Re: off topic question; disorders in math comprehension

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I don't know if there is an official math disorder but what ever it is I have

it! I tried all through school and college to understand math and have never

been able to conquer it. Not even with extra help and tutoring. The other

things I have problems with is music and foreign languages. Not sure what it

is caused by. I would love to hear if other people have this problem.

Sue (Freezing in Maine)

[Guest guest]

When it comes to math... if I could picture it ok. I had to take drafting to

get through algebra..but beyond learning multiplication tables in word

form.. story problems, calculus, trig, higher math.. totally brain locked.

even with LOTs of tutoring.

Ellen in Tx

Re: off topic question; disorders in math comprehension

> Hi,

>

> I don't know if there is an official math disorder but what ever it is I

have

> it! I tried all through school and college to understand math and have

never

> been able to conquer it. Not even with extra help and tutoring. The other

> things I have problems with is music and foreign languages. Not sure what

it

> is caused by. I would love to hear if other people have this problem.

>

> Sue (Freezing in Maine)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here! Math, music comprehension (reading notes) haven't tried a foreign

language...

Kristi

Re: off topic question; disorders in math comprehension

Hi,

I don't know if there is an official math disorder but what ever it is I have

it! I tried all through school and college to understand math and have never

been able to conquer it. Not even with extra help and tutoring. The other

things I have problems with is music and foreign languages. Not sure what it

is caused by. I would love to hear if other people have this problem.

Sue (Freezing in Maine)

[Guest guest]

> I don't know if there is an official math disorder but what ever it is

I have

it! I tried all through school and college to understand math and have

never

been able to conquer it. Not even with extra help and tutoring. The other

things I have problems with is music and foreign languages. Not sure what

it

is caused by. I would love to hear if other people have this problem.

When I started reading your post, my immediate thought was...have you tried

learning music as this often helps with math. Then I got further down your

post and found the answer.

Can I ask...do you have problem with ALL math, or only particular types. In

particular, are you OK with math that has an application, like telling time,

counting money and working out change. Do you have particular problems with

math with little everyday application, like trigonometry, calculus, algebra.

Is there 'in between' maths like basic geometry (eg working out the volume

of a box that is 2 inches long, 3 inches wide and 4 inches deep) that you

can manage but have trouble retaining?

I'm interested to read your answers.

Cheers, Glenda

[Guest guest]

HEre too

I have heaps of troubles with Maths (always have) and Big troubles

with Physics too (I guess that is pretty maths related though). Ihae

no troubles with foreign languages (I have learnt some Japanese,

French and Auslan (Australian Sign Language)). I can't read music and

remember dimly having troubles with it at school so i never chose to

do it from early on (once you had a choice)I can add simple things in

my head and do simple subtraction too, and even simpe percentages

(like 10% ) and then from there I start to get slow and takes me

ages to work things out without a ream of paper a calculator and

Heaps of frustration (I usually gie up) my partner laughs at me that

I got all the way through school and still can't do anything but ery

simple maths in my head and then nothing major even with a calculator

(I mean I can get buy and most people would never know (and I even

carry a credit card sized calculator in my wallet)I did maths all the

way through school and college and Calculus mught as well hae been

Martian to me, I just couldn't seem to understand it at all even with

HEAPS of personal one on one tutoring, same with Physics. Although I

do remember doing advanced maths in Year 11 as an electie and

enjoying it (but if I remember our teacher taught using a visual type

method (she was the only teacher I really understood when it came to

maths)and this worked for me).

I neer realised there was a reason behind it. (nnow I think of it I

think my brother and sister (my siblings) all have this problem too

and my brother had a LOT of spelling etc problems as a younger person

but we are all avid readers and shocking writers (I guess becuase we

were all undiagnosed hypermobiles).

OOPS Sorry this is soooo long things got away from me , while

reminising and thinking hey that explains ME. LOL.

[Guest guest]

Aj,

Yes, for sure the term for someone who has trouble doing things with numbers,

math, time, etc. is dyscalcula. My daughter has this and has had trouble her

whole life. It can be very disabling in that the person affected has

difficulty with time and money too. She is seventeen and we have had to seek

special vocational help and training, as she wants to get a part time job

like all the other kids do, but as you can see, when you can't manage time,

or money very well, its difficult. As far as the time, it is the concept of

time that confuses her. She can read the time off a clock, but cannot always

tell when fifteen minutes will be up. One time I told her I would be gone an

hour, and she said to me, how long then, fifteen minutes? I told her to try

to figure it out, but each answer showed just how much she needed to guess.

This was when she was fifteen. I try to work with her as much as possible at

home. She is currently in a cooking program, but has difficulty with

measuring, hence cooking can be very difficult. All in all, I think as we

keep working on this, she will eventually compensate, or just plain out

memorize certain things. She baked a cake yesterday by herself at home, so I

believe I will have to do a taste test this evening after dinner. We'll see

how she did, LOL! I am sure there are probably many variations on this

disorder too, depends on the individual. hope this helps.

Hugs to you and kids,

Sue Ginley

[Guest guest]

thank you all for your replies concerning math comprehension. They were

indeed helpful. Here is a really good url using the term that Sue mentioned

in her post. I was really impressed with the information at that site. It

really explains a lot.

Thanks again.

aj

http://www.dyscalculia.org/thesis.html

http://www.dyscalculia.org

[Guest guest]

AJ,

I've followed the responses to the math difficulties with interest, as I too

have a difficult time with addition and subtraction. I've learned to use visual

aids -such as counting on my fingers or adding or subtracting actual objects.

Also my dad has difficulty in the same area. He too has EDS.

This has been an interesting topic. -Thanks-

From: laxity@...

thank you all for your replies concerning math comprehension.

aj

http://www.dyscalculia.org/thesis.html

http://www.dyscalculia.org

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/24/03 10:18:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,

laxity@... writes:

<< http://www.dyscalculia.org >>

Thanks AJ for sharing that! Is my Ginny to the tee! Take Care

Hugs,

Sue Ginley

[Guest guest]

Hi, All I know is that both myself and my son have difficulty with math and

both of us have EDS CLASSICAL

Lorraine

Re: off topic question; disorders in math comprehension

> Hi,

>

> I don't know if there is an official math disorder but what ever it is I

have

> it! I tried all through school and college to understand math and have

never

> been able to conquer it. Not even with extra help and tutoring. The other

> things I have problems with is music and foreign languages. Not sure what

it

> is caused by. I would love to hear if other people have this problem.

>

> Sue (Freezing in Maine)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i have problems with percents, multiplication, fractions, concept of time,

reading clock face, music is a lost cause, foreign language I mimic

pronunciation well but as the teacher said she had never seen so much work

get someone so little gain... Physics was a nightmare the science was simple

I just knew it, the math part to it and the math to chemistry was a

disaster.

I scored 98% on aptitude tests for science 10% on math.. The had me retest

they thought for sure it was impossible.

Nope, wsnt. Multiple choice tests I plug things in backwards and do better.

It just seems I'm wired different.

Ellen in Texas (heds)