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I was taking Betaseron for over a year and had to quit because of

suicide thoughts and depression and panic attacks. I quit about 3

weeks ago and started LDN the 2 of May. I noticed my fatigue is worse

and that seems to bring out some MS syptoms. I was wondering if anyone

else went through this and if so does it go away. I think the reason I

am so fatigued is becaused the LDN is causing me to dream all night

and then I wake up feeling like I haven't slept at all. Also does

anyone know if the dreams go away or not. Any imput would help thank you.

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Has anyone ever heard of taking LDN every other day? Since my DM appears to be

either gone or in remission, my Dr. suggested that I take it every other day.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

Jen

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From: holloway-eva@...

Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 10:49:36 -0700

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it has helped me and I have both Interstitual lung disease and DM. My

lungs are clear now and my DM is a lot better. It will take some time and you

have to take your medication at all time. I also take NAC which helps with the

lung. Just look up the letters NAC on the computer, it will give you lots of

help, also ALA.

regards,

Eva

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Does LDN help with Interstitial Lung Disease? I have it and

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It has helped my pulmonary hypertension (I think, my symptoms at least) so it

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Can I ask what meds you are taking for PH? And how were you dx with PH? do you

have SD?

Thanks, Debbie

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It has helped my pulmonary hypertension (I think, my symptoms at least) so it

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I take no meds for PH, yet. My Dr. says 3 more pressure points and I have to. I

was diagnosed thru echocardiogram. I have CREST.

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Hi, I have Crest as well....what was your pulm pressure if you don't mind my

asking....my heart Dr tells me he sees damages on the rt side of the heart in

addition to the triscupid leak pressure...and that he sees the left ventricle

getting smaller....

Did your heart DR want to do a heart cath? My cardiac Dr wants to and I am

saying no, I just don't feel I need one at this time...

I am going for another echo in a few months, different DR...just to get more

info..

Keep us posted...Debbie

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I take no meds for PH, yet. My Dr. says 3 more pressure points and I have to.

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My pressure was 26 in January 2009, 34 in January 2010 and 41 in June 2010. I am

concerned that it is going up quickly. I have mild regurgitation also but no

other damage so to speak. In 2009 the echo said severe mitral valve prolapse but

for some reason the echo now doesn't say that. My cardiologist is not that

concerned but I said I was so I sought out a PH specialist. He has not said I

need to do a heart cath at this time, nor do I want to. I had a bronchoscopy in

'07 and had a severe inflammatory response so I want to avoid any unnecessary

invasive procedures. I am satisfied I have PH so I don't really see the point in

doing the heart cath. My goal is to reverse the PH through AP and LDN. May be a

pipe dream but that is my goal!

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My pressure changes depending on where and who does and reads the Echo...I know

that the PH spec here in town, Cincinnati, said he believes in beginning the PH

meds immediately when dx...because that way you can try and stop it from

climbing higher, limit damage to the heart...

Yes, I have severe responses to anything they do invasively.....I had a lung

biopsy years ago, etc...and everything that can happen, did...That is my

feeling...why do the heart cath, if you think I have it, go ahead and treat

me...or if you can see the heart damage from the PH on the echo, then treat

me...he wants the gold standard of diagnostic tools, the heart cath...

Since he is the only PH spec here in town, I won't burn bridges but I see no

reason to do the heart cath now...

Hang in there. Debb

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My pressure was 26 in January 2009, 34 in January 2010 and 41 in June 2010. I

am concerned that it is going up quickly. I have mild regurgitation also but no

other damage so to speak. In 2009 the echo said severe mitral valve prolapse but

for some reason the echo now doesn't say that. My cardiologist is not that

concerned but I said I was so I sought out a PH specialist. He has not said I

need to do a heart cath at this time, nor do I want to. I had a bronchoscopy in

'07 and had a severe inflammatory response so I want to avoid any unnecessary

invasive procedures. I am satisfied I have PH so I don't really see the point in

doing the heart cath. My goal is to reverse the PH through AP and LDN. May be a

pipe dream but that is my goal!

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Hi Marla. it is not a pipe dream.  I had severed pulmonary fibrosis back

when I was diagnosed with CREST and MCTD & R/A. My doc's said I had

approximately 5-6 months more to live.  That is how bad my lungs were

sclerosed.  I went for  pulmonary function test and was breathing at 50%

capacity so they sent me for PH test which called for me getting on a

treadmill.  I nearly passed out and so the test was aborted.  I never went

back, but stayed on my minocin for 5 yrs and gradually got better. My ANA & RF

were sky high at 640 and in the high 90's.  My scans confirmed the Fibrosis in

the lungs.  Today, my blood work is 0 & 0 and my latest chest x-rays show no

sign of disease.  The findings are all normal..... I still take 50 mg. of

Minocin MWF as a preventative.  My doc has declared me in complete remission. 

Tomorrow I will be 74 yrs. old. I can dance, sing, snorkle, hike, lift heavy

things and take care of my 96 yr. old Mom with Als.I have

elinimated all heart meds, asthma meds, cholesterol meds, have halved my

diabetes meds and my antihypertensive meds.  The final organ to heal is my

digestive track.  That is healing fine.  I am no longer on Proton pump meds

and the diarrhea is gone.  I take a lactaid once in a while for lactose

intolerance, but find that I am becoming more and more tolerant to most dairy

products.  Once I had to carry bottles of medication around with me.  Now I

take 3-4 pills per/day and feeling fine and stronger than ever..... That pipe

dream can be a reality.  Just hang in there.  Best to you, Dolores

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My pressure changes depending on where and who does and reads the Echo...I know

that the PH spec here in town, Cincinnati, said he believes in beginning the PH

meds immediately when dx...because that way you can try and stop it from

climbing higher, limit damage to the heart...

Yes, I have severe responses to anything they do invasively.....I had a lung

biopsy years ago, etc...and everything that can happen, did...That is my

feeling...why do the heart cath, if you think I have it, go ahead and treat

me...or if you can see the heart damage from the PH on the echo, then treat

me...he wants the gold standard of diagnostic tools, the heart cath...

Since he is the only PH spec here in town, I won't burn bridges but I see no

reason to do the heart cath now...

Hang in there. Debb

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My pressure was 26 in January 2009, 34 in January 2010 and 41 in June 2010. I am

concerned that it is going up quickly. I have mild regurgitation also but no

other damage so to speak. In 2009 the echo said severe mitral valve prolapse but

for some reason the echo now doesn't say that. My cardiologist is not that

concerned but I said I was so I sought out a PH specialist. He has not said I

need to do a heart cath at this time, nor do I want to. I had a bronchoscopy in

'07 and had a severe inflammatory response so I want to avoid any unnecessary

invasive procedures. I am satisfied I have PH so I don't really see the point in

doing the heart cath. My goal is to reverse the PH through AP and LDN. May be a

pipe dream but that is my goal!

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Hi Dolores,

your reply to Marla about the pipe dream being real, was so encouraging to me,

and I'm sure many others.  4yrs homebound with RA (and only 60yrs young)  hard

at times to remember all I use to do.  I know the body can heal, and know AP

and LDN is the road to heal.  Thank you!! Blessings, sally

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Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 8:56 AM

 

My pressure changes depending on where and who does and reads the Echo...I know

that the PH spec here in town, Cincinnati, said he believes in beginning the PH

meds immediately when dx...because that way you can try and stop it from

climbing higher, limit damage to the heart...

Yes, I have severe responses to anything they do invasively.....I had a lung

biopsy years ago, etc...and everything that can happen, did...That is my

feeling...why do the heart cath, if you think I have it, go ahead and treat

me...or if you can see the heart damage from the PH on the echo, then treat

me...he wants the gold standard of diagnostic tools, the heart cath...

Since he is the only PH spec here in town, I won't burn bridges but I see no

reason to do the heart cath now...

Hang in there. Debb

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My pressure was 26 in January 2009, 34 in January 2010 and 41 in June 2010. I am

concerned that it is going up quickly. I have mild regurgitation also but no

other damage so to speak. In 2009 the echo said severe mitral valve prolapse but

for some reason the echo now doesn't say that. My cardiologist is not that

concerned but I said I was so I sought out a PH specialist. He has not said I

need to do a heart cath at this time, nor do I want to. I had a bronchoscopy in

'07 and had a severe inflammatory response so I want to avoid any unnecessary

invasive procedures. I am satisfied I have PH so I don't really see the point in

doing the heart cath. My goal is to reverse the PH through AP and LDN. May be a

pipe dream but that is my goal!

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& gt; & gt; & gt; dermatomyositis and wondering if the LDN might help both? --Celia

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That is so encouraging! I really want to heal my lungs with my current treatment

which is AP and LDN and not muddy the waters with other more toxic and expensive

drugs that may be unnecessary. I see it as a race against time. If I can get my

pressures down with these two meds then I won't have to go on the other stuff.

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Debbie did something calle photophoresis for her PH Ask her about that. She

said it helped her a lot. I believe it was thru her doctor, Dr. Whitman in NJ. I

also saw Dr. Whitman a few times. But by that time I was well on my way to

recovery so I didn't need to do anything further than antibiotics. Best to you.

Dolores

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To all who are desperately seeking wellness, it can be achieved.  It is a long

hard battle, with lots of tears, frustrations and setbacks.  But hang in there,

all of you please.  This battle can be won.  It takes much patience and

strength.  When you feel like giving up, just post a note and think of the ones

like myself who have made it to remission. Stay on your antibiotics and off

toxic meds.  There is no such thing as a quick fix. Your diseases were slow in

developing and they will be slow in healing.  What ever you all do, don't give

up, ever. Everytime I got discouraged I thought about Lance Armstrong who beat

the odds of terminal cancer and that kept me going.  Find a dream and a hero

and hang on to that.  You will see it thru....I did!~~~Still in remission and

still on Minocin 50mg now MWF as a preventative.  RF-0 & ANA-0---no sign of

former Pulmonary Fibrosis.  Healing process still on going from Scleroderma

(CREST)-R/A, &

MCTD......Dolores 

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Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: Question about LDN

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 8:56 AM

 

My pressure changes depending on where and who does and reads the Echo...I know

that the PH spec here in town, Cincinnati, said he believes in beginning the PH

meds immediately when dx...because that way you can try and stop it from

climbing higher, limit damage to the heart...

Yes, I have severe responses to anything they do invasively.....I had a lung

biopsy years ago, etc...and everything that can happen, did...That is my

feeling...why do the heart cath, if you think I have it, go ahead and treat

me...or if you can see the heart damage from the PH on the echo, then treat

me...he wants the gold standard of diagnostic tools, the heart cath...

Since he is the only PH spec here in town, I won't burn bridges but I see no

reason to do the heart cath now...

Hang in there. Debb

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My pressure was 26 in January 2009, 34 in January 2010 and 41 in June 2010. I am

concerned that it is going up quickly. I have mild regurgitation also but no

other damage so to speak. In 2009 the echo said severe mitral valve prolapse but

for some reason the echo now doesn't say that. My cardiologist is not that

concerned but I said I was so I sought out a PH specialist. He has not said I

need to do a heart cath at this time, nor do I want to. I had a bronchoscopy in

'07 and had a severe inflammatory response so I want to avoid any unnecessary

invasive procedures. I am satisfied I have PH so I don't really see the point in

doing the heart cath. My goal is to reverse the PH through AP and LDN. May be a

pipe dream but that is my goal!

& gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; Does LDN help with Interstitial Lung Disease? I have it and

& gt; & gt; & gt; dermatomyositis and wondering if the LDN might help both? --Celia

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yes, the pipe dreams become reality. Even after I broke my hip I stayed on my

antibiotic protocol. They were suprised how well I heald in a short time. I went

home 11 days of rehab  even the surgoen and my GP told me, after 4 weeks

that I heald very well in a short time and my colors were good. I am still

limping some, using a cane but it has only been 6 weeks since the surgery and I

am almost back to normal. I think it had something to do with the antibiotic

protocol and the supplements I take. Yes I took LDN for 10 months but due to the

fact that I right now take pain medication ( 1 pill a day) I can not take it,

but hoping to get of the pain meds and back to using the 4.5 mg of LDN to let me

sleep better.

Dolores, I am so glad you keep encouraging the people that are fairly new to the

AP. I know without your help and the RBF I would probably be in bed all the time

and needing help to get up. My husband thought he would have to retire, but he

is still going strong working every day and I am getting better all the time. My

pulmonary doctor told me a cuple of months ago he has never seen someone get

back to normal pulmonary functions with this illness.

If someone has pulmonary issues take a look at NAC it is very helpful if you

have pulmanry fibrosis,

Eva

From: DEBBIE GIBSON & lt;Debbullwinkle@... & gt;

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: Question about LDN

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 8:56 AM

 

My pressure changes depending on where and who does and reads the Echo...I know

that the PH spec here in town, Cincinnati, said he believes in beginning the PH

meds immediately when dx...because that way you can try and stop it from

climbing higher, limit damage to the heart...

Yes, I have severe responses to anything they do invasively.....I had a lung

biopsy years ago, etc...and everything that can happen, did...That is my

feeling...why do the heart cath, if you think I have it, go ahead and treat

me...or if you can see the heart damage from the PH on the echo, then treat

me...he wants the gold standard of diagnostic tools, the heart cath...

Since he is the only PH spec here in town, I won't burn bridges but I see no

reason to do the heart cath now...

Hang in there. Debb

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My pressure was 26 in January 2009, 34 in January 2010 and 41 in June 2010. I am

concerned that it is going up quickly. I have mild regurgitation also but no

other damage so to speak. In 2009 the echo said severe mitral valve prolapse but

for some reason the echo now doesn't say that. My cardiologist is not that

concerned but I said I was so I sought out a PH specialist. He has not said I

need to do a heart cath at this time, nor do I want to. I had a bronchoscopy in

'07 and had a severe inflammatory response so I want to avoid any unnecessary

invasive procedures. I am satisfied I have PH so I don't really see the point in

doing the heart cath. My goal is to reverse the PH through AP and LDN. May be a

pipe dream but that is my goal!

& gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; Does LDN help with Interstitial Lung Disease? I have it and

& gt; & gt; & gt; dermatomyositis and wondering if the LDN might help both? --Celia

& lt; & gt; & lt;

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& gt; & gt;

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Marla,

 I have taken LDN for 10 months and it has helped me a lot. I could not stand

upright due to the fact I also have Dermatomyositis and it causes muscle

weakness. after taking it for 2 months I noticed that I was more upright and by

July this year I was almost walking normal (until I fell in a store and broke my

hip). It gave me a better sleep, more energy and in the time I took the LDN I

only had taken 3 Tylenol for other pain then RA. The amount you take is so

minimal that it doesn't stay in your body longer then 16 hours. If you do not

sleep well at night, then you may consider LDN, but if you have no sleep issues

than don't take it. I never could sleep more than 1 hour or 2 and then I would

lay awake for hours before I fell asleep again because of the RA pain.

Eva

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Subject: rheumatic Re: Question about LDN

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That is so encouraging! I really want to heal my lungs with my current treatment

which is AP and LDN and not muddy the waters with other more toxic and expensive

drugs that may be unnecessary. I see it as a race against time. If I can get my

pressures down with these two meds then I won't have to go on the other stuff.

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HI everyone, just wanted to clarify, I did photopheresis for 3.5 yrs...I

developed the lung condition, common to RA...Obliterative Bronchiolitis..my body

rejected my lungs...the bronchioles were being obliterated. The photopheresis

stopped this disease in its tracks...Photopheresis has been used, to stop

pulmonary fibrosis....as well...but I did not receive it for PF or for PH...it

is NOT used for PH...

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That is so encouraging! I really want to heal my lungs with my current

treatment which is AP and LDN and not muddy the waters with other more toxic and

expensive drugs that may be unnecessary. I see it as a race against time. If I

can get my pressures down with these two meds then I won't have to go on the

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Hi Debbie, Thank you for clearing that up. It is me, Dolores who sent out the

message about people asking you re: photophoresis. I don't know much about it.

Glad it worked for the specific condition you had. Sorry, folks, I was mistaken

about its' use. It is not for PF or PH....Dolores

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Yes, Photo is used for PF....just not in my case...Yale has a photopheresis unit

and they use photo on SD patients all the time for PF...but as far as I know,

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I stand corrected again. Maybe, I should check this out more or maybe I should

not comment on things I know nothing about. My PF got cured with only the

Minocin. I guess I am just one of the lucky ones. Dolores Thank you all my

friends for the wonderful birthday greetings. Now to enjoy my breakfast and the

rest of the day with family.....Dolores

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