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naomi, congrats on your beautiful baby. i'm so happy to see that you have such a

gorgeous child--i'm hoping to get pregnant soon but i want to make sure my

health is under control. ( i suffer with panic disorder as well--fun!). thanks

for the incentive!

all best,

melissa

Naomi <lisanaomi@...> wrote:

Dear Eve,I was recently pregnant (7 mos ago) and was on varying levels of

levoxyl during my pregnancy. Since mid pregnany I was up to .137 mg and that

was recently increased to .15 mg. I can't say I notice any difference, ok,

maybe I'm a bit less tired, but that's about it. I am still restless and can't

sleep at night once I've been abruptly woken. I would be anxious to hear what

you decide to use, as I intend to get pregnant again in the near future. I think

acupunture is a wonderful way to work on this. Do you take herbs (TCM) while

pregnant as well. I did not take herbs during my pregnancy. I can tell you it

took me 2 or so years of trying to get pregnant to get there, and the thing I

think helped so much was cranio-sacral therapy in Nov 2001, it helped to get me

back to regular cycles. I was pregnant by late Feb. to see a sweet picture of

me and my now 7 1/2 month old son, click on

http://photos./rkd1967swbell (DOT) net and click on mother's day.

Sincerely,Naomi

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> --- Eve..read my post about swimming..you don't have to give it up

> hon okay..really..add it into your bfl workouts and eat clean and it

> will really help you! it really really is a great workout but you

> must eat clean with it.

Oh I totally agree:) nor do I think that swimming 'makes you fat'. I think it

does

make you hungrier after the workout so its easier to binge on foods just so you

can feel full again but I've been extremly careful with what I eat especially on

those days. I have lost some bodyfat with swimming but I don't combine it with

any other cardio which is probably why I am not seeing the amount of bodyfat

loss I was expecting.

you can really push yourself hard with

> swimming. almost everyone I talk to agrees how wonderful it is for

> you to do! I am with you on it! you could really do an elliptical

> trainer for your 20 mins and do swimming later. or try this..do the

> HIIT with swimming! I would be curious to see how that works for you.

> just put your heart and soul into that swim and work really hard. I

> think it would work!

I do the HIIT with swimming which is probably what helps but the HIIT is often

dragged out across the hour because of our coach(ie, 1 lap slow, moderate,

fast, strong and repeat etc) which is probably why I have lost some body fat :)

I was talking to my sister who is a health nuts and she suggested what you did

which was to combine maybe 20 minutes of HIIT jogging/elliptical etc and

also do swimming.

Right now its more of a schedule thing for me so I'll see how I will work it all

out :)

Thanks for the info & support!

Eve

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> ---OH okay..thanks Eve. so that is a separate club than this one

> correct? it is just called body for life? I think I was a member of

> that before. thanks!

> Kathi

Its a seperate club that requires approval by a moderator when

subscribing. I read over the doc, it sounds different from what

Sunshine described but its all about cutting up for your 12th week

picture.

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On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 06:26:09PM -0000, Kathi wrote:

> --- So it would strip it from it's nutrients when it strips the fat?

> did I get that right?

> Kathi

>

Actually I'm not sure. CLA being a fatty acid, I don't know how much of

it actually is being stripped in skim milk. Because they try and keep

as many nutrients as possible in organic milk(things like CLA), I don't

even know that they make a " skim " version, it would seem counter productive.

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-eve

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On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 12:34:10AM -0000, sighsweetsigh wrote:

> hey neighbour!

>

> i just clicked on your profile and realize that we're in the same

> city. =)

>

> small world, eh?

>

> lia

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>

Ah cool! we should meet one of these days. Understanding is also

living in our area :)

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-eve

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I'm considering easing off the LBWO. I already have monster quads &

have taken up running so will be working them regularly anyway. Still

want to keep up the UB work because I still can't do a pull up :^P.

But if I dump the lower body building I might be able to lower my

calories without compromising upper body growth. Right now I'm around

1700 a day. I don't think I could go down to 1200 though. Well I

could, but I would be biting my children's heads off & it would

probably slow down my metabolism.

Eve

On Jun 25, 2005, at 3:01 PM, Lammail wrote:

> Eve wrote:  but not new to BFL.  I lost about 10% bf on my first

> challenge but

> only around 4 lbs.  That was around 3 months ago, and since then I've

> stagnated.  I'd like to lose about 10 more lbs (170 for a woman only

> 5'6 " is a lot) "

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> Eve I just finished challenge one and only lost two lbs.  I didn't

> track the body fat - but did lose quite a bit.  This time around I

> have already lost two lbs in only one week and it is do to staying as

> close as I can to the 40/40/20 factor.  www.fitday.com is great in

> helping you figure this ratio out and keep track of your calories.  I

> have been doing cardio only letting my shoulder and back heal/strength

> and will dive back in with challenge two in about a week.  I needed

> that scale to move, which made me focus on exactly what my intake

> was.  I am also trying to stay near 1200 calories. 

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> Eves post :I've recently taken up running and am adding that as extra

> cardio.

> Part of me thinks I should be adding calories, but the fact that I

> didn't lose much overall # during C1 makes me reluctant to.  I really

> don't need to gain more muscle.  If I just keep my eating the same as

> I had it for C1 am I likely to just lose the fat without gaining the

> muscle?

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Unless you are really lean already, dropping the LBWO is going to

short change your fat burning. The lower body muscles are the largest

in the body, so working them gets the inner furnace heated up and burns

fat and calories better than any other body parts. Your " monster quads "

probably haven't had all the fat burned off them and the muscle is

growing faster than the fat is burning. Unless you take steroids you

aren't going to get monster quads. Keep working the lower body. Look

elsewhere to make changes instead of that. There might be places to

correct the food where you will barey notice it and won't feel deprived.

Stasia

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I am actually pretty lean already. I don't look it because of the

saggy skin, but I'm in the mid-teens, and while my quads probably don't

qualify as monster they are mighty big.

I'm still trying to figure how much I should be eating. My lean weight

is around 145, but again because some of that is loose skin and empty

fat support system I don't know how much of that is metabolically

active.

When all is said and done I probably won't drop the LBWO. Even without

the physiological benefits, I just love to watch the macho dudes do a

double take when I throw 10 45 lb weights on the sled.

Eve

On Jun 26, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Stasia Bachrach wrote:

> Unless you are really lean already, dropping the LBWO is going to

> short change your fat burning. The lower body muscles are the largest

> in the body, so working them gets the inner furnace heated up and

> burns

> fat and calories better than any other body parts. Your " monster

> quads "

> probably haven't had all the fat burned off them and the muscle is

> growing faster than the fat is burning. Unless you take steroids you

> aren't going to get monster quads. Keep working the lower body. Look

> elsewhere to make changes instead of that. There might be places to

> correct the food where you will barey notice it and won't feel

> deprived.

>

> Stasia

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It sounds like you're doing pretty well. You might be the only person

who thinks you have large quads. Everyone else might think they are

svelte and muscular instead. We are usually our own worst critics

anyway. Keep up the good work and just keep on with what you're doing.

Stasia

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Eve, if you know your body-fat percentage you can calculate your

caloric needs. Use the calculator on the Hussman site, I have always

found it to be reasonable.

Alys.

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Thanks. I'd gone there a long time ago to get my numbers, but since my

body has changed, so have my needs.

Hmm, looks like I'd been eating at right about the top of my range for

fat loss. I should take it down a few hundred calories some days for

better results.

On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:52 AM, alysd38 wrote:

> Eve, if you know your body-fat percentage you can calculate your

> caloric needs. Use the calculator on the Hussman site, I have always

> found it to be reasonable.

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> Alys.

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Eve,

I'm sure you have,been teasted for Lyme Disease? Best of luck,

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 5:28 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Dr. Skip

Thanks Peg, I will talk to my Dr. about that. She seems stuck on the idea that the only test to do is a spinal tap and I'm just not willing to go there again. Have MRI's gotten better in ten years? Eve

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Dr. Skip

You make the point, those who are going to continue with this practice won't listen anyway. It would seem to me that this would therefore me a lose, lose situation.

Regarding the Mexico thing, yep I do know people who have gotten drugs from Mexico that did not meet US standards. So, now what. There will still be people that take the chance. The standards in Mexico are almost nonexistent. I would get drug from Canada before Mexico, as a matter of fact I would question ANYTHING not from the US or Canada or England. Then I would question the source, you could be getting placebo.

Every one's alternative is to call and find a doc in your area and get a script. I understand that some want to take control of their therapies, no problem but I would, the operative word is I, want an expert to oversee what I was doing. Secondly, I am a scientist and believe that with my 30 years plus training in the art and science of compounding I know more about this than most. I use a 4 place balance to weight all of the powders, I mix by geometric progression, I QC/QA every batch. I have gotten great results.

Finally, you can question my motives but that questioning absolutely doesn't impact the veracity of those motives. I know that some folks think that we have low prices because we want to corner the market, rather than the fact that we want to make it as cost efficient as possible for the most people. I have hoped that other compounders would lower their prices, but all we get is BS from them for cutting their profits. OhWell.

Now, really finally, I don't respond well to ad hominem directed to me or my family. I have learned that my response to them is always negative. I try very hard to be understanding and pure of heart, but sometimes the negative karma is so great that it just sucks the energy out of me. This is a bad thing. So, I believe in debate, I will register my biases appropriately, I will mention my opinions I do not respond to red herrings, or straw men or ad hominem or any other debate technique which will move the conversation away from science. probably why I don't participate on many boards.

Dr. Skip

ps Cyndi really is the nice one.:)

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Eve,

Where do you live. I still can't understand why she won't do an MRI or am I not understanding you. That seems to be standard procedure any more for diagnosis. I haven't even heard anyone using the spinal tap for diagnosis anymore since the MRI is much more accurate and certainly much less invasive! Does anyone have a comment?

Peg

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I asked my Dr. about that and she said the blood tests have a lot of false positives and that if it came back positive then I would need a spinal tap to confirm it and I refused the spinal tap for the ms diagnosis. Back to square one. I do live in prime lyme country and my granddaughter has had it. Eve

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Dr. Skip

You make the point, those who are going to continue with this practice won't listen anyway. It would seem to me that this would therefore me a lose, lose situation.

Regarding the Mexico thing, yep I do know people who have gotten drugs from Mexico that did not meet US standards. So, now what. There will still be people that take the chance. The standards in Mexico are almost nonexistent. I would get drug from Canada before Mexico, as a matter of fact I would question ANYTHING not from the US or Canada or England. Then I would question the source, you could be getting placebo.

Every one's alternative is to call and find a doc in your area and get a script. I understand that some want to take control of their therapies, no problem but I would, the operative word is I, want an expert to oversee what I was doing. Secondly, I am a scientist and believe that with my 30 years plus training in the art and science of compounding I know more about this than most. I use a 4 place balance to weight all of the powders, I mix by geometric progression, I QC/QA every batch. I have gotten great results.

Finally, you can question my motives but that questioning absolutely doesn't impact the veracity of those motives. I know that some folks think that we have low prices because we want to corner the market, rather than the fact that we want to make it as cost efficient as possible for the most people. I have hoped that other compounders would lower their prices, but all we get is BS from them for cutting their profits. OhWell.

Now, really finally, I don't respond well to ad hominem directed to me or my family. I have learned that my response to them is always negative. I try very hard to be understanding and pure of heart, but sometimes the negative karma is so great that it just sucks the energy out of me. This is a bad thing. So, I believe in debate, I will register my biases appropriately, I will mention my opinions I do not respond to red herrings, or straw men or ad hominem or any other debate technique which will move the conversation away from science. probably why I don't participate on many boards.

Dr. Skip

ps Cyndi really is the nice one.:)

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MRI's, spinals. etc. They're only as accurate as the person reading

them.

>

> Eve,

> Where do you live. I still can't understand why she won't do an

MRI or am I

> not understanding you. That seems to be standard procedure any

more for

> diagnosis. I haven't even heard anyone using the spinal tap for

diagnosis

> anymore since the MRI is much more accurate and certainly much less

> invasive! Does anyone have a comment?

> Peg

>

> -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Eve

>

> I asked my Dr. about that and she said the blood tests have a lot

of false

> positives and that if it came back positive then I would need a

spinal tap

> to confirm it and I refused the spinal tap for the ms diagnosis.

Back to

> square one. I do live in prime lyme country and my granddaughter

has had it

> Eve

>

> Re: [low dose naltrexone] Dr. Skip

>

>

> You make the point, those who are going to continue with this

practice won't

> listen anyway. It would seem to me that this would therefore me a

lose,

> lose situation.

> Regarding the Mexico thing, yep I do know people who have gotten

drugs from

> Mexico that did not meet US standards. So, now what. There will

still be

> people that take the chance. The standards in Mexico are almost

nonexistent.

> I would get drug from Canada before Mexico, as a matter of fact I

would

> question ANYTHING not from the US or Canada or England. Then I

would

> question the source, you could be getting placebo.

> Every one's alternative is to call and find a doc in your area and

get a

> script. I understand that some want to take control of their

therapies, no

> problem but I would, the operative word is I, want an expert to

oversee what

> I was doing. Secondly, I am a scientist and believe that with my

30 years

> plus training in the art and science of compounding I know more

about this

> than most. I use a 4 place balance to weight all of the powders, I

mix by

> geometric progression, I QC/QA every batch. I have gotten great

results.

> Finally, you can question my motives but that questioning

absolutely doesn't

> impact the veracity of those motives. I know that some folks

think that we

> have low prices because we want to corner the market, rather than

the fact

> that we want to make it as cost efficient as possible for the most

people.

> I have hoped that other compounders would lower their prices, but

all we get

> is BS from them for cutting their profits. OhWell.

> Now, really finally, I don't respond well to ad hominem directed

to me or my

> family. I have learned that my response to them is always

negative. I try

> very hard to be understanding and pure of heart, but sometimes the

negative

> karma is so great that it just sucks the energy out of me. This

is a bad

> thing. So, I believe in debate, I will register my biases

appropriately, I

> will mention my opinions I do not respond to red herrings, or

straw men or

> ad hominem or any other debate technique which will move the

conversation

> away from science. probably why I don't participate on many

boards.

> Dr. Skip

> ps Cyndi really is the nice one.:)

>

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Eve, There are about 50 MSers in my local NMSS group. All have had at least 2 MRIs and most have had Spinal Taps. Maybe it's the neurologists in my area (Philadelphia). My best friend was just diagnosed with MS last month. This was after 2 MRIs, a spinal tap and a complete physical. MRIs help to "Rule Out" MS too. Good Luck, Ed Peg Janssen <webster52@...> wrote: Eve, Where do you live. I still can't understand why she won't do an MRI or am I not understanding you. That seems to be standard procedure any more for diagnosis. I haven't even heard anyone using the spinal tap for diagnosis anymore since the MRI is much more accurate and certainly much less invasive! Does anyone have a comment? Peg -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Eve I asked my Dr. about that and she said the blood tests have a lot of false positives and that if it came back positive then I would need a spinal tap to confirm it and I refused the spinal tap for the ms diagnosis. Back to square one. I do live in prime lyme country and my granddaughter has had it. Eve Re: [low dose naltrexone] Dr. Skip You make the point, those who are going to continue with this practice won't listen anyway. It would seem to me that this would therefore me a lose, lose situation. Regarding the Mexico thing, yep I do know people who have gotten drugs from Mexico that did not meet US standards. So, now what. There will still be people that take the chance. The standards in Mexico are almost nonexistent. I would get drug from Canada before Mexico, as a matter of fact I would question ANYTHING not from the US or Canada or England. Then I would question the source, you could be getting placebo. Every one's alternative is to call and find a doc in your area and get a script. I understand that some want to take control of their therapies, no

problem but I would, the operative word is I, want an expert to oversee what I was doing. Secondly, I am a scientist and believe that with my 30 years plus training in the art and science of compounding I know more about this than most. I use a 4 place balance to weight all of the powders, I mix by geometric progression, I QC/QA every batch. I have gotten great results. Finally, you can question my motives but that questioning absolutely doesn't impact the veracity of those motives. I know that some folks think that we have low prices because we want to corner the market, rather than the fact that we want to make it as cost efficient as possible for the most people. I have hoped that other compounders would lower their prices, but all we get is BS from them for cutting their profits. OhWell. Now, really finally, I don't respond well to ad hominem directed to me or my family. I have learned that my response

to them is always negative. I try very hard to be understanding and pure of heart, but sometimes the negative karma is so great that it just sucks the energy out of me. This is a bad thing. So, I believe in debate, I will register my biases appropriately, I will mention my opinions I do not respond to red herrings, or straw men or ad hominem or any other debate technique which will move the conversation away from science. probably why I don't participate on many boards. Dr. Skip ps Cyndi really is the nice one.:)

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Thanks, Wesley, I have relatives in the Green Bay area, this may be an option for me. Eve

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Eve

I've posted this before, but I believe Peg and Eve are fairly new to the group (?). I live east of Green Bay. I drive my wife to the Neuroscience Center of Northeast Wisconsin in Neenah, 130 2nd Street. There are 5 docs there and all prescribe LDN for MS. If this might help you, e-mail me off group for more info.Peg Janssen wrote:> Eve,> I am in Wisconsin, too. I'm in Rhinelander. A friend at church > told me about his friend in Green Bay taking LDN. His doc did not > want to try it but upon his insistence he gave him the script, He > said it took about two months to see a change but he said he is now > able to work 10-11 hour shifts 5 days a week and his legs don't give > out until bedtime. He also has a friend that is on it and he is doing > very well. That is how I got on it and convinced my doc to give me > the script, by her reading his testimony. I think this is the way we > are all going to have to deal with docs that don't believe in it. I > can forward the letter to you if you want me to.> Peg> What town are you in?> >>>> > >> >> > >

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