Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Treva, No I do not take it with food. Are you possibly lactose intolerant? Peg -- [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take it with food at night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It sounds odd to me.Treva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 sounds odd to me too [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take it with food at night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It sounds odd to me.Treva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Was discussed on here not long ago - doesn't matter if with or without food. Dave Carlin wrote: > sounds odd to me too > > * [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? > > I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take it with food at > night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It sounds odd to me. > > Treva > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I'm going to check with skip later and let you guys know. Off the top of my head i don't know whats so odd about it. unless otherwised notified I would take all my medications with food because it can all break down together.cyndiOn Jul 8, 2006, at 10:50 PM, Dave Carlin wrote:sounds odd to me too [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food?I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take it with food at night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It sounds odd to me.Treva __._,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 > > I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take it with food at > night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It sounds odd to me. > > Treva > -- LDN can be taken with or without food. Artie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I can guarantee you that THAT pharmacist has no idea what LDN IS or what it DOES. It sound to me like THAT pharmacist is a little confused. For them to say to take LDN with food puts up a red flag for me, I would make absolutely sure that LDN is what they gave me, and not something else like the last guy who got bug spray or whatever it was. I've NEVER heard that LDN should be taken with food. LDN is taken at bedtime, how many people eat right before getting into bed? It seems to me that THAT would cause even more unrelated problems. You're right, some medications should be taken with food, but I dont think LDN is one of them. [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take it with food at night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It sounds odd to me.Treva __._, .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 > > I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take it with food at > night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It sounds odd to me. > > Treva ====== I do not take mine with food(never have) even though some do. I've been on LDN 3 years July 11. Make sure your pharmacist uses pure naltrexone powder, NOT crushing the 50mg naltrexone tablets. And be 100% positive your LDN filler is NOT calcium carbonate as it can cause LDN to release slow and LDN MUST release fast to work. Best fillers are...Lactose(if not allergic), dairy-free acidophilus(great for the gut), Gelatin, Avicel(cellulose)-If allergic symptoms can be headache, nausea, vomiting. Cornstarch can cause stomach upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 > > I can guarantee you that THAT pharmacist has no idea what LDN IS or what it DOES. It sound to me like THAT pharmacist is a little confused. For them to say to take LDN with food puts up a red flag for me, I would make absolutely sure that LDN is what they gave me, and not something else like the last guy who got bug spray or whatever it was. I've NEVER heard that LDN should be taken with food. LDN is taken at bedtime, how many people eat right before getting into bed? It seems to me that THAT would cause even more unrelated problems. You're right, some medications should be taken with food, but I dont think LDN is one of them. -- Dave, I've always thought that too and it's how I've taken my LDN for these last 16 months. I just now did a Google.com search and I find that Naltrexone, when taking in 50 mg doses for alcohol/opiate addiction, should be administered with food so perhaps that pharmacist wasn't totally wrong. Considering the dosage we take is so small it is probably safe to say with or without food is okay. Artie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 --- In low dose naltrexone , " Dave Carlin " <davizona@...> wrote: > > You're right Artie, he was probably giving 'textbook' advice for 50mg naltrexone! Just didnt look right, what you suggest makes sense. THX. > ----- Original Message ----- -- Well, you're right about eating before bedtime. I wouldn't recommend it. I try to keep my fluids/solids intake time before 8:30PM. Sometimes I'm successful, sometimes not. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Just like said it doesn't make any difference, with or without food. She's been on the board for several years. I've been on the board for a few years myself. This has been discussed several times in the past, and the answer is, it makes no difference. There ARE some people who work the night shift, and they still take it between the hours of 9 pm - 2 am. For them it may be mealtime when they take it. Just because someone hasn't heard of it, doesn't mean it's an absolute. Arlene --------- [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take it with food at night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It sounds odd to me.Treva __._, .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 lol, I'm sure there's no difference with or without food, but that wasnt the issue. The person was instructed by the pharmacist to take their LDN WITH food! That has nothing to do with night shifts, eating habits, or how long someone has been on this board. They asked a simple question, and made a warranted comment about what they were told to do by a 'so-called' professional. It was a great question, I just hope they can get a straight answer! [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take it with food at night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It sounds odd to me.Treva __._, .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Dr McCandless has parents apply transdermal LDN to sleeping children between 9 pm and 11 pm. But, that's transdermal rather than oral, which requires digestive action mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I'm ignoring the childishness of this because I said I would, but to clarify what really happened, and there is no ambiguity, Cyndi said " off the top of my head " ... *she* would take all of *her* medications with food. Cyndi isn't a pharmacist and has never claimed to be. She wasn't speaking for any pharmacist, including THAT pharmacist. She was only speaking for what she, a human, not a pharmacist, personally does. I included what Cyndi originally wrote here. It's 3 simple, clear sentences. Dave Carlin wrote: > lol, I'm sure there's no difference with or without food, but that > wasnt the issue. The person was instructed by the pharmacist to take > their LDN WITH food! That has nothing to do with night shifts, eating > habits, or how long someone has been on this board. They asked a > simple question, and made a warranted comment about what they were > told to do by a 'so-called' professional. It was a great question, I > just hope they can get a straight answer! > > [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? >> >> I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take >> it with food at >> night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It >> sounds odd to me. >> >> Treva >> >> >> __._, >> >>> . >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 But Wesley, you're still ignoring the REAL question, which was "Do you all take it with food" The reason this was asked was because a pharmacist specifically told the person to take their LDN at 9:00 pm WITH food. Artie already clarified the issue, I think we can assume what I suspected, that the pharmacist confused LDN with the drug Naltrexone for addiction. The latter is to be taken WITH food. LDN, unless I'm really missing something here, is not required to be taken with food. Why are you and trying to play the 'childish' trump card again Wesley? Cant we be adults here and treat this like a forum that is trying to help people, not like some stupid little tea party with everyone trying to take sides. I'm sure Cyndi would have eventually said that Skip thought the pharmacist was talking about Naltrexone, not LDN. [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food?>>>> I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take>> it with food at>> night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It>> sounds odd to me.>>>> Treva >>>>>> __._,>>>>> .>>>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I just don't think its that a big of a deal. you guys discussed it here. I personally tell everyone to take their meds with food unless otherwise indicated -even when I was working in hospital or doing home health. thats just me-not huge meals but some toast or some cheese. gives the drugs some company going down the drain there cyndiOn Jul 9, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Dave Carlin wrote:But Wesley, you're still ignoring the REAL question, which was "Do you all take it with food" The reason this was asked was because a pharmacist specifically told the person to take their LDN at 9:00 pm WITH food. Artie already clarified the issue, I think we can assume what I suspected, that the pharmacist confused LDN with the drug Naltrexone for addiction. The latter is to be taken WITH food. LDN, unless I'm really missing something here, is not required to be taken with food. Why are you andtrying to play the 'childish' trump card again Wesley? Cant we be adults here and treat this like a forum that is trying to help people, not like some stupid little tea party with everyone trying to take sides. I'm sure Cyndi would have eventually said that Skip thought the pharmacist was talking about Naltrexone, not LDN. Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food?>> > Just like said it doesn't make any difference, with or> without food. She's been on the board for several years. I've> been on the board for a few years myself. This has been discussed> several times in the past, and the answer is, it makes no difference.> > There ARE some people who work the night shift, and they still> take it between the hours of 9 pm - 2 am. For them it may be> mealtime when they take it.> > Just because someone hasn't heard of it, doesn't mean it's an> absolute.> Arlene> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I know it says to take your dose between 9PM and 2 AM, but why? It must be that you should be in "shut-down mode" and ready for sleep. If you are supposed to take it at that time and you work the night shift then your circadian rhythm is different and I would think it would not work the same. It must have something to do with a person sleeping so it can work during that time. Peg -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? Just like said it doesn't make any difference, with or without food. She's been on the board for several years. I've been on the board for a few years myself. This has been discussed several times in the past, and the answer is, it makes no difference. There ARE some people who work the night shift, and they still take it between the hours of 9 pm - 2 am. For them it may be mealtime when they take it. Just because someone hasn't heard of it, doesn't mean it's an absolute. Arlene --------- [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? I didn't mention thtt my pharmacy mentioned to take it with food at night around 9:00 pm. Do you all take with food? It sounds odd to me.Treva __._, .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 > > I know it says to take your dose between 9PM and 2 AM, but why? It must be > that you should be in " shut-down mode " and ready for sleep. If you are > supposed to take it at that time and you work the night shift then your > circadian rhythm is different and I would think it would not work the same. > It must have something to do with a person sleeping so it can work during > that time. > > Peg > -- I believe it is Larry who works the night shift and takes LDN. Maybe he'll chime in with his experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 As a former ICU Cardiac Nurse, my experience with meds is if the patient's stomach becomes upset with a certain med, they should take it with food. If not, they were given their pills and other meds before 8am then came breakfast. If they were NPO (nothing by mouth) after 12 midnight, no meds were given until the docs changed the orders. Take LDN with or without food. It makes no difference. It all gets sorted out in the small intestine any way. Some meds are absorbed directly in the stomach. Whatever floats your boat! Ed arlizotte@... wrote: The following info is from the www.low dose naltrexone.org website. Just for clarification. regards, Arlene What dosage and frequency should my physician prescribe? The usual adult dosage is 4.5mg taken once daily at night. Because of the rhythms of the body's production of master hormones, LDN is best taken between 9pm and 3am. Most patients take it at bedtime. The brief blockade of opioid receptors between 2 a.m. and 4 a.m. that is caused by taking LDN at bedtime each night is believed to produce a prolonged up-regulation of vital elements of the immune system by causing an increase in endorphin and enkephalin production. Normal volunteers who have taken LDN in this fashion have been found to have much higher levels of beta-endorphins circulating in their blood in the following days. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "nstubbs1@..." <nstubbs1@...> > It is supposed to be taken between 9 pm > and 12. It initiates a blockade of the > opiate receptors in the immune system > between 2 a.m. and 4 a.m. The blockade > of the receptors between 2 to 4 a.m. is > supposed to stimulate the body's own > production of endorphins, bring them > to a higher, more normal level over > time so they will up-regulate the > immune system. > N- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 > > > > > I know it says to take your dose between 9PM and 2 AM, but why? ===== Sleep has nothing to do with how LDN works. People who work the graveyard shift take their LDN at the same time as the rest of us. Endorphins are only excreted between 2-4 am per our circadian rhythm. LDN must be still in our system during the 2-4 am period to block our endorphin production. As a result of that blockade our endorphins tripple in numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 at the conference dr gluck was adamant about that you take it during the specified hours. apparently the body doesn't know if your not sleeping.cyndiOn Jul 9, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Peg Janssen wrote:I know it says to take your dose between 9PM and 2 AM, but why? It must be that you should be in "shut-down mode" and ready for sleep. If you are supposed to take it at that time and you work the night shift then your circadian rhythm is different and I would think it would not work the same. It must have something to do with a person sleeping so it can work during that time. Peg -. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Dr McCandless's transdermal LDN is naltrexone mixed into emu oil. A dose is extracted with a needleless syringe from the bottle and rubbed into the skin. No patch. I think she developed this transdermal with Coastal Pharmacy, check it out in the file of Autism_LDN. mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Re: LDN - take with food? Posted by: "nancy millar" millar505@... travlinggypsy Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:02 am (PST) never heard of transdermal LDN, how is it applied and is it like on a patch? sounds interesting do you think it works better?>From: foxhillersaol>Reply-low dose naltrexone >low dose naltrexone >Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN - take with food?>Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 20:41:04 EDT>>Dr McCandless has parents apply transdermal LDN to sleeping children >between>9 pm and 11 pm. But, that's transdermal rather than oral, which requires>digestive action> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 If you are on nights and sleep days wouldn't you work it in the reverse? Take a couple of hours before you go to sleep???????? Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? at the conference dr gluck was adamant about that you take it during the specified hours. apparently the body doesn't know if your not sleeping. cyndi On Jul 9, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Peg Janssen wrote: I know it says to take your dose between 9PM and 2 AM, but why? It must be that you should be in "shut-down mode" and ready for sleep. If you are supposed to take it at that time and you work the night shift then your circadian rhythm is different and I would think it would not work the same. It must have something to do with a person sleeping so it can work during that time. Peg -. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 And here we go with know-it-all Ed the nurse.Completely ignoring the context of the question, and being a big jerk as usual. > The following info is from the www.low dose naltrexone.org website. Just for clarification. > regards, Arlene > What dosage and frequency should my physician prescribe? The usual adult dosage is 4.5mg taken once daily at night. Because of the rhythms of the body's production of master hormones, LDN is best taken between 9pm and 3am. Most patients take it at bedtime. > The brief blockade of opioid receptors between 2 a.m. and 4 a.m. that is caused by taking LDN at bedtime each night is believed to produce a prolonged up-regulation of vital elements of the immune system by causing an increase in endorphin and enkephalin production. Normal volunteers who have taken LDN in this fashion have been found to have much higher levels of beta-endorphins circulating in their blood in the following days. > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: " nstubbs1@... " <nstubbs1@...> > > > It is supposed to be taken between 9 pm > > and 12. It initiates a blockade of the > > opiate receptors in the immune system > > between 2 a.m. and 4 a.m. The blockade > > of the receptors between 2 to 4 a.m. is > > supposed to stimulate the body's own > > production of endorphins, bring them > > to a higher, more normal level over > > time so they will up-regulate the > > immune system. > > N- > > > > > > > > > > BR>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 no Dr Gluck was adamant you take it between 9 & 1 no matter when you go to sleep -this was direct from dr biharicyndiOn Jul 10, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Arthur Freeman wrote:If you are on nights and sleep days wouldn't you work it in the reverse? Take a couple of hours before you go to sleep???????? Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food?at the conference dr gluck was adamant about that you take it during the specified hours. apparently the body doesn't know if your not sleeping.cyndiOn Jul 9, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Peg Janssen wrote:I know it says to take your dose between 9PM and 2 AM, but why? It must be that you should be in "shut-down mode" and ready for sleep. If you are supposed to take it at that time and you work the night shift then your circadian rhythm is different and I would think it would not work the same. It must have something to do with a person sleeping so it can work during that time. Peg -. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 i work nights, and i take it at 9pm every night.....i'm doing well.... Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN - take with food? at the conference dr gluck was adamant about that you take it during the specified hours. apparently the body doesn't know if your not sleeping. cyndi On Jul 9, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Peg Janssen wrote: I know it says to take your dose between 9PM and 2 AM, but why? It must be that you should be in "shut-down mode" and ready for sleep. If you are supposed to take it at that time and you work the night shift then your circadian rhythm is different and I would think it would not work the same. It must have something to do with a person sleeping so it can work during that time. Peg -. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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