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Hello Everyone,

I am new to this group and just wanted to introduce my self. I

have been dealing with my dauthers BP for almost 6 years now. She

has lived with her mother, me (we are divorced), and countless

hospitals and RTC's. She is currently in an RTC but has shown some

great improvement and she is ready to be released. She is not

allowed to go back to her mothers due to other issues in the home so

she asked me if she could come make to live with me. She has been in

our home before and was removed by child protective service because

she accussed my wife of child abuse. This was never proved but she

needed more help than we could provide her. I am excited but scared

about her coming back home because I know of the hell I have been

through in the past and I don't want to go through that again. I am

trying to get as much information on BP an and find any support

groups so that I can learn to deal with her behavior problems when

they arrise. I just started looking through the messages so I can

see what other people have been experiening just in case it may help

me. Appreciate any feedback anyone would be willing to provide. She

will be coming home in 2 weeks so I want to make this a priority. We

will also be looking for any support groups in our area because the

face to face might also be helpful.

Thanks,

Bill

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Hi Tony,

Thanks for the welcome. Sounds like we have been through a lot

of similiar situations. My daughter has tried to come between me and

my wife and almost split us up. She is not allowed to go back to her

mothers because of other issues in the home and I am leary about her

coming back here but she has no place else to go. She will be 18 in

2 months. She is familiar with the area and has friends and is

talking about moving in with then after she turns 18. We will see

what happens. There was a time when I told her that she could not

come back to live with me because of all the problems and hurt

feelings. We have been able to work through all that and I hope that

this stay will be better than her last one. Yes, it was a very

difficult thing to tell her that she could not live with me. I had

to make that difficult decision because I had 3 other children in the

home to worry about and she has been violent in the past. We have

not seen those behaviors in a long time so maybe things are getting

better. I just don't want to get to the point where I think

everything is GREAT and then go through another set back. She used

to go through these cycles every two weeks. I am trying to educate

my self and my family on better ways to deal with her behavior

instead of engaging it.

Bill

> Hi Bill, glad to see another custodial father on the board. My

daughter, S,

> has spent the past three years in RTC's, tried living with me and

my wife,

> not her Mom, and we have had to send her back to RTC's each time

after mayhem

> and destruction nearly destroyed our marriage. Her Mom and I are

also

> divorced and I took custody to " fix " things, that's what us guys

do. S will

> be 18 in August and I am trying to get her into the military since

living

> here is not an option, nor is living with her mother and S needs

boundaries,

> ritual and structure.

>

> My wife and I have had to do the hard thing and tell her that

because of past

> actions the consequence is no home to come to. Breaks my heart but

I can't

> fix her and also can't allow more destruction, to us and herself.

It may

> sound cold, but one life is already in danger and adding two more

won't

> change anything for S. I admit to not understanding what goes on in

her head.

> But, I do know that whatever it is only she can change her

perceptions and I

> have to brace myself to accept the guilt of " failure " as I also

accept the

> responsibility for protecting myself and my wife.

> Tony

>

>

>

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Bill,

I found two helpful things. One is the monthly NAMI support group. The web

site is:

www2.gdi.net/~namigo

The other is the SWOE workbook, it's a hands on workbook that helps you work

through

solutions while learning.

Katy

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Hi Tony,

Thanks for the welcome. Sounds like we have been through a lot

of similiar situations. My daughter has tried to come between me and

my wife and almost split us up. She is not allowed to go back to her

mothers because of other issues in the home and I am leary about her

coming back here but she has no place else to go. She will be 18 in

2 months. She is familiar with the area and has friends and is

talking about moving in with then after she turns 18. We will see

what happens. There was a time when I told her that she could not

come back to live with me because of all the problems and hurt

feelings. We have been able to work through all that and I hope that

this stay will be better than her last one. Yes, it was a very

difficult thing to tell her that she could not live with me. I had

to make that difficult decision because I had 3 other children in the

home to worry about and she has been violent in the past. We have

not seen those behaviors in a long time so maybe things are getting

better. I just don't want to get to the point where I think

everything is GREAT and then go through another set back. She used

to go through these cycles every two weeks. I am trying to educate

my self and my family on better ways to deal with her behavior

instead of engaging it.

Bill

> Hi Bill, glad to see another custodial father on the board. My

daughter, S,

> has spent the past three years in RTC's, tried living with me and

my wife,

> not her Mom, and we have had to send her back to RTC's each time

after mayhem

> and destruction nearly destroyed our marriage. Her Mom and I are

also

> divorced and I took custody to " fix " things, that's what us guys

do. S will

> be 18 in August and I am trying to get her into the military since

living

> here is not an option, nor is living with her mother and S needs

boundaries,

> ritual and structure.

>

> My wife and I have had to do the hard thing and tell her that

because of past

> actions the consequence is no home to come to. Breaks my heart but

I can't

> fix her and also can't allow more destruction, to us and herself.

It may

> sound cold, but one life is already in danger and adding two more

won't

> change anything for S. I admit to not understanding what goes on in

her head.

> But, I do know that whatever it is only she can change her

perceptions and I

> have to brace myself to accept the guilt of " failure " as I also

accept the

> responsibility for protecting myself and my wife.

> Tony

>

>

>

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Hello Katy,

Thanks for the info. I have been in contact with my local NAMI

representative and will be attending the next support group. What is

SWOE and where can I find more information about it?

Bill

> > Hi Bill, glad to see another custodial father on the board. My

> daughter, S,

> > has spent the past three years in RTC's, tried living with me

and

> my wife,

> > not her Mom, and we have had to send her back to RTC's each time

> after mayhem

> > and destruction nearly destroyed our marriage. Her Mom and I are

> also

> > divorced and I took custody to " fix " things, that's what us guys

> do. S will

> > be 18 in August and I am trying to get her into the military

since

> living

> > here is not an option, nor is living with her mother and S needs

> boundaries,

> > ritual and structure.

> >

> > My wife and I have had to do the hard thing and tell her that

> because of past

> > actions the consequence is no home to come to. Breaks my heart

but

> I can't

> > fix her and also can't allow more destruction, to us and

herself.

> It may

> > sound cold, but one life is already in danger and adding two

more

> won't

> > change anything for S. I admit to not understanding what goes on

in

> her head.

> > But, I do know that whatever it is only she can change her

> perceptions and I

> > have to brace myself to accept the guilt of " failure " as I also

> accept the

> > responsibility for protecting myself and my wife.

> > Tony

> >

> >

> >

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Hello Lyn,

Appreciate your email. I don't mind sharing my story as long as

it helps someone else. I figured I have this wealth of know from

this experience, why not share it. I am glad there is someplace for

parents to go to get support and info from other parents. I really

wish I would have known about this a long time ago. I look foward to

being part of this group and helping in any way I can.

Bill

> Hi,everyone and thanks Bill for telling your story, I am new to

group and

> have daughter with BPD she is now 20 and has also put the whole

family

> through hell and although I have only known of BPD for only 2 years

and have

> been trying to cope alone. She now lives around the corner with

her

> boyfriend (who has ADD & epilepy) and his mom and dad who are

blind. At

> first this worked well but now she has abused them and they are not

happy

> with the way its turning out. They want to protect their son but

they also

> know I cannot have her back in our house or it will tear us apart.

We are

> very fragile at present.

>

> unfortunately I still have to deal with all the abuse and anger

that she

> still throws my way and blames me for all her miserable life. But

she also

> is now piling it on the boyfriend who is wanting out and he is

looking to me

> for support.

>

> My husband doesn't want to help or acknowledge the whole mess and

my son

> also has turned his back on it. I would love to get involved with

a support

> group or even start one in Melbourne but do not know how many of us

are

> seeking this.

>

> I am always afraid that she will have no where to go and will come

back

> so I feel for you right now.

>

> I am pleased to be reading so much more about BPD and the suggested

books

> although they upset me I need to know about boundaries and not

> to be the sponge as they say.

>

> Keep us posted you will have many supporters to help you along the

way.

>

>

> >From: " bg670iii <bg670iii@a...> " <bg670iii@a...>

> >Reply-To: WTOParentsOfBPs

> >To: WTOParentsOfBPs

> >Subject: New to Group

> >Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:13:18 -0000

> >

> >Hello Everyone,

> >

> > I am new to this group and just wanted to introduce my self.

I

> >have been dealing with my dauthers BP for almost 6 years now. She

> >has lived with her mother, me (we are divorced), and countless

> >hospitals and RTC's. She is currently in an RTC but has shown some

> >great improvement and she is ready to be released. She is not

> >allowed to go back to her mothers due to other issues in the home

so

> >she asked me if she could come make to live with me. She has been

in

> >our home before and was removed by child protective service because

> >she accussed my wife of child abuse. This was never proved but she

> >needed more help than we could provide her. I am excited but

scared

> >about her coming back home because I know of the hell I have been

> >through in the past and I don't want to go through that again. I

am

> >trying to get as much information on BP an and find any support

> >groups so that I can learn to deal with her behavior problems when

> >they arrise. I just started looking through the messages so I can

> >see what other people have been experiening just in case it may

help

> >me. Appreciate any feedback anyone would be willing to provide.

She

> >will be coming home in 2 weeks so I want to make this a priority.

We

> >will also be looking for any support groups in our area because the

> >face to face might also be helpful.

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Bill

> >

> >

>

>

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HELLO AND WELCOME, what state are you in? I know here in NJ, and with my

daughter DD-16, each facility she went to, tho each only lasted 6 days, she was

given schooling at each place so as not to lose any time or credit. I

currently am finally, looking at a long term facility, altho it is involuntary,

and

she's quite reluctant, until i told her that I would get juvy involved and have

it court ordered for her to go, then she changed her tune. anyway, they have

structured schooling each day and continue to get credit. they send papers to

the school, the school signs them and returns them. i would think any state

would have to offer continued education no matter where she goes.

I hope this helps. they should be able to answer these questions for you.

Good luck.

Debbie

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> HELLO AND WELCOME, what state are you in

We are in central Florida.

anyway, they have

> structured schooling each day and continue to get credit. they

send papers to

> the school, the school signs them and returns them. i would think

any state

> would have to offer continued education no matter where she goes.

From my understanding, this is how it would work if she went to a

juvenile facility. But I am told that the adult facilites (she is

18) do not " have the facilites " for school. So the best I can hope

for at this point is maybe a hospital bound type of situation, where

the teacher goes to her. She was in a program for hospital bound

when she had some surgery a couple of years ago and was out for 2

months. The teacher came to the house while she recuperated and she

attended one class by phone. The problem as I see it is that we live

and she actually goes to school in one county and the facility she

will most like be sent to is in a second county, so I hope they can

work something out.

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> She's suggested contacting your local school district

administration not the

> school she may have been attending. She also had indicated that our

local SD

> is required by law to provide SpEd ed. instruction for children 19

and

> younger in long-term care situations.

I have several calls in at the school level. guess I will start on

the district level on Monday. Seems like there has to be a way to do

it, not force her to drop out.

Don't know if that's a lot of help

> for you, but also maybe you could contact your state dept. of ed,

ombudsman

> if you're not being heard by them (DOE). I'd also (like to) think

that the

> facility where she may be placed would have some resources for you

to follow

> up on.

I will follow up with the facility as soon as she gets there and try

to work with them on a way to do this. Until then, I am requesting

assignments from her teachers and taking them back and forth.

Thank you and your daughter very much.

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