.tomocklerpt.com Dusty wrote: Message I think I understand that referred pain means that the place where you feel pain isn't the source of the pain. How does one, however, locate the source from which the referred pain originated? If the source isn't healed or corrected, how do we get better? I'm sorry if its a stupid question......as long as I've had back trouble, you'd think I'd have a better grasp of this. Dusty Re: Tom,referred pain Hi Ruth and all, Referred pain is pain that travels along the same nerve trunks from the periphery (far away from the central nervous system) proximally to the brain. So if pudendal nerve pain travels on the S2,S3,S4 nerve roots back to the central nervous system, it may also make you think that your sciatic nerve / hamstrings and bottom of your foot may seem to hurt. This is because those structures are all inervated (supplied by) the same nerve. Even though there maybe nothing wrong with the siatic nerve and it's distribution, your brain cannot distinguish between the two. It thinks there is a problem with any and or all parts suppied by the same nerve. I hope this helped, let me know if you need more clarification. TKOPT ruthiema36 wrote: >Hello Tom, >Thank you for sharing your expertise with us! Perhaps you could cover >referred pain. I have noticed, lately, that I have pain that seems to >referr from the left side of the vestibule to the back of the left >knee. Your comments would be most welcome. >Ruth (Ruthiema) > > > > >*****END OF MESSAGE/REMOVE WHEN REPLYING***** >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders >to search our archive or view our files. > >*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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