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These are good. Will you pass on the responses to us just in case someone

does not do the NMTC group response.

Thanks.

Aliceanne

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:47:43 -0500 N

writes:

> Hi, everyone,

>

> Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I worked through the holiday,

> but

> didn't really mind knowing that a great meal was waiting for me at

> the

> end of the day :-).

>

> I am struggling with comma usage in a few different instances and

> was

> hoping a few of you could take a few minutes and add commas where

> you

> think they should be in the following sentences. Then I'm going to

> print

> them out and use them as guides for the future. I run into these

> (and

> similar) sentences over and over again, and I'm just not sure where

> the

> commmas should be (if any). Thanks in advance for any help you can

> offer

> me!

>

> S.

> RT@...

> Upright PA and lateral chest radiographs show....

>

> A single portable view of the chest shows.....

>

> Single AP chest shows.....

>

> The lungs show a progressive bilateral fine reticular interstitial

> pattern of abnormality.

>

> Examination shows that there is gradually improving left lower lobe

> aeration with persistent associated small subpulmonic left pleural

> effusion, which has not change significantly from prior films.

>

> Two portable intraoperative angiographic spot films are submitted

> for

> interpretation.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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LOL...these are real doozies. Someone else might have better answers.

I'm not really sure on the first one at all as I don't know if those are all

different views or if the PA and lateral chest radiographs are both upright.

So it's either no commas at all or Upright, PA, and lateral chest...

I don't think the next two beginnings of sentences need any commas.

Then my guesses would be:

The lungs show a progressive bilateral, fine reticular, interstitial

pattern of abnormality.

Examination shows that there is gradually improving left-lower-lobe

aeration with persistent, associated, small subpulmonic left pleural

effusion, which has not change significantly from prior films.

(Does anyone think maybe there should be a comma after " small " as well, and

possibly another hyphen in " left-pleural " ? I know I've seen

" left-lower-lobe " done that way when used as an adjective, but I don't think

I've seen " left pleural " done that way and was wondering why not.)

....and finally:

Two portable, intraoperative, angiographic spot films are submitted for

interpretation.

Again, these are just my guesses. The commas often get me confused, too,

when there a whole lot of adjectives! :o)

----Original Message Follows----

To: nmtc

Subject: commas

Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:47:43 -0500

Hi, everyone,

Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I worked through the holiday, but

didn't really mind knowing that a great meal was waiting for me at the

end of the day :-).

I am struggling with comma usage in a few different instances and was

hoping a few of you could take a few minutes and add commas where you

think they should be in the following sentences. Then I'm going to print

them out and use them as guides for the future. I run into these (and

similar) sentences over and over again, and I'm just not sure where the

commmas should be (if any). Thanks in advance for any help you can offer

me!

S.

RT@...

Upright PA and lateral chest radiographs show....

A single portable view of the chest shows.....

Single AP chest shows.....

The lungs show a progressive bilateral fine reticular interstitial

pattern of abnormality.

Examination shows that there is gradually improving left lower lobe

aeration with persistent associated small subpulmonic left pleural

effusion, which has not change significantly from prior films.

Two portable intraoperative angiographic spot films are submitted for

interpretation.

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My 2 cents is below. :P

Upright PA and lateral chest radiographs show.... (no commas)

A single portable view of the chest shows..... (no commas)

Single AP chest shows..... (no commas)

The lungs show a progressive, bilateral, fine reticular interstitial

pattern of abnormality.

Examination shows that there is gradually improving left lower lobe

aeration, with persistent associated small subpulmonic left pleural

effusion, which has not changed significantly from prior films.

Two portable intraoperative angiographic spot films are submitted for

interpretation.

p.s.

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,

You did a good job of punctuating these sentences! Most people go overboard on

commas and put one

wherever the dictator takes a breath; you showed remarkable restraint! You

probably will get a

number of different opinions, though, so I hope these explanations are helpful.

Upright PA and lateral chest radiographs show.... (no commas required--upright

modifies both PA and

lateral)

A single portable view of the chest shows..... (no comma required--portable

refers to a bedside

x-ray)

Single AP chest shows..... (no comma required)

The lungs show a progressive, bilateral fine reticular interstitial pattern of

abnormality.

(progressive and bilateral are equal-weight adjectives; the comma could be

replaced with the word

" and " or the two words could be reversed and the meaning would not be changed)

Examination shows that there is gradually improving left lower lobe aeration

with persistent

associated small subpulmonic left pleural effusion, which has not changed

significantly from prior

films. [No additional commas are needed. I wonder about that nonessential

" which " clause,

though--if it is important information, you might change the " which " to " that "

and omit the comma.]

Two portable intraoperative angiographic spot films are submitted for

interpretation. [no comma

required]

That's my 2 cents' worth--I'll put it on your tab.

Valeria

N wrote:

> Hi, everyone,

>

> Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I worked through the holiday, but

> didn't really mind knowing that a great meal was waiting for me at the

> end of the day :-).

>

> I am struggling with comma usage in a few different instances and was

> hoping a few of you could take a few minutes and add commas where you

> think they should be in the following sentences. Then I'm going to print

> them out and use them as guides for the future. I run into these (and

> similar) sentences over and over again, and I'm just not sure where the

> commmas should be (if any). Thanks in advance for any help you can offer

> me!

>

> S.

> RT@...

> Upright PA and lateral chest radiographs show....

>

> A single portable view of the chest shows.....

>

> Single AP chest shows.....

>

> The lungs show a progressive bilateral fine reticular interstitial

> pattern of abnormality.

>

> Examination shows that there is gradually improving left lower lobe

> aeration with persistent associated small subpulmonic left pleural

> effusion, which has not change significantly from prior films.

>

> Two portable intraoperative angiographic spot films are submitted for

> interpretation.

--

Valeria D. Truitt Phone

Medical Office Administration Fax

Craven Community College Office E-109

New Bern, NC 28562 e-mail vtruitt@...

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Anson Heinlein

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This is an excellent explanation as to why the commas are and are not

needed! Thank you so much!!

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:58:18 -0500 Valeria Truitt

writes:

> ,

>

> You did a good job of punctuating these sentences! Most people go

> overboard on commas and put one

> wherever the dictator takes a breath; you showed remarkable

> restraint! You probably will get a

> number of different opinions, though, so I hope these explanations

> are helpful.

>

> Upright PA and lateral chest radiographs show.... (no commas

> required--upright modifies both PA and

> lateral)

>

> A single portable view of the chest shows..... (no comma

> required--portable refers to a bedside

> x-ray)

>

> Single AP chest shows..... (no comma required)

>

> The lungs show a progressive, bilateral fine reticular interstitial

> pattern of abnormality.

> (progressive and bilateral are equal-weight adjectives; the comma

> could be replaced with the word

> " and " or the two words could be reversed and the meaning would not

> be changed)

>

> Examination shows that there is gradually improving left lower lobe

> aeration with persistent

> associated small subpulmonic left pleural effusion, which has not

> changed significantly from prior

> films. [No additional commas are needed. I wonder about that

> nonessential " which " clause,

> though--if it is important information, you might change the " which "

> to " that " and omit the comma.]

>

> Two portable intraoperative angiographic spot films are submitted

> for interpretation. [no comma

> required]

>

> That's my 2 cents' worth--I'll put it on your tab.

>

> Valeria

>

> N wrote:

>

> > Hi, everyone,

> >

> > Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I worked through the holiday,

> but

> > didn't really mind knowing that a great meal was waiting for me at

> the

> > end of the day :-).

> >

> > I am struggling with comma usage in a few different instances and

> was

> > hoping a few of you could take a few minutes and add commas where

> you

> > think they should be in the following sentences. Then I'm going to

> print

> > them out and use them as guides for the future. I run into these

> (and

> > similar) sentences over and over again, and I'm just not sure

> where the

> > commmas should be (if any). Thanks in advance for any help you

> can offer

> > me!

> >

> > S.

> > RT@...

> > Upright PA and lateral chest radiographs show....

> >

> > A single portable view of the chest shows.....

> >

> > Single AP chest shows.....

> >

> > The lungs show a progressive bilateral fine reticular interstitial

> > pattern of abnormality.

> >

> > Examination shows that there is gradually improving left lower

> lobe

> > aeration with persistent associated small subpulmonic left pleural

> > effusion, which has not change significantly from prior films.

> >

> > Two portable intraoperative angiographic spot films are submitted

> for

> > interpretation.

>

> --

>

> Valeria D. Truitt Phone

> Medical Office Administration Fax

> Craven Community College Office E-109

> New Bern, NC 28562 e-mail vtruitt@...

>

> There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Anson Heinlein

>

>

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I AM SO HAPPY WE HAVE AN INSTRUCTOR ABOARD. THIS IS GREAT AND THIS IS A

BIG PROBLEM FOR ME. I HAVE A DOCTOR WHO PEPPERS EVERY OTHER WORD WITH AN

ADJECTIVE AND I AM PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE WHO GO OVERBOARD.

Juat wanted to thank you.

Aliceanne

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:58:18 -0500 Valeria Truitt

writes:

> ,

>

> You did a good job of punctuating these sentences! Most people go

> overboard on commas and put one

> wherever the dictator takes a breath; you showed remarkable

> restraint! You probably will get a

> number of different opinions, though, so I hope these explanations

> are helpful.

>

> Upright PA and lateral chest radiographs show.... (no commas

> required--upright modifies both PA and

> lateral)

>

> A single portable view of the chest shows..... (no comma

> required--portable refers to a bedside

> x-ray)

>

> Single AP chest shows..... (no comma required)

>

> The lungs show a progressive, bilateral fine reticular interstitial

> pattern of abnormality.

> (progressive and bilateral are equal-weight adjectives; the comma

> could be replaced with the word

> " and " or the two words could be reversed and the meaning would not

> be changed)

>

> Examination shows that there is gradually improving left lower lobe

> aeration with persistent

> associated small subpulmonic left pleural effusion, which has not

> changed significantly from prior

> films. [No additional commas are needed. I wonder about that

> nonessential " which " clause,

> though--if it is important information, you might change the " which "

> to " that " and omit the comma.]

>

> Two portable intraoperative angiographic spot films are submitted

> for interpretation. [no comma

> required]

>

> That's my 2 cents' worth--I'll put it on your tab.

>

> Valeria

>

> N wrote:

>

> > Hi, everyone,

> >

> > Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I worked through the holiday,

> but

> > didn't really mind knowing that a great meal was waiting for me at

> the

> > end of the day :-).

> >

> > I am struggling with comma usage in a few different instances and

> was

> > hoping a few of you could take a few minutes and add commas where

> you

> > think they should be in the following sentences. Then I'm going to

> print

> > them out and use them as guides for the future. I run into these

> (and

> > similar) sentences over and over again, and I'm just not sure

> where the

> > commmas should be (if any). Thanks in advance for any help you

> can offer

> > me!

> >

> > S.

> > RT@...

> > Upright PA and lateral chest radiographs show....

> >

> > A single portable view of the chest shows.....

> >

> > Single AP chest shows.....

> >

> > The lungs show a progressive bilateral fine reticular

> interstitial

> > pattern of abnormality.

> >

> > Examination shows that there is gradually improving left lower

> lobe

> > aeration with persistent associated small subpulmonic left

> pleural

> > effusion, which has not change significantly from prior films.

> >

> > Two portable intraoperative angiographic spot films are submitted

> for

> > interpretation.

>

> --

>

> Valeria D. Truitt Phone

> Medical Office Administration Fax

> Craven Community College Office E-109

> New Bern, NC 28562 e-mail vtruitt@...

>

> There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Anson Heinlein

>

>

>

>

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I would leave out the first one maybe??? and possibly add some around " of

course " : " ...Dr. xxx who is a podiatrist, who, of course, did foot surgery. "

What do you think?

----Original Message Follows----

From: Transcribeit2@...

To: vtruitt@..., nmtc

Subject: Re: commas

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 02:31:47 EST

Here is a good one for ya. What is the proper placement of commas in this?

He then went to see Dr. xxx, who is a podiatrist, who of course did foot

surgery.

THANKS!!!

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