Re: Dr. Skip & this group

[Guest guest]

I think, then, that perhaps we need this group to be moderated.

[low dose naltrexone] Dr. Skip & this group

I can not believe what just happened the last few days. I can not believe that we lost Skip in this group because of one person! We might also loose Cyndi. We all know more about MS and LDN than most people do. But when it comes to being an expert hardly any of us can claim that. There are maybe a handful LDN experts out there. Dr. Bihari, Dr. Gluck, Dr. Lawrence and Dr. Skip. So when we get one of those experts willing to be part of this group what happens? One, ONE person has to be a jerk and that's the end of it. I understand Skip, he doesn't want to put up with this crap, who can blame him? I just wish we lost someone else and keep Skip!I have met Skip last year when I needed help with some LDN side-effects, and I called him a few times since then whenever I had a question or concern and he always answered my questions and put me at ease. He is a super nice guy! And I was at this years conference and I saw all those "men in suits" and I met all those LDN doctors and Anne and her brother Dr. Boyle and I feel so fortunate to have been there and seen these guys so excited about LDN and what it can do for so many. So the Skip's had this fantastic idea of putting this whole conference on video and to post it on the LDN web-site so that everybody can see what they weren't able to in April. Now they took this idea even further and are putting it on a DVD so that all the doctors who don't have time to go to a web-site can see why we are so excited about LDN. The Skip's spend their own money and time to do this for US! And what do they get? I can not believe how someone can be so full of himself to question Skip's integrity. He was the one who investigated the fillers to make sure we all know which filler works and which doesn't. If he was in it for the money he would charge as much as the other pharmacies for LDN. Irmat might be a great LDN provider but did you know that they also sell all the CRABs as well! They are in it for the money! Skip's Pharmacy does not sell ABCRs because Skip does not believe in them. He knows LDN beats all that pharmaceutical MS CRAP! He could make so much more money selling a $1.000 a month medication versus a $18.50 a month LDN! But he won't! And he gets accused of being in it for the money! I just hope Skip and Cyndi know that most of us capsule takers or liquid makers appreciate what they are doing for us and for the LDN cause!Gabi

[Guest guest]

Come on now, do you really believe you 'lost' skip because of me?

Skip's not going anywhere, Cyndi's not going anywhere. According to

Cyndi, Skip never posted here anyway. Nobody has lost anything. Have

no fear, all is not lost. The world will not end today. You can

still get help from Skip, you can still get help from Cyndi, you can

still get help from Dr. Gluck, you can still get help from Dr.

Lawrence, you can still get help from Dr Bihari (for $500,

whew!!!!). Cyndi's frantic post worked, she probably stirred up more

emotion than anything I wrote.

I'm not a jerk, I probably do more for MS'ers than most of you

here. Somebody mentioned a vendetta against Skip, no vendetta, just

dislike. Cant somebody NOT like somebody else without everyone

getting so emotional? Cyndi and her son are doing something

commendable, it wont help me, but it MAY help many others. Do you

REALLY think anything has changed?

>

> I can not believe what just happened the last few days. I can not

> believe that we lost Skip in this group because of one person! We

> might also loose Cyndi. We all know more about MS and LDN than

most

> people do. But when it comes to being an expert hardly any of us

can

> claim that. There are maybe a handful LDN experts out there. Dr.

> Bihari, Dr. Gluck, Dr. Lawrence and Dr. Skip. So when we get one

of

> those experts willing to be part of this group what happens? One,

> ONE person has to be a jerk and that's the end of it. I understand

> Skip, he doesn't want to put up with this crap, who can blame him?

I

> just wish we lost someone else and keep Skip!

> I have met Skip last year when I needed help with some LDN side-

> effects, and I called him a few times since then whenever I had a

> question or concern and he always answered my questions and put me

> at ease. He is a super nice guy! And I was at this years

conference

> and I saw all those " men in suits " and I met all those LDN doctors

> and Anne and her brother Dr. Boyle and I feel so fortunate to

> have been there and seen these guys so excited about LDN and what

it

> can do for so many. So the Skip's had this fantastic idea of

putting

> this whole conference on video and to post it on the LDN web-site

so

> that everybody can see what they weren't able to in April. Now

they

> took this idea even further and are putting it on a DVD so that

all

> the doctors who don't have time to go to a web-site can see why we

> are so excited about LDN. The Skip's spend their own money and

time

> to do this for US! And what do they get? I can not believe how

> someone can be so full of himself to question Skip's integrity. He

> was the one who investigated the fillers to make sure we all know

> which filler works and which doesn't. If he was in it for the

money

> he would charge as much as the other pharmacies for LDN. Irmat

might

> be a great LDN provider but did you know that they also sell all

the

> CRABs as well! They are in it for the money! Skip's Pharmacy does

> not sell ABCRs because Skip does not believe in them. He knows LDN

> beats all that pharmaceutical MS CRAP! He could make so much more

> money selling a $1.000 a month medication versus a $18.50 a month

> LDN! But he won't! And he gets accused of being in it for the

money!

> I just hope Skip and Cyndi know that most of us capsule takers or

> liquid makers appreciate what they are doing for us and for the

LDN

> cause!

>

> Gabi

>

[Guest guest]

You really need someone to do that for you? Why not just 'NOT READ IT?!?!'

[low dose naltrexone] Dr. Skip & this group

I can not believe what just happened the last few days. I can not believe that we lost Skip in this group because of one person! We might also loose Cyndi. We all know more about MS and LDN than most people do. But when it comes to being an expert hardly any of us can claim that. There are maybe a handful LDN experts out there. Dr. Bihari, Dr. Gluck, Dr. Lawrence and Dr. Skip. So when we get one of those experts willing to be part of this group what happens? One, ONE person has to be a jerk and that's the end of it. I understand Skip, he doesn't want to put up with this crap, who can blame him? I just wish we lost someone else and keep Skip!I have met Skip last year when I needed help with some LDN side-effects, and I called him a few times since then whenever I had a question or concern and he always answered my questions and put me at ease. He is a super nice guy! And I was at this years conference and I saw all those "men in suits" and I met all those LDN doctors and Anne and her brother Dr. Boyle and I feel so fortunate to have been there and seen these guys so excited about LDN and what it can do for so many. So the Skip's had this fantastic idea of putting this whole conference on video and to post it on the LDN web-site so that everybody can see what they weren't able to in April. Now they took this idea even further and are putting it on a DVD so that all the doctors who don't have time to go to a web-site can see why we are so excited about LDN. The Skip's spend their own money and time to do this for US! And what do they get? I can not believe how someone can be so full of himself to question Skip's integrity. He was the one who investigated the fillers to make sure we all know which filler works and which doesn't. If he was in it for the money he would charge as much as the other pharmacies for LDN. Irmat might be a great LDN provider but did you know that they also sell all the CRABs as well! They are in it for the money! Skip's Pharmacy does not sell ABCRs because Skip does not believe in them. He knows LDN beats all that pharmaceutical MS CRAP! He could make so much more money selling a $1.000 a month medication versus a $18.50 a month LDN! But he won't! And he gets accused of being in it for the money! I just hope Skip and Cyndi know that most of us capsule takers or liquid makers appreciate what they are doing for us and for the LDN cause!Gabi

[Guest guest]

Wesley, Well spoken. If you ignore unwanted and unwelcomed behavior, it should GO AWAY. Thanks Wesley, Ed Wesley <inspirfe@...> wrote: Dave, thanks for clarifying. You aren't a jerk. Great. I was thinking more like spoiled child intentionally trying to

provoke us to get attention. Low and behold, now you're pointing your finger at Cyndi. She's the one who stirred up emotion, it can't be you. You claim you do more for MS'ers than most of us here. An interesting, but completely unfounded claim. It may or may not be true in your personal life. It certainly is not true on this group. You say you don't like Skip. You are, of course, entitled to that opinion. Are you entitled to play the role of a pre-teen boy and attempt to dominate the attention of 2500+ people, most of whom disagree with you strongly? NO. You say that Cyndi's video won't help you. To me that sounds very closed minded. You haven't seen the video but you already know it won't help you. To me, this demonstrates your inability to think in a community-minded fashion. If the video is of at least decent quality and is distributed for the low price mentioned and used by others to spread the word within the

medical community, and if you take low dose naltrexone now or in the future, it WILL help you indirectly. That fact isn't changed by your apparent inability to comprehend it.Do I think anything has REALLY changed? The one thing that's different is we now have an especially vocal, attention hungry, rude, childish individual among us. Thank you, Dave, for demonstrating so clearly to the rest of us how not to behave. And do not e-mail me directly. You are a waste of my time. I do not like you and I, too, am entitled to my opinion. One difference between you and I, though, is this is the only time I will be expressing it.davizona2000 wrote:> Come on now, do you really believe you 'lost' skip because of me? >Skip's not going anywhere, Cyndi's not going anywhere. According to >Cyndi, Skip never posted here anyway. Nobody has lost anything. Have >no fear, all is not lost. The world will not end

today. You can >still get help from Skip, you can still get help from Cyndi, you can >still get help from Dr. Gluck, you can still get help from Dr. >Lawrence, you can still get help from Dr Bihari (for $500, >whew!!!!). Cyndi's frantic post worked, she probably stirred up more >emotion than anything I wrote.> I'm not a jerk, I probably do more for MS'ers than most of you >here. Somebody mentioned a vendetta against Skip, no vendetta, just >dislike. Cant somebody NOT like somebody else without everyone >getting so emotional? Cyndi and her son are doing something >commendable, it wont help me, but it MAY help many others. Do you >REALLY think anything has changed?>>>>> >>>I can not

believe what just happened the last few days. I can not >>believe that we lost Skip in this group because of one person! We >>might also loose Cyndi. We all know more about MS and LDN than >> >>>most > >>>people do. But when it comes to being an expert hardly any of us >> >>>can > >>>claim that. There are maybe a handful LDN experts out there. Dr. >>Bihari, Dr. Gluck, Dr. Lawrence and Dr. Skip. So when we get one >> >>>of > >>>those experts willing to be part of this group what happens? One, >>ONE person has to be a jerk and that's the end of it. I understand >>Skip, he doesn't want to put up with this crap, who can blame him? >> >>>I > >>>just wish we lost someone else and keep Skip!>>I have met Skip last year

when I needed help with some LDN side->>effects, and I called him a few times since then whenever I had a >>question or concern and he always answered my questions and put me >>at ease. He is a super nice guy! And I was at this years >> >>>conference > >>>and I saw all those "men in suits" and I met all those LDN doctors >>and Anne and her brother Dr. Boyle and I feel so fortunate to >>have been there and seen these guys so excited about LDN and what >> >>>it > >>>can do for so many. So the Skip's had this fantastic idea of >> >>>putting > >>>this whole conference on video and to post it on the LDN web-site >> >>>so > >>>that everybody can see what they weren't able to in April. Now >>

>>>they > >>>took this idea even further and are putting it on a DVD so that >> >>>all > >>>the doctors who don't have time to go to a web-site can see why we >>are so excited about LDN. The Skip's spend their own money and >> >>>time > >>>to do this for US! And what do they get? I can not believe how >>someone can be so full of himself to question Skip's integrity. He >>was the one who investigated the fillers to make sure we all know >>which filler works and which doesn't. If he was in it for the >> >>>money > >>>he would charge as much as the other pharmacies for LDN. Irmat >> >>>might > >>>be a great LDN provider but did you know that they also sell all >> >>>the

> >>>CRABs as well! They are in it for the money! Skip's Pharmacy does >>not sell ABCRs because Skip does not believe in them. He knows LDN >>beats all that pharmaceutical MS CRAP! He could make so much more >>money selling a $1.000 a month medication versus a $18.50 a month >>LDN! But he won't! And he gets accused of being in it for the >> >>>money! > >>>I just hope Skip and Cyndi know that most of us capsule takers or >>liquid makers appreciate what they are doing for us and for the >> >>>LDN > >>>cause!>>>>Gabi>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >

[Guest guest]

Gabi,

I really don't think we are going to lose Skip or Cyndi. They care too much for us MS'ers (I never used that term) and they are not going to be beat by such trashy comments. They are too smart for that. I think if we just ignore it we might be able to make it go away,

Peg

-- [low dose naltrexone] Dr. Skip & this group

I can not believe what just happened the last few days. I can not believe that we lost Skip in this group because of one person! We might also loose Cyndi. We all know more about MS and LDN than most people do. But when it comes to being an expert hardly any of us can claim that. There are maybe a handful LDN experts out there. Dr. Bihari, Dr. Gluck, Dr. Lawrence and Dr. Skip. So when we get one of those experts willing to be part of this group what happens? One, ONE person has to be a jerk and that's the end of it. I understand Skip, he doesn't want to put up with this crap, who can blame him? I just wish we lost someone else and keep Skip!I have met Skip last year when I needed help with some LDN side-effects, and I called him a few times since then whenever I had a question or concern and he always answered my questions and put me at ease. He is a super nice guy! And I was at this years conference and I saw all those "men in suits" and I met all those LDN doctors and Anne and her brother Dr. Boyle and I feel so fortunate to have been there and seen these guys so excited about LDN and what it can do for so many. So the Skip's had this fantastic idea of putting this whole conference on video and to post it on the LDN web-site so that everybody can see what they weren't able to in April. Now they took this idea even further and are putting it on a DVD so that all the doctors who don't have time to go to a web-site can see why we are so excited about LDN. The Skip's spend their own money and time to do this for US! And what do they get? I can not believe how someone can be so full of himself to question Skip's integrity. He was the one who investigated the fillers to make sure we all know which filler works and which doesn't. If he was in it for the money he would charge as much as the other pharmacies for LDN. Irmat might be a great LDN provider but did you know that they also sell all the CRABs as well! They are in it for the money! Skip's Pharmacy does not sell ABCRs because Skip does not believe in them. He knows LDN beats all that pharmaceutical MS CRAP! He could make so much more money selling a $1.000 a month medication versus a $18.50 a month LDN! But he won't! And he gets accused of being in it for the money! I just hope Skip and Cyndi know that most of us capsule takers or liquid makers appreciate what they are doing for us and for the LDN cause!Gabi

[Guest guest]

I agree with you 100%.  I hate to say it but all the bickering is getting on my nerves.  It would be nice if there was someone available to moderate this list.  To help keep everything in line and professional.  Just my thoughts.All The Best, ...helpful support groups for people with MSLDN_Users & www.ldnusers.orglow dose naltrexonemscuredTheChronicIllnessCafe On Jul 6, 2006, at 11:59 AM, oothappam wrote: I think, then, that perhaps we need this group to be moderated. [low dose naltrexone] Dr. Skip & this group I can not believe what just happened the last few days. I can not believe that we lost Skip in this group because of one person! We might also loose Cyndi. We all know more about MS and LDN than most people do. But when it comes to being an expert hardly any of us can claim that. There are maybe a handful LDN experts out there. Dr. Bihari, Dr. Gluck, Dr. Lawrence and Dr. Skip. So when we get one of those experts willing to be part of this group what happens? One, ONE person has to be a jerk and that's the end of it. I understand Skip, he doesn't want to put up with this crap, who can blame him? I just wish we lost someone else and keep Skip!I have met Skip last year when I needed help with some LDN side-effects, and I called him a few times since then whenever I had a question or concern and he always answered my questions and put me at ease. He is a super nice guy! And I was at this years conference and I saw all those "men in suits" and I met all those LDN doctors and Anne and her brother Dr. Boyle and I feel so fortunate to have been there and seen these guys so excited about LDN and what it can do for so many. So the Skip's had this fantastic idea of putting this whole conference on video and to post it on the LDN web-site so that everybody can see what they weren't able to in April. Now they took this idea even further and are putting it on a DVD so that all the doctors who don't have time to go to a web-site can see why we are so excited about LDN. The Skip's spend their own money and time to do this for US! And what do they get? I can not believe how someone can be so full of himself to question Skip's integrity. He was the one who investigated the fillers to make sure we all know which filler works and which doesn't. If he was in it for the money he would charge as much as the other pharmacies for LDN. Irmat might be a great LDN provider but did you know that they also sell all the CRABs as well! They are in it for the money! Skip's Pharmacy does not sell ABCRs because Skip does not believe in them. He knows LDN beats all that pharmaceutical MS CRAP! He could make so much more money selling a $1.000 a month medication versus a $18.50 a month LDN! But he won't! And he gets accused of being in it for the money! I just hope Skip and Cyndi know that most of us capsule takers or liquid makers appreciate what they are doing for us and for the LDN cause!Gabi

[Guest guest]

>

> Gabi,

> I really don't think we are going to lose Skip or Cyndi. They

care too

> much for us MS'ers (I never used that term) and they are not going

to be

> beat by such trashy comments. They are too smart for that. I

think if we

> just ignore it we might be able to make it go away,

> Peg

>

>

--

Although we rarely hear from them let's not forget there are also

people here who are afflicted with disease/illness other than

multiple sclerosis. Cancer, HIV/AIDS, etc. This group is not just for

those with MS.

Artie

[Guest guest]

You are right Artie, I apologize! In my anger and frustration I was

inconsiderate towards non MSlers. Sorry!

Gabi

> >

> > Gabi,

> > I really don't think we are going to lose Skip or Cyndi.

They

> care too

> > much for us MS'ers (I never used that term) and they are not

going

> to be

> > beat by such trashy comments. They are too smart for that. I

> think if we

> > just ignore it we might be able to make it go away,

> > Peg

> >

> >

>

> --

>

> Although we rarely hear from them let's not forget there are also

> people here who are afflicted with disease/illness other than

> multiple sclerosis. Cancer, HIV/AIDS, etc. This group is not just

for

> those with MS.

>

> Artie

>

[Guest guest]

Gabi, I could not agree more! Some people are just ignorant! I use Skips pharmacy and appreciate them so much! Donnaoothappam <oothappam@...> wrote: I think, then, that perhaps we need this group to be moderated. [low dose naltrexone] Dr. Skip & this group I can not believe what just happened the last few days. I can not believe that we lost Skip in this group because of one person! We might also loose Cyndi. We all know more about MS and LDN than most people do. But when it comes to being an expert hardly any of us can claim that. There are maybe a handful LDN experts out there. Dr. Bihari, Dr. Gluck, Dr. Lawrence and Dr. Skip. So when we get one of those experts willing to be part of this group what happens? One, ONE person has to be a jerk and

that's the end of it. I understand Skip, he doesn't want to put up with this crap, who can blame him? I just wish we lost someone else and keep Skip!I have met Skip last year when I needed help with some LDN side-effects, and I called him a few times since then whenever I had a question or concern and he always answered my questions and put me at ease. He is a super nice guy! And I was at this years conference and I saw all those "men in suits" and I met all those LDN doctors and Anne and her brother Dr. Boyle and I feel so fortunate to have been there and seen these guys so excited about LDN and what it can do for so many. So the Skip's had this fantastic idea of putting this whole conference on video and to post it on the LDN web-site so that everybody can see what they weren't able to in April. Now they took this idea even further and are putting it on a DVD so that all the doctors who don't have time to go to

a web-site can see why we are so excited about LDN. The Skip's spend their own money and time to do this for US! And what do they get? I can not believe how someone can be so full of himself to question Skip's integrity. He was the one who investigated the fillers to make sure we all know which filler works and which doesn't. If he was in it for the money he would charge as much as the other pharmacies for LDN. Irmat might be a great LDN provider but did you know that they also sell all the CRABs as well! They are in it for the money! Skip's Pharmacy does not sell ABCRs because Skip does not believe in them. He knows LDN beats all that pharmaceutical MS CRAP! He could make so much more money selling a $1.000 a month medication versus a $18.50 a month LDN! But he won't! And he gets accused of being in it for the money! I just hope Skip and Cyndi know that most of us capsule takers or liquid makers appreciate what they

are doing for us and for the LDN cause!Gabi

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