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Don't you need the fluoride for the teeth?

Judy

[ ] Fluoride

Hello, I have just finished reading a wonderful book on water

titled " Don't drink the water, the essential guide to our

contaminated drinking water and what you can do about it " . It was

published in 1998. The author is Luno Kahuna Kupua A'O (from Hawaii).

I read this book to help in selecting a water filter for our home. 2

things caught my eye which I thought might be of interest to this

group. Under his fluoride discussion, he states:

" Like Chlorine, Fluoride is a halogen that destroys enzyme function "

Also, he quotes a study which concluded " People who use fluoridated

water in aluminum cookware release up to 1000 times more aluminum

into their food. "

Since removing first dairy, then juice from Connor's diet, I have,

without realizing it, increased the amount of fluoride he gets each

day. He is even washing his enzymes down in fluoridated water. I

didn't realize the impact on enzyme function! We also cook with

Calphalon pans, and aluminum was high in Connor's hair.

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Judy,

Well, that depends upon who you want to believe. Apparently many studies

have shown that we not only do not need fluoridated water, but that it is

bad for us. You could read " Don't drink the water " to find out more, or just

do a web search on fluoride. Without fluoridated water, you would still get

fluoride from your toothpaste. Our children's dentist also has brushed a

fluoride treatment right onto their teeth. I am in the process of choosing a

water filter for our home, and I am leaning towards getting one that removes

the fluoride. But I am not 100% convinced yet.

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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:38:19 -0500

From: " Judy Ben-Ami " <badin@...>

Subject: Re: Fluoride

Don't you need the fluoride for the teeth?

Judy

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There are no studies that favour fluoride. Don't be misled by corporate

prancing.

It's worse than chlorine and has no place in the body beyond what you get

from your food.

ciao

Duncan

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> I dont use any sort of toothpaste. I use....

>

> Bicarboante of Soda!!!

>

> It does a much better job of getting the teeth white abnd its

really cheap.

>

> I have been using it for years and my dentist says my teeth are

structurally in great shape.

>

This is good, but I will caution you that it is highly abrasive and I

wore down the enamel on two of my teeth when I used it. So be careful

and brush lightly.

Dana

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> Does fluoride contain any phenols? My son's behavior improved rather

> dramatically when I removed the prescription fluoride drops from his

> daily regimen (our city water is not fluoridated).

If you go here

/

and search the archives for the word fluoride, you will read lots of

information about toxicity and other things.

Dana

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Does anyone know how to remove fluoride from water? I've looked at several

filters, but none of them seems to do the job, at least it is not overtly stated

on the box.

Elena

[ ] Re: fluoride

> Does fluoride contain any phenols? My son's behavior improved rather

> dramatically when I removed the prescription fluoride drops from his

> daily regimen (our city water is not fluoridated).

If you go here

/

and search the archives for the word fluoride, you will read lots of

information about toxicity and other things.

Dana

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I'm looking into removing flouride too since we just started getting

it in our city water (San ) as of last Thursday. I was not

thrilled to hear that news! Anyway, so far, reverse osmosis is

supposed to be what to use. If you have a Culligan in your area, or

some other water treatment company, they can sell or rent you a

system. I haven't checked at my local Lowes (home improvement store)

yet to see if I can install one myself, but " reverse osmosis " are the

key words here.

Laurie

>

> > Does fluoride contain any phenols? My son's behavior improved

rather

> > dramatically when I removed the prescription fluoride drops

from his

> > daily regimen (our city water is not fluoridated).

>

>

> If you go here

>

> /

>

> and search the archives for the word fluoride, you will read lots

of

> information about toxicity and other things.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

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We also use the " silly Strawberry " and it says that it is a " fluoride

toothpaste " . maybe they have two versions: one with fluoride, one with out.

Tricia

Illinois

wrote:

I just got an email from Tom's of Maine. I use their

silly strawberry for my kids as there isn't any

artificial coloring in it and they actually like it.

But i see that it is flouride free as well for those

of you who have recently been concerned about

flouride.

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We use it too, only because the others were too sweet and my kids

wouldn't use them.

We also live in Illinois, just west of Chgo. The stuff around here

does have fluoride. I wonder if it is a regional thing?

Heidi

--- In @y..., " Morin Family " <morinfamily4@c...>

wrote:

> We also use the " silly Strawberry " and it says that it is

a " fluoride

> toothpaste " . maybe they have two versions: one with fluoride, one

with out.

>

> Tricia

> Illinois

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Think i just sent the email without the info. Here it

is i think...

New Products

Teach your kids healthy brushing habits with Tom's of

Maine Natural Fluoride-Free Silly Strawberry

Toothpaste for Children. Because it's fluoride-free,

you won't have to worry if more toothpaste ends up in

your child's tummy than in the sink.

--- Morin Family <morinfamily4@...> wrote:

> We also use the " silly Strawberry " and it says that

> it is a " fluoride

> toothpaste " . maybe they have two versions: one with

> fluoride, one with out.

>

> Tricia

> Illinois

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I must have missed the original post regarding fluoride. I was wondering if a

problem has been found with it? Or is it just concern about little ones

swallowing the

fluoride in toothpaste? I ask because my daughter takes fluoride drops because

our well water is not fluoridated. (She brushes with Orajel toddler training

toothpaste,

which is fluoride-free.)

Thanks,

Barbara

PA

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If a child gets too much, it can discolor the teeth and also cause

pitting.

My children were on fluoride too, because our water doesn't have any.

But once they started using fluoride toothpaste and getting the

treatments at the dentist I was told they didn't need the vitamins

with the fluoride anymore.

I am concerned a little because processed foods have fluoride because

of the water used, but the label doesn't tell you how much.

A few years ago the news reported something about the fluoride in

baby food. I seem to remember something about when water is boiled

the fluoride stays behind. So, it could become a higher concentrate

of fluoride than recommended. But you never know, maybe a

different study showed this not to be true. My children never ate a

lot of baby food, so I may not have paid enough attention to the

reports. Maybe some one else has heard about this and they can jump

in.

Heidi

--- In @y..., Barbara Eckert <borjeckert@m...>

wrote:

> I must have missed the original post regarding fluoride. I was

wondering if a problem has been found with it? Or is it just concern

about little ones swallowing the

> fluoride in toothpaste? I ask because my daughter takes fluoride

drops because our well water is not fluoridated. (She brushes with

Orajel toddler training toothpaste,

> which is fluoride-free.)

> Thanks,

> Barbara

> PA

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This is totally neat to learn about. Wiley swallows some of it still so I

discontinued all toothpaste use - now I can venture there again. If a child

is getting fluoride supplements is there any reason the paste needs fluoride

anyway? And then, the chicken egg thing, is there some reason I'm supposed

to supplement Wiley if it's already in the toothpaste?? Anyone know?

>From: rebecca banner <fanof2rustywallace@...>

>

>Think i just sent the email without the info. Here it

>is i think...

>

>

>

> New Products

>Teach your kids healthy brushing habits with Tom's of

>Maine Natural Fluoride-Free Silly Strawberry

>Toothpaste for Children. Because it's fluoride-free,

>you won't have to worry if more toothpaste ends up in

>your child's tummy than in the sink.

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We use Blue's Clues - it does have flouride and Josh loves it

(probably because of the sweetness) but at least he's getting the

brush into his mouth!

Hey - Illinoisians - we're in Illinois also. We had a small get-

together in ton this past weekend (only us and Jody with her

Evan). We are pretty far west of Chicago - any chance for another

get-together sometime?

Sherry, , (typical 15-year-old), and (4 and

trying very, very hard!)

> > We also use the " silly Strawberry " and it says that it is

> a " fluoride

> > toothpaste " . maybe they have two versions: one with fluoride,

one

> with out.

> >

> > Tricia

> > Illinois

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Does anyone know if boiling water removes the fluoride and other

metals? I have a Pur water filter on my kitchen sink, but that

doesn't remove the fluoride. What about bottled water? I know

Jewel has their brand of Bottled infant water that isn't supposed to

have fluoride in it. How would you get fluoride out of the the bath

water? Would installing a filter on the pipes coming into the house

remove the fluoride? Please share any knowledge regarding

fluoride. P.s. Tom's of Maine (can get at Target) has a kid's and

adult's toothpaste that doesn't contain fluoride.

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