Re: Lidex and Aveeno soaks/not helping yet

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In a message dated 9/28/04 7:56:24 PM, VulvarDisorders writes:

<< I'm wondering how long it takes Lidex to be effective against

vulvar itching. I've been on it a week and a half and am still

itching like crazy.

During the time I've been on it, I've kept up the Aveeno sitz baths,

but I honestly think maybe I've developed a sensitivity to it, b/c

now when I soak I feel itchy in the bath, where I didn't before. Is it

even possible to become allergic to colloidal oatmeal? >>

I doubt it's the Aveeno, more than likely it's the Lidex. Lidex is a

corticosteroid (fluocinionide) which should relieve itching and inflammation.

However, steroid creams can also thin the skin and cause chemical burns if you

use

too much or use it long term. Most doctors prescribe it to be used for daily

for two weeks and then on a limited basis after that. I wouldn't think it

could have done any harm yet, but you maybe reacting to the steroid or the

inactive ingredients.

I've never tried the prescription steroid creams, but I think women who have

who haven't seen any improvement within a few weeks discontinue the cream.

I'm sure others who have used steroid creams can provide more information.

Debbie

Tiger

" Hey Tiger, quit bringing quotes from UC to the Bruce list!! :-) " - Jim G.,

5/4/04

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> I'm wondering how long it takes Lidex to be effective against

> vulvar itching. >>

irene,

i'm wondering if you've had an accurate diagnosis yet. and is Lidex

the numbing agent lidocaine/lignocaine? 'cos in my opinion none will

help for itching which is not usually a feature of

vulvodynia/vestibulitis but more likely to be a skin condition such a

lichen sclerosis or excema or yeast.

>>But I'm getting worried - I've been on several

protocols already, and if this Lidex doesn't help I don't want to

itch forever.>>

again, see my comment above,

kay

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Hi Kay,

Lidex is a steroid ointment and it's not the same thing as

Lidocaine, which I understand to be just a temporary numbing

agent. And I have a vulvar specialist who did a biopsy and a

colposcopy and has had me on one protocol prior to this (Elidel)

which didn't work. My diagnosis is sqamous hyperplasia due to

a sweat gland disorder.

Thanks,

Irene

> > I'm wondering how long it takes Lidex to be effective against

> > vulvar itching. >>

>

> irene,

>

> i'm wondering if you've had an accurate diagnosis yet. and is

Lidex

> the numbing agent lidocaine/lignocaine? 'cos in my opinion

none will

> help for itching which is not usually a feature of

> vulvodynia/vestibulitis but more likely to be a skin condition

such a

> lichen sclerosis or excema or yeast.

>

> >>But I'm getting worried - I've been on several

> protocols already, and if this Lidex doesn't help I don't want to

> itch forever.>>

>

> again, see my comment above,

>

> kay

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Have you tried antishitamine topically? Like Benedryl Cream?

I was afraid to use the cream, afraid of reactions so I used the childrens dye and alcohol free (which is taken by mouth by children) topically on my vulvar skin. I started with one small area at a time - so that if I were going to react to anything in it, it would only be on a small spot.

Sometimes - I'm not saying this is so in your case - the water can be too drying if you are doing it frequently. By that I mean that several women (early on in my participation here on the list) suggested rinsing after each urination. After doing this for several days, I became very irritated and chapped, much like the chapped lips (forgive the pun) we all sometimes get.

-----Original Message-----From: Irene Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:19 PMTo: VulvarDisorders Subject: Lidex and Aveeno soaks/not helping yetI'm wondering how long it takes Lidex to be effective against vulvar itching. I've been on it a week and a half and am still itching like crazy. During the time I've been on it, I've kept up the Aveeno sitz baths, but I honestly think maybe I've developed a sensitivity to it, b/c now when I soak I feel itchy in the bath, where I didn't before. Is it even possible to become allergic to colloidal oatmeal?I'm stopping the soaks as of yesterday, and last night I did a tea tree oil sitz bath - just a tiny quantity. Will just continue with that and the Lidex. But I'm getting worried - I've been on several protocols already, and if this Lidex doesn't help I don't want to itch forever.Does it always help, but just take a while?????Thanks,Irene*****END OF MESSAGE/REMOVE WHEN REPLYING*****http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisordersto search our archive or view our files.***

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Hi - I didn't know that there was a benedryl cream. Is it

prescription or OTC? I'm going to call the PA at my docs and do

a sanity check on why Lidex wouldn't work after 12 days and if I

need to be on some other protocol. I'll ask about topical

antihistamines.

I've only been soaking once a day so I doubt it's the water. I just

have this strange feeling I might have become sensitive to

colloidal oatmeal, but have no way of knowing. Is there any other

sitz bath effective against itching? Baking soda? Tee tree oil?

Thanks,

Irene

> Have you tried antishitamine topically? Like Benedryl Cream?

>

> I was afraid to use the cream, afraid of reactions so I used the

childrens

> dye and alcohol free (which is taken by mouth by children)

topically on my

> vulvar skin. I started with one small area at a time - so that if I

were

> going to react to anything in it, it would only be on a small spot.

>

> Sometimes - I'm not saying this is so in your case - the water

can be too

> drying if you are doing it frequently. By that I mean that several

women

> (early on in my participation here on the list) suggested rinsing

after each

> urination. After doing this for several days, I became very

irritated and

> chapped, much like the chapped lips (forgive the pun) we all

sometimes get.

>

>

> Lidex and Aveeno soaks/not helping yet

>

>

> I'm wondering how long it takes Lidex to be effective against

> vulvar itching. I've been on it a week and a half and am still

> itching like crazy.

>

> During the time I've been on it, I've kept up the Aveeno sitz

baths,

> but I honestly think maybe I've developed a sensitivity to it, b/c

> now when I soak I feel itchy in the bath, where I didn't before. Is

it

> even possible to become allergic to colloidal oatmeal?

>

> I'm stopping the soaks as of yesterday, and last night I did a

tea

> tree oil sitz bath - just a tiny quantity. Will just continue with

that

> and the Lidex. But I'm getting worried - I've been on several

> protocols already, and if this Lidex doesn't help I don't want to

> itch forever.

>

> Does it always help, but just take a while?????

>

> Thanks,

> Irene

>

>

>

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