Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 In a message dated 17/12/02 18:21:41 GMT Standard Time, resmith315@... writes: > The nutritionist I spoke with said I was the only person she > had ever seen do low carb right.....meaning I ate healthy fats, from all > food > groups including fruits and milk and watched the calories. > > hello ressy i would love to know exactly what you ate then....any chance of telling? annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 Hi, a...I'm a type one (LADA) and I've been eating " moderate carb " for nearly five years now. The business about lowcarbing being dangerous because it's high protein is simply not true. A high protein diet is dangerous ONLY if you have kidney problems. I assume you don't have kidney problems. Eating lowcarb will not cause kidney problems...but high BGs will. Secondly, just because you're lowcarbing, doesn't mean that you're eating high protein. There are three components to foods: fat, carbs and protein. If you lower one, you eat more of the other TWO. You don't have to cut back on fats when you're low carbing at all...as a matter of fact, it 's better NOT to eat lowfat foods if you're low carbing. Don't worry, you won't gain weight if you eat higher fat foods. (I assume you're taking vitamin supplements to make up for what you're not getting from lower carb eating.) So...you can eat lower carbs but raise your protein AND fat components...there will be no damage to your kidneys or other body parts. I eat about 100 carbs a day and have for about 4-1/2 years. For dinner I have a four or five-ounce piece of meat/chicken/fish (all protein, but five ounces couldn't be considered high). I also may have bacon or sausage occasionally for breakfast. My main source of protein is cheese, which I eat every day...but certainly not in excessive amounts. I may have one 26-gram slice of cheddar cheese in my cauliflower...I have about 60 grams of ricotta cheese with DaVinci syrup for dessert. And I eat plenty of veggies, which have small amounts of protein. I take UL insulin for basal and Humalog matched to carbs for meals. My last A1C was -- taDA -- 4.6. I'm extremely healthy and energetic and I have absolutely no problems with my kidneys or anything else, for that matter. Vicki In a message dated 12/17/2002 10:42:23 AM US Mountain Standard Time, eb1011@... writes: > > I wanted to see if I could talk to some other type one women on this > network > about their eating habits and future with diabetes. I am a newly diagnosed > type one 21 year old female and am having trouble figuring if I should have > > this low carb diet recommended by Dr. Bernstein, the book I ordered > recommended by this network. The reason is I talked to my Endo and he does > > not recommend doing a low carb diet because when you eat low carbs you end > up > eating protein instead, so he said this puts more strain on your other > organs > like your kidney's and liver to break down this much protein. Have any of > you > all been told this by your doctors? I know this book is recommend by you > all, > and I have been doing this diet now for a couple of weeks and feel good and > my > blood sugar's have been steady low. Yet, I am worried about the long run > of > our other organs. > Please feel free to contact me privately if you prefer by e-mail to > discuss this. > ~a in Texas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 I wanted to see if I could talk to some other type one women on this network about their eating habits and future with diabetes. I am a newly diagnosed type one 21 year old female and am having trouble figuring if I should have this low carb diet recommended by Dr. Bernstein, the book I ordered recommended by this network. The reason is I talked to my Endo and he does not recommend doing a low carb diet because when you eat low carbs you end up eating protein instead, so he said this puts more strain on your other organs like your kidney's and liver to break down this much protein. Have any of you all been told this by your doctors? I know this book is recommend by you all, and I have been doing this diet now for a couple of weeks and feel good and my blood sugar's have been steady low. Yet, I am worried about the long run of our other organs. Please feel free to contact me privately if you prefer by e-mail to discuss this. ~a in Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 In a message dated 12/17/2002 1:18:12 PM Central Standard Time, annettelenton@... writes: > i would love to know exactly what you ate then....any chance of telling? > What she meant was that I didn't do the typical atkins plan which according to the media hype is nothing but steak and eggs. I eat strawberries, blueberries and raspberries.....in measured limited amounts. I eat plain whole milk yogurt or ricotta cheese flavored with sf syrups. I eat almonds and walnuts. Loads of fish....limited low carb high fiber breads. Like I said....a variety and watch the calories. But I do like steak and eggs every once in a while <grin> ressy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 I'm not ; I'm Vicki...and I've been eating a moderate carb diet (about 100 per day) for nearly five years and I'm EXTREMELY healthy. The longest term lowcarber that I know of is Dr. Bernstein, he of the book, and I think he's been doing it for almost 50 years. Vicki In a message dated 12/17/2002 2:10:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time, annettelenton@... writes: > > hi roger--i got the impression in an earlier mail that long term l.carbing > was not desirable--wasnt it for a short time,and then slowly add the carbs > again? > and you are saying you have been doing it for nearly 5 years now,non stop? > is there a time when its better to make one choice than another? > annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 annettelenton@... wrote: > > In a message dated 17/12/02 20:57:25 GMT Standard Time, > roger_holmen@... writes: > > > > > Oregon > > L-Cing per Bernstein for 4 3/4 years now and still have all my > > functioning body parts! > > > hi roger--i got the impression in an earlier mail that long term l.carbing > was not desirable--wasnt it for a short time,and then slowly add the carbs > again? > and you are saying you have been doing it for nearly 5 years now,non stop? > is there a time when its better to make one choice than another? > annette Annette, I have made that choice already. I can see no reason to change from what I am presently doing. I am eating using the goal of Dr Bernstein's basic 30g/day plan, but some days it creeps up to around 50g. That's when I incorporate some additional L-C foods in more quantity than would be in the basic 30g level. I avoid all high glycemic index foods and my higher than goal levels come from just eating more of the " good L-C stuff " . Just so you know, my last HbA1c was 5.6%, and all my lipids were in the " normal " range. What I have seen in others that have been low-carbing and then started adding back in significant carbs is that they then tend to have bg's that creep up and since " carbs are addictive " , they tend to crave more of them. Of course, this is a very YMMV thing and does not apply to everyone. It's just like those that lose weight on Atkins and when they have reached their goal go back to eating lots of carbs. The weight comes back (with a vengance!) and the L-C diet gets the blame! I guess my bottom line is " if it is working, why change? " Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 to all who have replied to me--thanks for your help and comments annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 No, no, no! Carbohydrates are the worst thing for diabetics. Carbs are 'time release sugar.' (Sugar will raise your BS, but it will go back down relatively quickly; carbs raise the BS and keep it up for a long time.) Re: I need some advice.... I personally would eat carbohydrates and cut way back on the fats and protein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Dear a, I just traveled nearly 2000 miles and may have already answered your post. (I can't recall when I started westward from N.C.) There is no evidence that high protein intake damages otherwise healthy organs such as one's kidneys. Your doctor is just repeating old wives' tales. Diabetes is the 800-pound gorilla, which will trigger all sorts of other health problems (cholesterol, triglycerides, heart trouble, damage kidneys, circulation, nerve damage, etc.) if we don't achieve good control - and eating an appropriate (low-carb) diet is the simplest, cheapest, safest way to gain that control. Susie << I talked to my Endo and he does not recommend doing a low carb diet because when you eat low carbs you end up eating protein instead, so he said this puts more strain on your other organs like your kidney's and liver to break down this much protein. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Susie, my doctor disagrees with your doctor. I asked specifically about eating a high protein diet, and he said that what you eat does not contribute to protein in the urine. The leaking is a function of diabetes. Course, then he gave me yet another pill to take for my kidneys, but at least my dr. and I are on the same wavelength when it comes to lcing. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2002 Report Share Posted December 23, 2002 , I didn't have time to read anything this morning that I found as it was almost time for me to go to my appt. with my Endo, but now that I'm home, as soon as I get settled in for the night, I intend to do a bunch of reading and will forward anything I might find of interest to the list. F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2002 Report Share Posted December 24, 2002 According to the information I've read in numerous sources, we need at least 500 mg of salt per day. That's very low, less than the salt content in a single small serving of many processed foods. But I'd be very leary of going below the 500 mg. for an entire day's input. Christy > Sorryl can't give cites but I recently read that lowered sodium intake > doesn't help lower BP as much as had been previously suspected. > Vicki > > > In a message dated 12/23/2002 9:37:10 AM US Mountain Standard Time, > genna@s... writes: > > > > > > Since both Type 2 and Blood Pressure often respond to weightloss - salt has > > to be very limited. Usually I do with less than 300 mg a day - sometimes > > under 100 mg. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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