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In a message dated 1/11/2003 3:29:30 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

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> ....i know this means i could hypo during the night but those who use

> lantus how soon deos it get absorbed and start influencing your sugar?

Cheeky,

According to the info I got when I started with Lantus three weeks ago,

Lantus begins working within the first hour and continues working for 24

hours. You should be okay if you eat something starchy before you go to bed,

I would think.

F.

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Cheeky, can you get glucose tabs where you are? It is more efficient to

dose a low with a set amount of glucose (tabs) than guessing, overeating,

spiking, going low, etc., etc. If you test the low, you know how much

glucose to take. I've overdosed my basal on rare occasions, and just tested

when I felt low and ate a tab or two, depending on the test. Got through it

with less lows than I thought I'd have, btw. The other thing if you can't

get glucose tabs would be life savers, or something with a set, small amount

of glucose, so you know how much you're raising your bg's. One glucose tab

is 4 carbs, which will raise bg about 20 points.

Sorry if this post is too late for you.

Barb

> i dosed my self twice ended up with twice the insulin in my

> body....i know this means i could hypo during the night but those who use

> lantus how soon deos it get absorbed and start influencing your sugar? i

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In a message dated 1/12/2003 6:50:19 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

up_away@... writes:

> i found the

> injection sight a bit painful too.

Cheeky,

Remember that with Lantus, there is no peak time. It is pretty much

stable throughout the 24 hour period, and also you are supposed to eat

something with protein in it when you take it. Painful injection sites are a

common side effect with the Lantus too. Here is a link to their site: <A

HREF= " http://www.lantus.com/information/home.html " >

24-hour Lantus basal insulin for the treatment of diabetes</A> or <A

HREF= " http://www.lantus.com/information/home.html " >

http://www.lantus.com/information/home.html</A> . Very informative site.

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thankyou lisa and tish

i am testing regularly and surprisingly they are all high so !! 200,

210,fasting and prelunch i'll keep testing and watch out. i found the

injection sight a bit painful too. normally i have no problem with needles.

i am supposed to take 12 and took it twice so 24 units thanks cheeky

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Thank you Barb

actually a private endo (supposed to be good but she's very expensive)is

bringing glucose tabs from your wallgreens and selling it to patients who

want them! it costs about $3.75 which is probably the price in usa. i bought

2 tubes just in case have already used it a few times. but my hypo prob is i

have no symtoms and will drift off in my sleep which i know is dangerous

last night i was particularly petrified bec. my husb was away for 5 days and

my kids sleep in their own room so if i didn't wake up nobody would know

until a bit too late. but anyway all seems to be well. I had higher

expectations of lantus now with reading of 200 fasting i guess the numbers

need to be adjusted all over again.

I am seeing 2 endo's simultaneously the private one and the lantus lady I

hope after so much intense diabtese time i come out of this positively

though the private endo said eating no starch was stupid....thank you very

much i told her i would lend her DR B's book then she can tell me what she

thinks. but all these supposedly Good drs are too busy to read non medical

data backed literature. but since i pay per visit i can argue my way through

sighhhhhh! cheeky

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> ...but anyway all seems to be well.

**Phew! Good :-)

> I had higher

> expectations of lantus now with reading of 200 fasting i guess the numbers

> need to be adjusted all over again.

**I remember when Lantus came out (not long ago) and a few folks on this

list reported that it didn't last for 24 hours for them - more like 18 or

so. I'm thinking Vicki was one, so maybe she'll chime in here. You may

benefit by testing frequently toward the end of the 24 hour period and see

if this is true for you. I never tried it because of those reports, just

stuck with my UL. And I prefer basal dosing twice per day, because actually

my a.m. and p.m. doses vary a little, depending on what's going on. After a

year or so of tweaking my fastings are consistently under 100 and I know a

nighttime one unit variance up or down will vary by fasting bg approximately

20 points.

> I am seeing 2 endo's simultaneously the private one and the lantus lady I

> hope after so much intense diabtese time i come out of this positively

> though the private endo said eating no starch was stupid....

**IMHO, Cheeky, if you're eating lots of low glycemic green vegetables until

you get your numbers where you want them, you should be fine.

If you want the bigger jars of glucose tabs, I'd be glad to mail you some.

They last alot longer than the tubes, and sometimes I'll take one before an

exercise period, if I'm under 100. Email me privately, if you're

interested, and you think we can work that out. Don't know about customs

and all where you are.

Not a doc -

Barb

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Cheeky, maybe this is a sign that you need to increase your Lantus. If you

read the pamphlet that comes with the package, as I recall, it says you can

increase one unit at a time if you're using less than 10, and 2 units at a

time if you're using more than 10 units. It also says to try each increase

for 3 days or so, testing frequently, before you increase it again. It said

pretty much the same thing in the books I read at the time about insulin,

when I was going through switching insulin kinds and tweaking my dosages,

which I pretty much did all by myself with lots of help from some of the

members of this list (few years ago now).

If you ever get some time, you might try the archives 2-3 years ago for this

list and do a search for my email address. I've always been pretty good

about changing the subject line, so it might be at least a little easier

than it sounds. There is alot of great info in there. Also, if you think

it would help, I probably have some of the posts saved in my personal

archives (and maybe not). Email me privately, if you like, and I'll see

what I've got.

Take care,

Barb

> i am testing regularly and surprisingly they are all high so !! 200,

> 210,fasting and prelunch i'll keep testing and watch out. i found the

> injection sight a bit painful too. normally i have no problem with

needles.

> i am supposed to take 12 and took it twice so 24 units thanks cheeky

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thank you barb you bet bigger container would be more convenient. my brother

will be in usa soon he has a medical confrence somewhere out there so i'll

get him to get me a container. i will also visit sometime in july/aug so now

have one more thing to bring back. i am using R with lantus as my hosp

supplies that free or i have to buy humolog for twice the price, the dr

prescribed just R for fast action. i have a bottle of H but now its a month

old i'll just chuck it away. aren't both R and H the same price in usa?

cheeky

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