Re: Is there anything to be done about the sleeplessness?

[Guest guest]

Oops, I am sorry I seem to have every other ailment categorized except for

sleep. I do remember that magnesium about a half an hour before you take

your LDN (and go to sleep) is helpful for some people in getting to sleep.

Many people have this problem and it works its way out after time. Perhaps

cutting the dosage will be helpful for now.

Aletha

[low dose naltrexone] Is there anything to be done about the

sleeplessness?

> As I mentioned earlier, I took my first dose of LDN last night and

> have not slept at all since I got up yesterday morning at 6 am.

> Earlier, I felt fine, just unable to settle down. Now, I am dead

> tired, but my panic/anxiety attack symptoms are on the rampage. Is

> there anything you can do or take to offset this mega hyperactivity? I

> have to get some sleep if I am going to work tomorrow -- and it is a

> new job for me, so I am going to work tomorrow.

>

> One problem could be that I have not been able to get a prescription

> and I am diluting 50 mg Naltrexone tablets ordered online from India.

> I think the reference to get them there came from this board, but I am

> not certain. At any rate, it is possible that I did something

> incorrectly and/or that the filler in these pills is not good for me.

> The package is marked " Naltima: 50 mg Natraxone Hydrochloride " .

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> Oops, I am sorry I seem to have every other ailment categorized

except for

> sleep. I do remember that magnesium about a half an hour before

you take

> your LDN (and go to sleep) is helpful for some people in getting to

sleep.

>

> Many people have this problem and it works its way out after time.

Perhaps

> cutting the dosage will be helpful for now.

> Aletha

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has suggested using Melatonin and tart cherry juice for sleep

problems.

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> That doesn't sound right. Why don't you call Skip's pharmacy. I only

know the 561-218-0111 number but there is an 800 number. Is it spelled

like that or was that a typo? Lime tree will calm you. It is a

homeopathic remedy or 5-HTP but lime tree in water will calm you right

away. Don't take that stuff again until you talk to someone who knows

about compounding LDN. Best, Kathy

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Skip's 800#...

800.553.7429

[Guest guest]

Like you said, you're panicking. If you dissolved one 50 mg pill in 50

mL of water and ingested 3 mL of that solution, you did it correctly.

The only potential mistakes in that are measuring the water inaccurately

or not allowing the pill to dissolve completely. If the information

posted here is accurate, that naltrexone is soluble 100 mg/mL, which I

have not yet been able to confirm in any scientific literature, then

dissolving it is a non-issue. I used to crush the pills, but Bruce G.

on this group suggested just putting whole pills in water and allowing

30 minutes, which works fine. The filler doesn't completely dissolve,

forming a slurry in the bottom of the bottle, but it doesn't matter.

The solution should be stored in an air tight container and

refrigerated. Air tight is important because otherwise the water will

evaporate, leaving a more concentrated, inaccurate solution.

I use a graduated cylinder from my days as a chemist. Are you using

some sort of accurate measuring device? Pharmacies generally stock such

things, I think.

The sleeplessness and restlessness is a well-known side effect of

naltrexone itself. It means it's working, boosting your own body's

endorphin production. For most, the effect subsides in a matter of days

and becomes a much welcomed (controlled) boost in energy. It sounds

like it would be wise for you to drop your dose for awhile. Many have

mentioned starting at 1.5 mg for up to a month then 3 mg, etc.

If you take only 1.5 mg a day, that equates to 33 days per pill. The

shelf life of the refrigerated solution isn't well known. Some have

said 2 weeks, but there's been no " study " of which I'm aware. You could

throw away your solution after 2 weeks and use only half a pill in 25 mL

of water for the next batch if you plan to continue at 1.5 mg for

another 2 weeks.

Melatonin is a great, natural sleep aid. My wife has become a terrible

insomniac in the last few months and melatonin is the only thing that

truly helps. Our bodies produce it and use it to regulate sleep. It's

usually sold in 3 mg tablets at department stores and pharmacies. I pay

$5.50 for 120 pills. I take one if I want to sleep better. takes

3 up to 5 at once.

alkanasooner wrote:

>As I mentioned earlier, I took my first dose of LDN last night and

>have not slept at all since I got up yesterday morning at 6 am.

>Earlier, I felt fine, just unable to settle down. Now, I am dead

>tired, but my panic/anxiety attack symptoms are on the rampage. Is

>there anything you can do or take to offset this mega hyperactivity? I

>have to get some sleep if I am going to work tomorrow -- and it is a

>new job for me, so I am going to work tomorrow.

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>One problem could be that I have not been able to get a prescription

>and I am diluting 50 mg Naltrexone tablets ordered online from India.

>I think the reference to get them there came from this board, but I am

>not certain. At any rate, it is possible that I did something

>incorrectly and/or that the filler in these pills is not good for me.

>The package is marked " Naltima: 50 mg Natraxone Hydrochloride " .

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[Guest guest]

That doesn't sound right. Why don't you call Skip's pharmacy. I only know the 561-218-0111 number but there is an 800 number. Is it spelled like that or was that a typo? Lime tree will calm you. It is a homeopathic remedy or 5-HTP but lime tree in water will calm you right away. Don't take that stuff again until you talk to someone who knows about compounding LDN. Best, Kathy

[low dose naltrexone] Is there anything to be done about the sleeplessness?

As I mentioned earlier, I took my first dose of LDN last night and have not slept at all since I got up yesterday morning at 6 am. Earlier, I felt fine, just unable to settle down. Now, I am dead tired, but my panic/anxiety attack symptoms are on the rampage. Is there anything you can do or take to offset this mega hyperactivity? I have to get some sleep if I am going to work tomorrow -- and it is a new job for me, so I am going to work tomorrow.One problem could be that I have not been able to get a prescription and I am diluting 50 mg Naltrexone tablets ordered online from India. I think the reference to get them there came from this board, but I am not certain. At any rate, it is possible that I did something incorrectly and/or that the filler in these pills is not good for me. The package is marked "Naltima: 50 mg Natraxone Hydrochloride".

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> As I mentioned earlier, I took my first dose of LDN last night and

> have not slept at all since I got up yesterday morning at 6 am.

> Earlier, I felt fine, just unable to settle down. Now, I am dead

> tired, but my panic/anxiety attack symptoms are on the rampage. Is

> there anything you can do or take to offset this mega

hyperactivity? I

> have to get some sleep if I am going to work tomorrow -- and it is

a

> new job for me, so I am going to work tomorrow.

>

> One problem could be that I have not been able to get a

prescription

> and I am diluting 50 mg Naltrexone tablets ordered online from

India.

> I think the reference to get them there came from this board, but

I am

> not certain. At any rate, it is possible that I did something

> incorrectly and/or that the filler in these pills is not good for

me.

> The package is marked " Naltima: 50 mg Natraxone Hydrochloride " .

>

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Cut your dose to 1.5mg or 1.75mg for 1 week then up it to 2.0mg for

one to two weeks then up to 2.5mg for a week or two and so forth.

If you're not on blood pressure meds get some melatonin at a

healthfood store, take either 3mg, 6mg, 9mg, 12mg, 15mg...whichever

dose fits you best(trial and error thing)and take the melatonin 30

minutes to an hour BEFORE you take your LDN and take your LDN at 9pm

every single night. Try to be consistent with the time you take

your LDN and this may help your body to adjust to the medication

better.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I will go out and get the Melatonin. The only natural sleep

aid I have right now is Valerian Root. I did not take it last night

as I did not what to do anything to mess up the action of the LDN.

I am so thankful for this board! Since I had what seems like a very

strong reaction. I think I will layoff for a few days, and then start

fresh with a lower dosage. If I don't sleep tonight, I'm going to

start seeing pink elephants on parade.

I will post my results when I go back to the 1.5 ml.

Thanks again.

Alkana

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> >As I mentioned earlier, I took my first dose of LDN last night and

> >have not slept at all since I got up yesterday morning at 6 am.

> >Earlier, I felt fine, just unable to settle down. Now, I am dead

> >tired, but my panic/anxiety attack symptoms are on the rampage. Is

> >there anything you can do or take to offset this mega

hyperactivity? I

> >have to get some sleep if I am going to work tomorrow -- and it is

a

> >new job for me, so I am going to work tomorrow.

> >

> >One problem could be that I have not been able to get a

prescription

> >and I am diluting 50 mg Naltrexone tablets ordered online from

India.

> >I think the reference to get them there came from this board, but

I am

> >not certain. At any rate, it is possible that I did something

> >incorrectly and/or that the filler in these pills is not good for

me.

> >The package is marked " Naltima: 50 mg Natraxone Hydrochloride " .

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[Guest guest]

Do not skip any LDN doses, you'll just prolong the insomnia...tonight just only

take 1.5mg at 9pm ad do that for 7 days.

[Guest guest]

,That is probably your problem. Can you get it prescribed by your doc? It is not a good idea to try to compound a drug unless you are a pharmacist. I would let the Pharmacist get the drug from where they feel is a safe place. It might be a good idea to wait until you get this settled or you may end up with more stress and anxiety, especially starting a new job.

Peg

-- [low dose naltrexone] Is there anything to be done about the sleeplessness?

As I mentioned earlier, I took my first dose of LDN last night and have not slept at all since I got up yesterday morning at 6 am. Earlier, I felt fine, just unable to settle down. Now, I am dead tired, but my panic/anxiety attack symptoms are on the rampage. Is there anything you can do or take to offset this mega hyperactivity? I have to get some sleep if I am going to work tomorrow -- and it is a new job for me, so I am going to work tomorrow.One problem could be that I have not been able to get a prescription and I am diluting 50 mg Naltrexone tablets ordered online from India. I think the reference to get them there came from this board, but I am not certain. At any rate, it is possible that I did something incorrectly and/or that the filler in these pills is not good for me. The package is marked "Naltima: 50 mg Natraxone Hydrochloride".

[Guest guest]

I'm sure I'm going to get much heat from some on this group, but that's

ok. This has been on my mind for some time. I completely agree with

Cyndi Lenz about being community minded about the propagation of the use

of LDN. Those are my words, not hers. In a cause such as this, I

personally don't think all press is good press. One bad story of an

" amateur " doing themself harm by " mixing their own drugs, oh my " would

definitely be a set back for the cause of getting the medical industry

to " allow " us to take LDN.

I was an ambassador for Rottweilers for the entire almost 13 years my

boy was alive. He was the sweetest dog I've ever known (ok, maybe a

close second to our Golden Retriever now). He literally never hurt a

fly his whole life (ok one fly when he was a puppy and thought it was

great fun to chase them until he caught one and spit it out). I made it

a point to take him in public to talk to people who initially cowered

and show them how friendly he was and how kids could pull his ears and

cheeks and he didn't even show his teeth. I do understand actively

taking steps to keep a positive image while trying to advance a

controversial cause.

I don't agree with the notion that dissolving a pill in water and

measuring liquid doses is bad, bad, bad for all individuals. has

already said she can't get a prescription. If those were readily

available, we wouldn't have a battle to fight, correct?

There are potential problems with people completing what is the

relatively simple task of mixing and administering liquid LDN. To be

blunt, not everyone has enough sense to do so. Others have cognitive

problems as a result of MS or other afflictions. Take your time and be

sure of what you are doing. Use measuring tools of an appropriate

size. Measuring 50 mL with a 500 mL container, for instance, is

inherently inaccurate.

I use a 25 mL glass graduated cylinder, filled to the 25 mL mark twice,

*at least* accurate to within 0.5 mL of 50 mL or 99%. I use a 5 mL

plastic syringe to administer doses with very fine marks etched into the

side at 3 mL for me and 4 mL for before the factory ink wore off.

This step I would say is accurate to within 0.1 mL of 4 mL or 97.5%,

minimum. That's an overall accuracy of 0.99 * 0.975 or ~ 96.5% or

better. In other words, is getting between 3.86 and 4.14 mg per

dose. I can absolutely live with this, especially since the " correct "

dose is only known to be in the range of 3 mg to 4.5 mg.

I agree it would be risky to openly advocate this method for everyone,

but I disagree with telling , who can't get a prescription, to not

take LDN unless she can get a prescription. How many on this group

alone have said they've tried for extended periods of time to get a

prescription and still can't? My opinion only, of course, . I've

posted before the nearly miraculous benefits has received from LDN

and I don't want to bore the group, but e-mail me off group , if you

want to hear an encouraging story. There are also hundreds of them

posted on the internet. Not taking LDN *could be* very bad for your health.

has been taking the liquid form for 9 months. She took compounded

powder capsules for 15 months before that. The last 9 months her health

has without a doubt been better than the previous 15 or any time in the

8 years I've known her. That is not to say it's because of the change

in LDN form, but certainly liquid LDN has done her no noticeable harm.

Peg Janssen wrote:

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> That is probably your problem. Can you get it prescribed by your

> doc? It is not a good idea to try to compound a drug unless you are a

> pharmacist. I would let the Pharmacist get the drug from where they

> feel is a safe place. It might be a good idea to wait until you get

> this settled or you may end up with more stress and anxiety,

> especially starting a new job.

> Peg

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> -- [low dose naltrexone] Is there anything to be done about the

> sleeplessness?

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>

> As I mentioned earlier, I took my first dose of LDN last night and

> have not slept at all since I got up yesterday morning at 6 am.

> Earlier, I felt fine, just unable to settle down. Now, I am dead

> tired, but my panic/anxiety attack symptoms are on the rampage. Is

> there anything you can do or take to offset this mega hyperactivity? I

> have to get some sleep if I am going to work tomorrow -- and it is a

> new job for me, so I am going to work tomorrow.

>

> One problem could be that I have not been able to get a prescription

> and I am diluting 50 mg Naltrexone tablets ordered online from India.

> I think the reference to get them there came from this board, but I am

> not certain. At any rate, it is possible that I did something

> incorrectly and/or that the filler in these pills is not good for me.

> The package is marked " Naltima: 50 mg Natraxone Hydrochloride " .

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> <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=96846>

[Guest guest]

Sleeplessness is definitely a side affect of LDN. When I 1st started, it was so bad until I quit. However, the next time I started I took some vacation time. Because...I knew what to expect. Also, I continue to take Xanax at bedtime.

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I agree 100%

[low dose naltrexone] Is there anything to be done about the > sleeplessness?> >> As I mentioned earlier, I took my first dose of LDN last night and> have not slept at all since I got up yesterday morning at 6 am.> Earlier, I felt fine, just unable to settle down. Now, I am dead> tired, but my panic/anxiety attack symptoms are on the rampage. Is> there anything you can do or take to offset this mega hyperactivity? I> have to get some sleep if I am going to work tomorrow -- and it is a> new job for me, so I am going to work tomorrow.>> One problem could be that I have not been able to get a prescription> and I am diluting 50 mg Naltrexone tablets ordered online from India.> I think the reference to get them there came from this board, but I am> not certain. At any rate, it is possible that I did something> incorrectly and/or that the filler in these pills is not good for me.> The package is marked "Naltima: 50 mg Natraxone Hydrochloride".>> >> > >> <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=96846>

[Guest guest]

Also there is very little filler in a naltrexone tab. I'm not saying

it couldnt affect you in a negative way, but we're talking somewhere

around 25-30mgs. I would hope the naltrexone tabs you got are the

same as the Revia, but I just cant say it is. I tried to get an

answer from Skip on another board, but I dont think he likes me.

(LOL, just kidding!)

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> > ,

> > That is probably your problem. Can you get it prescribed by

your

> > doc? It is not a good idea to try to compound a drug unless you

are a

> > pharmacist. I would let the Pharmacist get the drug from where

they

> > feel is a safe place. It might be a good idea to wait until you

get

> > this settled or you may end up with more stress and anxiety,

> > especially starting a new job.

> > Peg

> >

> > -- [low dose naltrexone] Is there anything to be done about

the

> > sleeplessness?

> >

> >

> > As I mentioned earlier, I took my first dose of LDN last night

and

> > have not slept at all since I got up yesterday morning at 6 am.

> > Earlier, I felt fine, just unable to settle down. Now, I am dead

> > tired, but my panic/anxiety attack symptoms are on the rampage.

Is

> > there anything you can do or take to offset this mega

hyperactivity? I

> > have to get some sleep if I am going to work tomorrow -- and it

is a

> > new job for me, so I am going to work tomorrow.

> >

> > One problem could be that I have not been able to get a

prescription

> > and I am diluting 50 mg Naltrexone tablets ordered online from

India.

> > I think the reference to get them there came from this board,

but I am

> > not certain. At any rate, it is possible that I did something

> > incorrectly and/or that the filler in these pills is not good

for me.

> > The package is marked " Naltima: 50 mg Natraxone Hydrochloride " .

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=96846>

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[Guest guest]

Melatonin 3.0mg at bedtime (the same time every night) is the best! Non habit forming natural sleep aid you can take. Usually runs about about $4.00-$9.00 dollars depending on how big a bottle of tabs you want. Takes two-three nights before you notice it start to work. Then after a while you don't need it anymore. You just start getting sleepy nauturally. Try it. Sincerely, Juice alkanasooner <alkanasooner@...> wrote: Thanks, I will go out and get the Melatonin. The only natural sleep aid I have right now is Valerian Root. I did not take it last night as I did not what to do anything to mess up the action of

the LDN.I am so thankful for this board! Since I had what seems like a very strong reaction. I think I will layoff for a few days, and then start fresh with a lower dosage. If I don't sleep tonight, I'm going to start seeing pink elephants on parade.I will post my results when I go back to the 1.5 ml.Thanks again. Alkana> > >As I mentioned earlier, I took my first dose of LDN last night and > >have not slept at all since I got up yesterday morning at 6 am. > >Earlier, I felt fine, just unable to settle down. Now, I am dead > >tired, but my panic/anxiety attack symptoms are on the rampage. Is > >there anything you can do or take to offset this mega hyperactivity? I > >have to get some sleep if I am going to work tomorrow -- and it is a > >new job for me, so I am going to work tomorrow.> >> >One problem could be that I have not been able to get a prescription > >and I am diluting 50 mg Naltrexone tablets ordered online from India. > >I think the reference to get

them there came from this board, but I am > >not certain. At any rate, it is possible that I did something > >incorrectly and/or that the filler in these pills is not good for me. > >The package is marked "Naltima: 50 mg Natraxone Hydrochloride".> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >

[Guest guest]

some other things that will help with sleep: melatonin makes me sick even valerian root is too much5-htp is awesome and also rescue remedy (bach flowers) is great when your really anxious and you can't turn your brain off. sleepytime tea really does work-in fact i'm gonna make myself a cup right now'cyndiOn Jul 3, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Juice wrote:Melatonin 3.0mg at bedtime (the same time every night) is the best!  Non habit forming natural sleep aid you can take.  Usually runs about about $4.00-$9.00 dollars depending on how big a bottle of tabs you want.    Takes two-three nights before you notice it start to work.  Then after a while you don't need it anymore.  You just start getting sleepy nauturally.  Try it. Sincerely,Juicealkanasooner <alkanasooner@...> wrote:Thanks, I will go out and get the Melatonin. The only natural sleep aid I have right now is Valerian Root. I did not take it last night as I did not what to do anything to mess up the action of the LDN.I am so thankful for this board! Since I had what seems like a very strong reaction. I think I will layoff for a few days, and then start fresh with a lower dosage. If I don't sleep tonight, I'm going to start seeing pink elephants on parade.I will post my results when I go back to the 1.5 ml.Thanks again. Alkana