Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 In a message dated 2/24/2003 11:50:57 AM Central Standard Time, ottercritter@... writes: > It's most likely the insulin. The effect should be temporary, lasting > no more than a few weeks. > I am listening with interest this discussion on gaining weight with insulin. When I was on it last year...I lost weight.....strange No comments from the peanut gallery....<grin> I know how strange I am......hehehe Ressy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 resmith315@... wrote: > In a message dated 2/24/2003 11:50:57 AM Central Standard Time, > ottercritter@... writes: > > > It's most likely the insulin. The effect should be temporary, lasting > > no more than a few weeks. > > > > I am listening with interest this discussion on gaining weight with insulin. > When I was on it last year...I lost weight.....strange > > No comments from the peanut gallery....<grin> I know how strange I > am......hehehe > > Ressy Sorry, but I don't buy " it's most likely the insulin " . I never gained weight on insulin, even after starting, in fact I've lost weight. Weight is gained by eating. In fact, on the subject of weight: yesterday the wife and I went to a chinese buffet, but we got there too early so we ordered from the menu. We were about 1/2 way through eating, and two " morbidly obese " women came in. They went up to the buffet and came back with two plates full each, and eating while waddling (because they were so fat they couldn't come close to walking a straight line). Before we finished our meal, they both went up for two more plates each which were again filled. Upon leaving, I noted their car which was parked next to mine with a handicapped sticker.. I know what the handicap is. This will probably upset some here, but that's what I saw and I'm sticking to my story as I feel it needs telling. -- Dave - 11:46:32 AM T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H A 4th generation Diabetic - Davors Daily Aphorism: Diets are for those who are thick and tired of it. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Dave, thanks for the story about the " handicapped " women who can't stop eating. It made me cringe wondering what people thought about me, a year ago eating cheeseburger, fries, etc., at a little over 200 lbs. Now I'm thinking, but for the grace of God and the advent of diabetes I'd still be going on that way. Now, 50 lbs. gone and 20 to go, I'm quite happy with 30 grams of carb/day. I need to see those people, and I do, in the grocery store, restaurants, my neighbor, etc., because I need the reminder. I guess if finally getting the Db dx'd was the wake-up call I needed it can't be all bad. I really *looked* in the mirror the other day and realized I know that woman, I remember her - then went to Nordstrom and bought clothes and jewelry and went broke, but I don't spend any money on ice cream anymore. Thinner is way more fun. CarolR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Aw, come on Dave, don't be a meanie. Vicki In a message dated 02/25/2003 2:49:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time, fencible@... writes: > I need support, not criticism. > > > > Just do it. Denial is a river in Egypt. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 I'm another heavy weight who found your story a little upsetting. On a list where weight is a problem, diet is discussed, and I am trying my best, walking two miles a day (I don't think I " waddle " but maybe to you I would.) Its hard to take it off, a daily struggle, and there are lots of us, lots of us on this list. Perhaps many are lurkers, but they are there. My mother used to often say " Judge not your brother until you have walked in his mocassins for two moons. " She claimed it was a native American saying, but it bears thinking about when you are busy judging other people and what they are doing. A little compassion please, Jo in Minnesota At 05:53 PM 2/25/03 -0000, you wrote: >Of course weight is gained by eating. I am 282 pounds and have never >denied it. I, too, have gone back to a buffet table like those two >fat gals, in fact, I probably waddled doing it. To be perfectly >honest, someone probably in private commented on it. I have never had >anyone insult me to my face, however. My obesity is not the only >thing about me. At least I don't criticize anyone else who waddles. >I do feel sorry for them because I have found it it a very easy trap >to get into. Get some compassion. Everyone I know loves and respects >me. And I am trying to get a handle on my diabetes. Trying real >hard. I also have lots of really supportive friends. Sure, your >story needs telling but mellow it a bit, OK? > >> Sorry, but I don't buy " it's most likely the insulin " . I never >gained weight on insulin, even after starting, in fact I've lost >weight. >> >> Weight is gained by eating. >> >> In fact, on the subject of weight: yesterday the wife and I went to >a chinese buffet, but we got there too early so we ordered from the >menu. >> >> We were about 1/2 way through eating, and two " morbidly obese " >>women came in. They went up to the buffet and came back with two >plates full each, and eating while waddling (because they were so fat >they couldn't come close to walking a straight line). >> >> Before we finished our meal, they both went up for two more plates >each which were again filled. Upon leaving, I noted their car which >was parked next to mine with a handicapped sticker.. I know what the >handicap is. >> >> This will probably upset some here, but that's what I saw and I'm >sticking to my story as I feel it needs telling. >> >> -- >> Dave - 11:46:32 AM >> T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H >> A 4th generation Diabetic >> - >> Davors Daily Aphorism: >> Diets are for those who are thick and tired of it. Jo in Minnesota http://pages.ivillage.com/josiem38/ Make a Project Linus block: http://www.geocities.com/pcpiecers/projectlinus.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 I've heard a variant: " Don't criticize anyone until you've walked a mile in his shoes; he'll be a mile away and barefoot. " Re: Re: Swelling Problem? My mother used to often say " Judge not your brother until you have walked in his mocassins for two moons. " She claimed it was a native American saying, but it bears thinking about when you are busy judging other people and what they are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Jo McKnight wrote: > I'm another heavy weight who found your story a little upsetting. On a > list where weight is a problem, diet is discussed, and I am trying my best, > walking two miles a day (I don't think I " waddle " but maybe to you I > would.) Its hard to take it off, a daily struggle, and there are lots of > us, lots of us on this list. Perhaps many are lurkers, but they are there. > > My mother used to often say " Judge not your brother until you have walked > in his mocassins for two moons. " > She claimed it was a native American saying, but it bears thinking about > when you are busy judging other people and what they are doing. > > A little compassion please, > > Jo in Minnesota I know you surely don't believe it, but I have a whole lot of compassion for those who truly work to overcome their situation, but there is absolutely no excuse for the way those women acted. They are eating themselves to death, and enjoying the ride. I guess I am also one of those who would not allow myself to get in a positon to have to wear those mocassins. > > > At 05:53 PM 2/25/03 -0000, you wrote: > >Of course weight is gained by eating. I am 282 pounds and have never > >denied it. I, too, have gone back to a buffet table like those two > >fat gals, in fact, I probably waddled doing it. To be perfectly > >honest, someone probably in private commented on it. I have never had > >anyone insult me to my face, however. My obesity is not the only > >thing about me. At least I don't criticize anyone else who waddles. > >I do feel sorry for them because I have found it it a very easy trap > >to get into. Get some compassion. Everyone I know loves and respects > >me. And I am trying to get a handle on my diabetes. Trying real > >hard. I also have lots of really supportive friends. Sure, your > >story needs telling but mellow it a bit, OK? > > > >> Sorry, but I don't buy " it's most likely the insulin " . I never > >gained weight on insulin, even after starting, in fact I've lost > >weight. > >> > >> Weight is gained by eating. > >> > >> In fact, on the subject of weight: yesterday the wife and I went to > >a chinese buffet, but we got there too early so we ordered from the > >menu. > >> > >> We were about 1/2 way through eating, and two " morbidly obese " > >>women came in. They went up to the buffet and came back with two > >plates full each, and eating while waddling (because they were so fat > >they couldn't come close to walking a straight line). > >> > >> Before we finished our meal, they both went up for two more plates > >each which were again filled. Upon leaving, I noted their car which > >was parked next to mine with a handicapped sticker.. I know what the > >handicap is. > >> > >> This will probably upset some here, but that's what I saw and I'm > >sticking to my story as I feel it needs telling. > >> > >> -- > >> Dave - 11:46:32 AM > >> T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H > >> A 4th generation Diabetic > >> - > >> Davors Daily Aphorism: > >> Diets are for those who are thick and tired of it. > -- Dave - 3:02:10 PM T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H A 4th generation Diabetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 " humbug_1933 " wrote: > Of course weight is gained by eating. I am 282 pounds and have never > denied it. I, too, have gone back to a buffet table like those two > fat gals, in fact, I probably waddled doing it. To be perfectly > honest, someone probably in private commented on it. I have never had > anyone insult me to my face, however. My obesity is not the only > thing about me. At least I don't criticize anyone else who waddles. > I do feel sorry for them because I have found it it a very easy trap > to get into. Get some compassion. Everyone I know loves and respects > me. And I am trying to get a handle on my diabetes. Trying real > hard. I also have lots of really supportive friends. Sure, your > story needs telling but mellow it a bit, OK? > > Kay J. I guess it was pretty stark, and right out there, but that's what I saw, and it affected both my wife and myself. I also don't think it has anything to do about the way people love and respect you, because if they do love you then they feel very bad that you are having a hard time. Of course there are very many who are happy to be where they are also. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/24/2003 11:50:57 AM Central Standard Time, > > > ottercritter@c... writes: > > > > > > > It's most likely the insulin. The effect should be temporary, > lasting > > > > no more than a few weeks. > > > > > > > > > > I am listening with interest this discussion on gaining weight > with insulin. > > > When I was on it last year...I lost weight.....strange > > > > > > No comments from the peanut gallery....<grin> I know how > strange I > > > am......hehehe > > > > > > Ressy > > > > > > Sorry, but I don't buy " it's most likely the insulin " . I never > gained weight on insulin, even after starting, in fact I've lost > weight. > > > > Weight is gained by eating. > > > > In fact, on the subject of weight: yesterday the wife and I went to > a chinese buffet, but we got there too early so we ordered from the > menu. > > > > We were about 1/2 way through eating, and two " morbidly obese " > > women came in. They went up to the buffet and came back with two > plates full each, and eating while waddling (because they were so fat > they couldn't come close to walking a straight line). > > > > Before we finished our meal, they both went up for two more plates > each which were again filled. Upon leaving, I noted their car which > was parked next to mine with a handicapped sticker.. I know what the > handicap is. > > > > This will probably upset some here, but that's what I saw and I'm > sticking to my story as I feel it needs telling. > > > > -- > > Dave - 11:46:32 AM > > T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H > > A 4th generation Diabetic > > - > > Davors Daily Aphorism: > > Diets are for those who are thick and tired of it. > > -- -- Dave - 3:02:10 PM T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H A 4th generation Diabetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Dave O. Wrote: <<Sorry, but I don't buy " it's most likely the insulin " . I never gained weight on insulin, even after starting, in fact I've lost weight. Weight is gained by eating.>> So you're saying that I gained 12 pounds in 6 days because I ate too much?!? I don't think so! In fact, I was eating less than usual trying to conserve money while out of town (more to play on - we went to Las Vegas, lol). I'm very glad that you've lost weight while on insulin - that's great! I have started losing a little weight now too, but it was just that first week - when I swelled up like a blow fish lol! D. Mommy to peanut allergic , 15 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 " humbug_1933 " wrote: > Well, I DO think it is about the whole person, not just your > appearance. You have a right to your opinion. > > How do you know those two ladies had not > been dieting very strongly and fell off the wagon that day. Don't > we all do that sometimes? You gotta be kidding me. They didn't fall off the wagon, they ate it, and everything in it. > Your comments came at a very bad time for > me, when I am trying to stick to under 100 gms. carbohydrate a day. > I need support, not criticism. Just do it. Denial is a river in Egypt. -- Dave - 4:32:10 PM T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H A 4th generation Diabetic - Davors Daily Aphorism: Ability is a good thing but stability is even better. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 In a recent interview I saw on TV Dr Atkins said he eats Cheeseburgers - without the bun! - So, now if I'm out that's what I do occassionaly - and get my Seniors coffee free! Carol wrote > It made me cringe wondering what people thought about me, a year > ago eating cheeseburger, fries, etc., at a little over 200 lbs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 I think that discriminating against the overweight is the only kind of discrimation that is still legal. What a shame! I am a person who has always eaten a normal amount of food, less than my skinny best friend and has always been overweight. I consider this to be a medical problem not a discipline problem. Yes, I can lose weight and keep it off, but I basically have to starve myself because my body doesn't work correctly. We now live in a society where social service takes people's children away from them because the children are overweight. Why isn't someone trying to solve the medical problem of obesity? My skinny friend also goes through the buffet line many times. Phyllis > >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: Re: Re: Swelling Problem? >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:43:36 -0600 > >I'm another heavy weight who found your story a little upsetting. On a >list where weight is a problem, diet is discussed, and I am trying my best, >walking two miles a day (I don't think I " waddle " but maybe to you I >would.) Its hard to take it off, a daily struggle, and there are lots of >us, lots of us on this list. Perhaps many are lurkers, but they are there. > >My mother used to often say " Judge not your brother until you have walked >in his mocassins for two moons. " >She claimed it was a native American saying, but it bears thinking about >when you are busy judging other people and what they are doing. > >A little compassion please, > >Jo in Minnesota > >At 05:53 PM 2/25/03 -0000, you wrote: > >Of course weight is gained by eating. I am 282 pounds and have never > >denied it. I, too, have gone back to a buffet table like those two > >fat gals, in fact, I probably waddled doing it. To be perfectly > >honest, someone probably in private commented on it. I have never had > >anyone insult me to my face, however. My obesity is not the only > >thing about me. At least I don't criticize anyone else who waddles. > >I do feel sorry for them because I have found it it a very easy trap > >to get into. Get some compassion. Everyone I know loves and respects > >me. And I am trying to get a handle on my diabetes. Trying real > >hard. I also have lots of really supportive friends. Sure, your > >story needs telling but mellow it a bit, OK? > > > >> Sorry, but I don't buy " it's most likely the insulin " . I never > >gained weight on insulin, even after starting, in fact I've lost > >weight. > >> > >> Weight is gained by eating. > >> > >> In fact, on the subject of weight: yesterday the wife and I went to > >a chinese buffet, but we got there too early so we ordered from the > >menu. > >> > >> We were about 1/2 way through eating, and two " morbidly obese " > >>women came in. They went up to the buffet and came back with two > >plates full each, and eating while waddling (because they were so fat > >they couldn't come close to walking a straight line). > >> > >> Before we finished our meal, they both went up for two more plates > >each which were again filled. Upon leaving, I noted their car which > >was parked next to mine with a handicapped sticker.. I know what the > >handicap is. > >> > >> This will probably upset some here, but that's what I saw and I'm > >sticking to my story as I feel it needs telling. > >> > >> -- > >> Dave - 11:46:32 AM > >> T2 - 5/98 Glucophage, Lantus & H > >> A 4th generation Diabetic > >> - > >> Davors Daily Aphorism: > >> Diets are for those who are thick and tired of it. > >Jo in Minnesota >http://pages.ivillage.com/josiem38/ > >Make a Project Linus block: >http://www.geocities.com/pcpiecers/projectlinus.html > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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