Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 I have shrinkage and black holes - which is why my neuro says I'm secondary progressive. However, I have fewer symptoms than many who are relapsing-remitting. Go figure! has anyone been told that they had shrinkage of the brain during the reading of their mri's? From: "creiaa" <CLANDAU@...> Reply-low dose naltrexone low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and new lesions Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 16:11:42 -0000 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Shrinkage? Shrinkage... I thought that only happened to guys? (Or was it just ?) Rae From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Leatha Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:54 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] RE: [lowdose brain shrinkage I have shrinkage and black holes - which is why my neuro says I'm secondary progressive. However, I have fewer symptoms than many who are relapsing-remitting. Go figure! has anyone been told that they had shrinkage of the brain during the reading of their mri's? From: "creiaa" <CLANDAU@...> Reply-low dose naltrexone low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and new lesions Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 16:11:42 -0000 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 I don't know if I have shrinkage, but last MRI, brain and cervical, I had many lesions in the brain but none in the spine. I haven't walked/stood in 7 years. Go figure??? That was 1 1/2 years ago. Prior to that, the last MRI was in 1999. That's why my Neuro was shocked...he actually thought there would be more lesions in the brain and at least one or more in the spine. So, maybe LDN is working??? Listen up!!! Everyone...don't let yourselves get any infection! The bladder infection that I had two weeks ago has really drained the energy out of me. Truly, I have thought that I was dying. I'm a bit beetter now. Marcie davizonaagain <davizonaagain@...> wrote: Am I the only nitwit that feels that the brain is so complex and unexplained that maybe some of the 'black holes', and 'changes in white matter or gray matter' 'lesions' etc are maybe normal? I've often wondered if they have ever done trials on the MRI process, kind of like they do trials on drugs. Have they ever MRI'd normal brains, would they know what a normal brain looked like in an MRI, or would they just assume that there is a problem with that person's brain, becuse they had an MRI? I just wonder how reliable an MRI really is.>> I have shrinkage and black holes - which is why my neuro says I'm > secondary progressive. However, I have fewer symptoms than many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Good Marcie! -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: [lowdose brain shrinkage I don't know if I have shrinkage, but last MRI, brain and cervical, I had many lesions in the brain but none in the spine. I haven't walked/stood in 7 years. Go figure??? That was 1 1/2 years ago. Prior to that, the last MRI was in 1999. That's why my Neuro was shocked...he actually thought there would be more lesions in the brain and at least one or more in the spine. So, maybe LDN is working??? Listen up!!! Everyone...don't let yourselves get any infection! The bladder infection that I had two weeks ago has really drained the energy out of me. Truly, I have thought that I was dying. I'm a bit beetter now. Marcie davizonaagain <davizonaagain@...> wrote: Am I the only nitwit that feels that the brain is so complex and unexplained that maybe some of the 'black holes', and 'changes in white matter or gray matter' 'lesions' etc are maybe normal? I've often wondered if they have ever done trials on the MRI process, kind of like they do trials on drugs. Have they ever MRI'd normal brains, would they know what a normal brain looked like in an MRI, or would they just assume that there is a problem with that person's brain, becuse they had an MRI? I just wonder how reliable an MRI really is.>> I have shrinkage and black holes - which is why my neuro says I'm > secondary progressive. However, I have fewer symptoms than many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 samething here neuro says theres no reason showing why he is not walking. SO NOW I HAVE TO MAKE BROTHER BELIEVE THAT HE CAN WALK AGAIN OR HE WILL GIVE UP ALL HOPE. MAYBE THATS WHY HIS LEGS ARE STARTING TO MOVE AND FEELINGS COMMING BACK ITS ALL IN HIS HEAD " NOT " BUT WOULD BE NICE TO THINK THAT. >From: Marcie <marcie_martin@...> >Reply-low dose naltrexone >low dose naltrexone >Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: [lowdose brain shrinkage >Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:29:59 -0700 (PDT) > >I don't know if I have shrinkage, but last MRI, brain and cervical, I had >many lesions in the brain but none in the spine. I haven't walked/stood in >7 years. Go figure??? That was 1 1/2 years ago. Prior to that, the last >MRI was in 1999. That's why my Neuro was shocked...he actually thought >there would be more lesions in the brain and at least one or more in the >spine. So, maybe LDN is working??? > > Listen up!!! Everyone...don't let yourselves get any infection! The >bladder infection that I had two weeks ago has really drained the energy >out of me. Truly, I have thought that I was dying. I'm a bit beetter now. > > Marcie > > >davizonaagain <davizonaagain@...> wrote: > Am I the only nitwit that feels that the brain is so complex and >unexplained that maybe some of the 'black holes', and 'changes in >white matter or gray matter' 'lesions' etc are maybe normal? I've >often wondered if they have ever done trials on the MRI process, kind >of like they do trials on drugs. Have they ever MRI'd normal brains, >would they know what a normal brain looked like in an MRI, or would >they just assume that there is a problem with that person's brain, >becuse they had an MRI? I just wonder how reliable an MRI really is. > >--- In low dose naltrexone , Leatha <leathaj@...> >wrote: > > > > I have shrinkage and black holes - which is why my neuro says I'm > > secondary progressive. However, I have fewer symptoms than many > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Dr. Bihari does not put a lot of weight on MRI's. nor do I. Not that it matters, I have no medical training but have been dealing with MS for over 23 years. No one knows our bodies and brains like ourselves. No drugs, just common sense and natural treatments and LDN for me Regards, Tom [low dose naltrexone] Re: [lowdose brain shrinkage Am I the only nitwit that feels that the brain is so complex and unexplained that maybe some of the 'black holes', and 'changes in white matter or gray matter' 'lesions' etc are maybe normal? I've often wondered if they have ever done trials on the MRI process, kind of like they do trials on drugs. Have they ever MRI'd normal brains, would they know what a normal brain looked like in an MRI, or would they just assume that there is a problem with that person's brain, becuse they had an MRI? I just wonder how reliable an MRI really is.>> I have shrinkage and black holes - which is why my neuro says I'm > secondary progressive. However, I have fewer symptoms than many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Take "D-Mannose" for the bladder infection. one teaspoon in 8oz. of water twice a day. The infection will be gone in a few days. Regards, Tom Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: [lowdose brain shrinkage I don't know if I have shrinkage, but last MRI, brain and cervical, I had many lesions in the brain but none in the spine. I haven't walked/stood in 7 years. Go figure??? That was 1 1/2 years ago. Prior to that, the last MRI was in 1999. That's why my Neuro was shocked...he actually thought there would be more lesions in the brain and at least one or more in the spine. So, maybe LDN is working??? Listen up!!! Everyone...don't let yourselves get any infection! The bladder infection that I had two weeks ago has really drained the energy out of me. Truly, I have thought that I was dying. I'm a bit beetter now. Marcie davizonaagain <davizonaagain@...> wrote: Am I the only nitwit that feels that the brain is so complex and unexplained that maybe some of the 'black holes', and 'changes in white matter or gray matter' 'lesions' etc are maybe normal? I've often wondered if they have ever done trials on the MRI process, kind of like they do trials on drugs. Have they ever MRI'd normal brains, would they know what a normal brain looked like in an MRI, or would they just assume that there is a problem with that person's brain, becuse they had an MRI? I just wonder how reliable an MRI really is.>> I have shrinkage and black holes - which is why my neuro says I'm > secondary progressive. However, I have fewer symptoms than many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Hi Dave, Makes sense Tom, have you ever tried the hydroxocobalamin? Is that the sublingual B-12 ? I'm having good results with it combined with folirinse. Not familiar with "Folirinse", what is that ? Regards hope all is well. Tom [low dose naltrexone] Re: [lowdose brain shrinkage Makes sense Tom, have you ever tried the hydroxocobalamin? I'm having good results with it combined with folirinse.>> Dr. Bihari does not put a lot of weight on MRI's. nor do I. Not that it matters, I have no medical training but have been dealing with MS for over 23 years. No one knows our bodies and brains like ourselves. No drugs, just common sense and natural treatments and LDN for me> Regards,> Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 I have shrinkage and black holes too. ~Amber I have shrinkage and black holes - which is why my neuro says I'm secondary progressive. However, I have fewer symptoms than many who are relapsing-remitting. Go figure! has anyone been told that they had shrinkage of the brain during the reading of their mri's? From: "creiaa" <CLANDAU@...> Reply-low dose naltrexone low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and new lesions Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 16:11:42 -0000 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Hi ban-em-dano, Got it, thank you. Regards, Tom [low dose naltrexone] Re: [lowdose brain shrinkage Hi Tom, I hope you even see this before I get banned again and all my messages disappear It's a treatment that many of us are trying. A VERY quick dissolving sublingual called Perque Activated B-12 Guard. To it we are adding a drop of a 10% folate solution called folirinse. It was designed as a treatment for autism, but the thought was that autism is closely related to MS. For me, it gives me a boost of energy, and less brain-fog. I take this 2-3 times per day. >> Hi Dave,> Makes sense Tom, have you ever tried the hydroxocobalamin? Is that the sublingual B-12 ? I'm having > good results with it combined with folirinse. Not familiar with "Folirinse", what is that ?> Regards hope all is well.> Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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