RE: Diabetes, Jewish food & Pesach

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

Matzoh is fat free and salt free, so it is not horrible, just watch your

other carbs. Anything PREPARED with matzoh or matzoh meal however will

have added fat and salt, like matzoh ball soup (I make the best they

say!), and farfel (YUMMMM, my favorite), and matzoh stuffing (I usually

just stuff the bird with farfel!) if you have turkey, etc...

Instead, a great appetizer is gefilte fish, high protien, low carb, low

sugar, low cholesterol. I could live off it.

Chopped liver is great if you don't have to worry about cholesterol.

Pure protien! But don't put it on matzah crackers or those Tam Tams! Did

you know Tam Tams, although they look like Matzoh crackers, have fat and

stuff that Matzoh crackers don't have?

And don't forget about charosis (spelling?), you know, the stuff you put

on the matzoh during the ceremony to resemble the mortor? Well that is

low carb too, walnuts and apples, (use a little Musslemans Lite

applesause to keep the sugar down) just watch how much wine you add, I

use only enough for flavor. If you taste the alchohol then you used too

much.

Actually serve a hard boiled egg to everyone, instead of slicing up an

egg or two for that ceremonial dipping in the salt water.

Actually eat the parsley sprig instead of just sucking the salt water

off it. ) Or better still serve celery sticks that have a little leaf

left on it and eat the stalk all the way up to the leaf!

By the time dinnertime comes, you will be semi-full and able to leave

those matzoh prepared dishes alone, hopefully. (Geez, I gotta at least

have a tablespoon of the farfel though!!)

I think we will make Turkey again this year since it is the healthiest

meat. You can lay some vegtables in the cavity to roast instead of

stuffing the bird. (And miss another opportunity for farfel?!) Carrots

and celery are great for that and get good flavors from the drippings.

Make mashed sweet potatoes instead of mashed white potatoes.

And during the week, just substitue bread for matzoh only on sandwiches,

but don't eat many sandwiches. I eat alot of gefilte fish for lunch any

way, and tuna salad, egg salad, although now I have to watch my

cholesterol so I guess egg salad is out. I am going to miss that.

Don't bother with the matzoh brei (whew gonna miss that too. Even made

with egg beaters, it's a lot of carbs) or any other dish with matzoh in

it. Unless you need to pack a sandwich, pretend the matzoh doesn't

exisit. (And I do love it plain with butter, darn).

Yes, it is going to be hard. But we can make it if we help each other.

I would love to hear some more ideas from other jewish diabetics.

Keep in touch.

Good luck!

Sharon Bolton wrote:

> Ok, we obviously have some nutritionally informed Jews here. Help! What

> in heck do we do during Pesach (Passover) now? I'm just thinking

> about the

> seder and wondering what I will be able to eat, other than the food

> items I

> personally bring to it. (For those not in-the-know, during Pesach

> observant Jews don't eat any food that is made from 5 basic grains, and

> some Jews even leave out rice and beans, anything that might possibly

> have

> been ground into flour and used as such in Europe. We substitute matzo

> meal instead -- white flour, of course.)

>

> Sharon

>

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[Guest guest]

Or, even better, mashed turnips.

BTW, if you are going to be serving the mashed potatoes (or whatever)

with meat, what do you use in place of the sour cream? (It is my

understanding that mixing milk and meat is a big no-no for observant

Jews.)

Re: Diabetes, Jewish food & Pesach

Make mashed sweet potatoes instead of mashed white potatoes.

[Guest guest]

Would nut flours (almond, chestnut, hazelnut, etc.) be considered

kosher-for-Passover?

Diabetes, Jewish food & Pesach

Ok, we obviously have some nutritionally informed Jews here. Help!

What

in heck do we do during Pesach (Passover) now? I'm just thinking about

the

seder and wondering what I will be able to eat, other than the food

items I

personally bring to it. (For those not in-the-know, during Pesach

observant Jews don't eat any food that is made from 5 basic grains, and

some Jews even leave out rice and beans, anything that might possibly

have

been ground into flour and used as such in Europe. We substitute matzo

meal instead -- white flour, of course.)

Sharon

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Hope you come back soon!

[Guest guest]

I, too have the same issues with foods during passover. Coming from an Orthodox

background (now I'm conservative), when I was a kid, we used to live off Matzoh,

and all the delicious dishes that can be prepared with it.

Now that I have my own family, we usually eat protien, veggies and fruit for

dinner. This passover will be no different, except I'm adding a couple of extra

things:

I'm making, chicken soup (without Matzoh balls), gefilte fish with awesome

horseradish, turkey, asparagus, another veggie perhaps califlower, mashed sweet

potatoes, and strawberries for desert. My hubby, son and guests can open a box

of parve (neither meat nor dairy) candy.

I mash my sweet potatoes and add some homemade apple butter, which consists of

apples and cinnamon for extra flavor without adding fat.

What I have found is that usually by dinnertime, it's late, and I don't eat late

at night, so my portion size is way down. I'm also serving, so I'm usually

bouncing around during the meal.

Recently, I've been struggling to keep my numbers down, and haven't been

successul. I've been stressed to the max, as I'm losing my job in 3 months, and

I have to find another. Hopefully something will give. I've been seeing my Dr.

regularly, and we just got a dog that I've been taking for walks.

Be well.

b

[Guest guest]

At 10:14 AM 3/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>Or, even better, mashed turnips.

>

>BTW, if you are going to be serving the mashed potatoes (or whatever)

>with meat, what do you use in place of the sour cream? (It is my

>understanding that mixing milk and meat is a big no-no for observant

>Jews.)

Jewish mashed potatos are aweful, LOL! I was raised on mashed potatos made

with whole milk and butter. Jews tend to use broth and (shudder) non-dairy

margarine. Yuck! I won't miss them, at least that's one positive. 8-)

Sharon

[Guest guest]

At 10:15 AM 3/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>Would nut flours (almond, chestnut, hazelnut, etc.) be considered

>kosher-for-Passover?

Depends on where your part of the tribe is from. The Sephardic Jews,

generally from the temperate mediterranian areas, are more liberal in what

can be eaten. The reason is that living in temperate areas, they had wider

options for foods. Ashkenazic Jews, from Eastern Europe, had a more

limited diet. As a result, they often had to do things like grind beans or

rice to make flour. So Jews with a European ancestry tend to be extremely

restricted during Passover and not eat anything which could conceiveably

have been made into flour by their poor ancestors. So one rabbi might say

" kosher " , another would say " not " .

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Do you peel the apples before you cut them up? If you leave the peel

in, that will increase the fiber and lower the net carbs.

Re: Diabetes, Jewish food & Pesach

Miles wrote:

Sharon,

And don't forget about charosis (spelling?), you know, the stuff you put

on the matzoh during the ceremony to resemble the mortor? Well that is

low carb too, walnuts and apples, (use a little Musslemans Lite

applesause to keep the sugar down) just watch how much wine you add, I

use only enough for flavor. If you taste the alchohol then you used too

much.

[Guest guest]

At 04:37 PM 3/22/2004 -0800, you wrote:

>This is a hard on...

Now what WERE you thinking? ROTFLOL!

Sharon

[Guest guest]

I second that! LOL

It is just jewish french toast.

We gotta stop talking about all these goodies, my mouth is watering.

Uh Oh time for a Sugar Free Jello. Again!

)

Sharon Bolton wrote:

> At 04:37 PM 3/22/2004 -0800, you wrote:

> >This is a hard on...

>

> Now what WERE you thinking? ROTFLOL!

>

> Sharon

>

>

[Guest guest]

For those who'll be eating matzah for passover:

My dietitian told me a standard matzah is about 30 grams of carbs, or

2 carb exchanges. So half a matzah is 1 carb exchange.

Not sure about shmura matzah though (the really large, round,

handmade matzas).

blithe