Re: Getting Medicaid and SS for my son

[Guest guest]

,

If your son should get accepted for SSI, the Medicaid comes

along with it. If you were real close to the income guidelines, and still

turned down, definitely appeal. Since they mentioned the car payment

issue to you, find out how much of a car payment you would have to make in

order to qualify. Get it in writing.

With that said, bear in mind that qualifying for SSI requires

your verifiable family income to be close to poverty level. Not easy to

get.

Regards,

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of Wihlborg

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:08 PM

To: sList

Subject: Getting Medicaid and SS for my son

Hey Everyone,

I have applied a ton of times for both Medicaid and SS

disability for my son. Medicaid says we make to much money even after I

show proff of what we pay out of pocket for our son. For Social Security,

they said that becuase we do not have a car payment we can not get

disability payments for him. Does anyone know how I can get these

services for my son?

[Guest guest]

You have to have no more than 2,000. worth of assets per month. They don't count your first car (as an asset), but all other vechicles are regarded as an asset. It is not true about car payments. They subtract your financial obligations (rent, food, insurance, etc. and subtract that from your total income/assets per month. Keep applying if you need it.

Subject: Getting Medicaid and SS for my sonTo: sList Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 3:07 PM

Hey Everyone,

I have applied a ton of times for both Medicaid and SS disability for my son. Medicaid says we make to much money even after I show proff of what we pay out of pocket for our son. For Social Security, they said that becuase we do not have a car payment we can not get disability payments for him. Does anyone know how I can get these services for my son?

[Guest guest]

,

I have pasted this income guidelines for SSI taken directly from the Social Security web site. The income guidelines for SSI eligibility depends on your family size and how many disabled children and other non disabled children live in the household. As a example, for two parents living in one home with one disabled child and no other children, the income limit as you see is $3495.00 per month. I have also pasted some information on ownership of vehicles as it pertains to SSI eligibility. One vehicle is excluded, regardless of value. If you own a second vehicle, then I believe Social Security counts the equity of the second vehicle if that equity is over $4,500.00. Of course this depends on what the current value of the second vehicle is worth.

Resources are also counted for the disabled child and parents which include all savings, investments, stocks and bonds and other accounts.

Retirement and pension accounts for the parents are excluded from resources. The resource limits are $2,000.00 for the disabled child and $3,000.00 for two parents .

I definitely recommend that you go on the Social Security web site and download their Social Security handbook. Once downloaded, you can go to Chapter 21 which is SSI and find all the information you need. You may very well qualify since there are countless SSI exclusions and exceptions to income and resources. Remember. even if you only qualify for one dollar of SSI benefits, you will automatically get Medicaid for your child.

DEEMING ELIGIBILITY CHART FOR CHILDREN FOR 2009

CAUTION:Before using this chart, see SSI FOR CHILDREN. If there is any doubt about whether a child is eligible, please contact us for help.

DeemingEligibilityfor Children

Gross monthly income BELOW the dollar amounts* shown means a disabled child may be eligible for SSI benefits.* Amounts given are general guidelines only.

Number ofineligiblechildren inhousehold

All income is earned

All income is unearned

One parent inhousehold

Two parents inhousehold

One parent inhousehold

Two parents inhousehold

0

$ 2,821

$ 3,495

$ 1,388

$ 1,725

1

$ 3,158

$ 3,832

$ 1,725

$ 2,062

2

$ 3,495

$ 4,169

$ 2,062

$ 2,399

3

$ 3,832

$ 4,506

$ 2,399

$ 2,736

4

$ 4,169

$ 4,843

$ 2,736

$ 3,073

5

$ 4,506

$ 5,180

$ 3,073

$ 3,410

6

$ 4,843

$ 5,517

$ 3,410

$ 3,747

The Deeming Eligibility Chart for Children does not apply when:

The parent(s) receives both earned income (e.g., wages or net earnings from self–employment) and unearned income (e.g., Social Security benefits, pensions, unemployment compensation, interest income, and State disability).

The parent(s) receives a public income maintenance payment such as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), or a needs–based pension from the Department of Veterans Affairs. See SSI AND ELIGIBILITY FOR OTHER GOVERNMENT AND STATE PROGRAMS for more information on TANF.

The parent pays court–ordered support payments.

The child has income of his or her own.

Any ineligible child has income of his or her own, marries, or leaves the home.

There is more than one disabled child applying for or receiving SSI benefits.

2157. Exclusion of an Automobile or Other Vehicle

Are automobiles or other vehicles excluded from resources?

One automobile or other vehicle belonging to you (or spouse, if any) is excluded from resources if you or a member of your household uses it for transportation. The value of the automobile or vehicle does not matter.

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[Guest guest]

,

They did not deny that my son was disabled. They said that they assumes that my husband's car (they said that my car doesn't count) is worth $5,000. Since we have a car that is worth $5,000 or more we can not recieve and Social Security.

To: sList@...Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:07:54 PMSubject: RE: Getting Medicaid and SS for my son

,

If your son should get accepted for SSI, the Medicaid comes along with it. If you were real close to the income guidelines, and still turned down, definitely appeal. Since they mentioned the car payment issue to you, find out how much of a car payment you would have to make in order to qualify. Get it in writing.

With that said, bear in mind that qualifying for SSI requires your verifiable family income to be close to poverty level. Not easy to get.

Regards,

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of WihlborgSent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:08 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Getting Medicaid and SS for my son

Hey Everyone,

I have applied a ton of times for both Medicaid and SS disability for my son. Medicaid says we make to much money even after I show proff of what we pay out of pocket for our son. For Social Security, they said that becuase we do not have a car payment we can not get disability payments for him. Does anyone know how I can get these services for my son?

[Guest guest]

,

It may help to also get a few written appraisals from auto dealers and or auto repair centers to show that your husband's car is not worth $5,000.00 as Social Security assumes it does. For example, if your husband's car has mechanical problems or requires body work, then this would lower the bluebook value of the car. If the vehicle is really worth only $4,000.00, then theoretically, you should qualify for SSI if that was the only reason for denial of benefits.

[Guest guest]

To "Gem 5860",

thanks for sharing valuable info. How much SSI are we talking about?

Liz

Subject: Re: Getting Medicaid and SS for my sonTo: sList Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 6:42 PM

Thank you for the information. I am going to look into it. I want to see the bluebook value for my husbands car. That was the only reason why we did not get Social Security.

From: "GEM5860AOL (DOT) COM" <GEM5860AOL (DOT) COM>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:08:00 AMSubject: Re: Getting Medicaid and SS for my son [1 Attachment]

,

I have pasted this income guidelines for SSI taken directly from the Social Security web site. The income guidelines for SSI eligibility depends on your family size and how many disabled children and other non disabled children live in the household. As a example, for two parents living in one home with one disabled child and no other children, the income limit as you see is $3495.00 per month. I have also pasted some information on ownership of vehicles as it pertains to SSI eligibility. One vehicle is excluded, regardless of value. If you own a second vehicle, then I believe Social Security counts the equity of the second vehicle if that equity is over $4,500.00. Of course this depends on what the current value of the second vehicle is worth.

Resources are also counted for the disabled child and parents which include all savings, investments, stocks and bonds and other accounts.

Retirement and pension accounts for the parents are excluded from resources. The resource limits are $2,000.00 for the disabled child and $3,000.00 for two parents .

I definitely recommend that you go on the Social Security web site and download their Social Security handbook. Once downloaded, you can go to Chapter 21 which is SSI and find all the information you need. You may very well qualify since there are countless SSI exclusions and exceptions to income and resources. Remember. even if you only qualify for one dollar of SSI benefits, you will automatically get Medicaid for your child.

DEEMING ELIGIBILITY CHART FOR CHILDREN FOR 2009

CAUTION:Before using this chart, see SSI FOR CHILDREN. If there is any doubt about whether a child is eligible, please contact us for help.

DeemingEligibilityfor Children

Gross monthly income BELOW the dollar amounts* shown means a disabled child may be eligible for SSI benefits.* Amounts given are general guidelines only.

Number ofineligiblechildren inhousehold

All income is earned

All income is unearned

One parent inhousehold

Two parents inhousehold

One parent inhousehold

Two parents inhousehold

0

$ 2,821

$ 3,495

$ 1,388

$ 1,725

1

$ 3,158

$ 3,832

$ 1,725

$ 2,062

2

$ 3,495

$ 4,169

$ 2,062

$ 2,399

3

$ 3,832

$ 4,506

$ 2,399

$ 2,736

4

$ 4,169

$ 4,843

$ 2,736

$ 3,073

5

$ 4,506

$ 5,180

$ 3,073

$ 3,410

6

$ 4,843

$ 5,517

$ 3,410

$ 3,747

The Deeming Eligibility Chart for Children does not apply when:

The parent(s) receives both earned income (e.g., wages or net earnings from self–employment) and unearned income (e.g., Social Security benefits, pensions, unemployment compensation, interest income, and State disability).

The parent(s) receives a public income maintenance payment such as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), or a needs–based pension from the Department of Veterans Affairs. See SSI AND ELIGIBILITY FOR OTHER GOVERNMENT AND STATE PROGRAMS for more information on TANF.

The parent pays court–ordered support payments.

The child has income of his or her own.

Any ineligible child has income of his or her own, marries, or leaves the home.

There is more than one disabled child applying for or receiving SSI benefits.

2157. Exclusion of an Automobile or Other Vehicle

Are automobiles or other vehicles excluded from resources?

One automobile or other vehicle belonging to you (or spouse, if any) is excluded from resources if you or a member of your household uses it for transportation. The value of the automobile or vehicle does not matter.

[Guest guest]

That is a good idea becuase my husband's car has boby damage to it. Thanks

To: sList Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:20:01 AMSubject: Re: Getting Medicaid and SS for my son

,

It may help to also get a few written appraisals from auto dealers and or auto repair centers to show that your husband's car is not worth $5,000.00 as Social Security assumes it does. For example, if your husband's car has mechanical problems or requires body work, then this would lower the bluebook value of the car. If the vehicle is really worth only $4,000.00, then theoretically, you should qualify for SSI if that was the only reason for denial of benefits.

[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

You don't need to be 18 to get social security. If you have a baby that is disabled, and you meet the poverty guidelines, your child will get SSI. You can be any age.

Subject: Re: Getting Medicaid and SS for my sonTo: sList Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 4:19 PM

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[Guest guest]

Liz,

The current cash SSI benefit amount for one disabled person as of January 2009 is $674.00 a month. However, this amount can be reduced depending upon your monthly income (earned and unearned). Generally, earned income is considered to be wages from a job.

So, your child may still qualify for SSI, but depending upon the parent or parents wages, the cash amount may be less than the full $674.00 monthly benefit amount.

Yes, your child does not have to be 18 to qualify for SSI benefits. But when your child turns 18 is the point in time where Social Security does not count the income and resources of the parents towards the disabled child. As long as the child does not have resources or income over the $2,000.00 limit, then they will be eligible. This is similar to qualifying the child for Medicaid under the Med waiver program.

Barry