Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 > > Good Morning, I started my 1.5 mg of LDN for 6 nights, last night I > moved my dosage up to 3.0 mg. slept great no side effects except for > feeling very good almost like my ms symptoms had gone away. This > feeling slowly fades the closer I get to getting up in the morning. I > was just wondering how come I feel so good at night and so lousy > during the day? I know the LDN is doing something for me, I can feel > myself rejuvenate shortly after I take my capsule, why does it not > last longer? I did have one day of nausea but I think it was just a > flu bug because it went away. The filler I'm using is Avicel, I will > switch to Acidophilus if the nausea comes back. Do I need to be more > patient for results. Is this familar to anyone? Would like some > feedback and your thoughts and opinions are always respected. > Thanks > > ======== Hello, hello, hello....test, test, test...are my posts coming through¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ I replied earlier but don't see it anywhere. Maybe it will show up later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Hi , I have several thoughts. 1. Candida: First off, usually warns about checking for Candida. Apparently if you have it, it may keep you from feeling the full effects of LDN. 2. DLP: DL-Phenylalanine is great for helping to prolong the effects of LDN throughout the day. It is good for depression, pain and energy. You can buy it at the health food or vitamin store. The best to take is Solaray brand, 500mg. One in the morning on an empty stomach, then one in the afternoon on an empty stomach. 3. Diet: If during the day you are feeling badly, take a look at what you are eating and the effect it may possibly be having. Many MS patients seem to do better on one of the MS diets. My husband stopped eating any processed food, dairy, or glutens (wheat). The best bet diet, the Swank diet & the Gold Coast Cure all have different variations, but I think they all say don't eat processed foods. Make sure you do not have diet drinks or foods with aspartame. 4. Fillers: It sounds like you are looking into this possibility already. 5. Supplements: There are several good lists of supplements for those with MS. If you have not already received some of them, let me know and I will forward them to you. 6. LDN dosage: Play around with your dosage, but just make sure to give each amount a fair chance to work (unless you have unbearable side effects). Please keep us informed on how you are doing. We are all there with you, hoping you have excellent success. Kindest of regards Aletha [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary > > Good Morning, I started my 1.5 mg of LDN for 6 nights, last night I > moved my dosage up to 3.0 mg. slept great no side effects except for > feeling very good almost like my ms symptoms had gone away. This > feeling slowly fades the closer I get to getting up in the morning. I > was just wondering how come I feel so good at night and so lousy > during the day? I know the LDN is doing something for me, I can feel > myself rejuvenate shortly after I take my capsule, why does it not > last longer? I did have one day of nausea but I think it was just a > flu bug because it went away. The filler I'm using is Avicel, I will > switch to Acidophilus if the nausea comes back. Do I need to be more > patient for results. Is this familar to anyone? Would like some > feedback and your thoughts and opinions are always respected. > Thanks > > ======== Hello, hello, hello....test, test, test...are my posts coming through¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ I replied earlier but don't see it anywhere. Maybe it will show up later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 I would like to hear some feedback to your question as I am the very same I feel great at night but not as good come morning. Dave -----Original Message-----From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of BrenSent: 06 May 2006 04:31low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary>> Good Morning, I started my 1.5 mg of LDN for 6 nights, last night I > moved my dosage up to 3.0 mg. slept great no side effects except for > feeling very good almost like my ms symptoms had gone away. This > feeling slowly fades the closer I get to getting up in the morning. I > was just wondering how come I feel so good at night and so lousy > during the day? I know the LDN is doing something for me, I can feel > myself rejuvenate shortly after I take my capsule, why does it not > last longer? I did have one day of nausea but I think it was just a > flu bug because it went away. The filler I'm using is Avicel, I will > switch to Acidophilus if the nausea comes back. Do I need to be more > patient for results. Is this familar to anyone? Would like some > feedback and your thoughts and opinions are always respected.> Thanks> >========Hello, hello, hello....test, test, test...are my posts coming through¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ I replied earlier but don't see it anywhere. Maybe it will show up later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 For those of us who do not do well on DL-Phenylalanine, l-Tryosine is an option. Message 5 From: "Aletha Wittmann" Aletha@... Date: Fri May 5, 2006 9:11pm(PDT) Subject: Re: Update from CalgaryHi ,I have several thoughts.2. DLP: DL-Phenylalanine is great for helping to prolong the effects of LDN throughout the day. It is good for depression, pain and energy. You can buy it at the health food or vitamin store. The best to take is Solaray brand, 500mg. One in the morning on an empty stomach, then one in the afternoon on an empty stomach. mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 ,I had similar problems during my first week on LDN. I started with 3 MG. I had nausea a couple times that week, and I had a funny feeling in my legs that was always worse in the morning. I'd wake up and limp to the shower. As the day progressed it would slowly go away. Then when I woke up the very next morning it would be there again. Sometimes worse. This is my 2nd week on LDN. The funny feeling in my legs is completely gone, and I haven't had a bout of nausea in a while. I use Avicel filler as well. Now I pretty much feel the same as I did before I started LDN. It might take a week or so for your body to get used to 3 MG. Good luck.All The Best, [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary Good Morning, I started my 1.5 mg of LDN for 6 nights, last night Imoved my dosage up to 3.0 mg. slept great no side effects except forfeeling very good almost like my ms symptoms had gone away. Thisfeeling slowly fades the closer I get to getting up in the morning. Iwas just wondering how come I feel so good at night and so lousyduring the day? I know the LDN is doing something for me, I can feelmyself rejuvenate shortly after I take my capsule, why does it notlast longer? I did have one day of nausea but I think it was just aflu bug because it went away. The filler I'm using is Avicel, I willswitch to Acidophilus if the nausea comes back. Do I need to be morepatient for results. Is this familar to anyone? Would like somefeedback and your thoughts and opinions are always respected.Thanks ========Hello, hello, hello....test, test, test...are my posts coming through¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ I replied earlier but don't see it anywhere. Maybe it will show up later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Hi , It takes a Good Full 2-6 Months to feel the Full Effects of the LDN even though you may feel thing's in between..... Here is the Introductory Side Effects of LDN - Introductory Side-effects: There may be some initial transient, though temporary, increase in MS symptoms during the adaptive period when the LDN is first introduced. This usually lasts no more than one week but if symptoms are severe, or more prolonged, then the initial dose of 3 mg may be reduced to 2 mg until the anticipated improvements begin to develop. Introductory symptoms, on starting this treatment, may include such as disturbed sleep, occasionally with vivid, bizarre and disturbing dreams, tiredness, fatigue, spasm and pain. Symptoms related to increased endorphins: These may include such as nausea or constipation. These symptoms diminish naturally as the body adjusts to the increased endorphin level. Symptoms related to previous Opiate use: On starting LDN the recent use of opiate analgesics will result in an opiate withdrawal syndrome, with increased pain, spasm, vomiting and diarrhea. These symptoms may be prevented by stopping all opiate analgesics at least two weeks before starting the LDN. Symptoms related to the use of Lactose filler: If lactose filler is used in the capsules some individuals may be sensitive to this sugar and, usually after a few weeks of treatment, will develop diffuse but persistent muscle or joint pain. This may be avoided by using alternative fillers, such as calcium carbonate. Hope this helps....... Always A Friend, Crystal Jay & Beth Vaccaro <jaynbeth@...> wrote: , I had similar problems during my first week on LDN. I started with 3 MG. I had nausea a couple times that week, and I had a funny feeling in my legs that was always worse in the morning. I'd wake up and limp to the shower. As the day progressed it would slowly go away. Then when I woke up the very next morning it would be there again. Sometimes worse. This is my 2nd week on LDN. The funny feeling in my legs is completely gone, and I haven't had a bout of nausea in a while. I use Avicel filler as well. Now I pretty much feel the same as I did before I started LDN. It might take a week or so for your body to get used to 3 MG. Good luck. All The Best, [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary Good Morning, I started my 1.5 mg of LDN for 6 nights, last night I moved my dosage up to 3.0 mg. slept great no side effects except for feeling very good almost like my ms symptoms had gone away. This feeling slowly fades the closer I get to getting up in the morning. I was just wondering how come I feel so good at night and so lousy during the day? I know the LDN is doing something for me, I can feel myself rejuvenate shortly after I take my capsule, why does it not last longer? I did have one day of nausea but I think it was just a flu bug because it went away. The filler I'm using is Avicel, I will switch to Acidophilus if the nausea comes back. Do I need to be more patient for results. Is this familar to anyone? Would like some feedback and your thoughts and opinions are always respected. Thanks ======== Hello, hello, hello....test, test, test...are my posts coming through¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ I replied earlier but don't see it anywhere. Maybe it will show up later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Thanks MJH, That is great to know. Do you have any further info on l-Tryosine? I would like to save the info to share with others. Where can it be purchased, and what exactly is it? My very best Aletha Re: Update from CalgaryHi ,I have several thoughts.2. DLP: DL-Phenylalanine is great for helping to prolong the effects of LDN throughout the day. It is good for depression, pain and energy. You can buy it at the health food or vitamin store. The best to take is Solaray brand, 500mg. One in the morning on an empty stomach, then one in the afternoon on an empty stomach. mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 gotta correct this NO CALCIUM CARBONATE--IT DOES NOT BREAK DOWN cyndi Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary > >Hi , > It takes a Good Full 2-6 Months to feel the Full Effects of the LDN even though you may feel thing's in between..... > > Here is the Introductory Side Effects of LDN - > > Introductory Side-effects: There may be some initial transient, though temporary, increase in MS symptoms during the adaptive period when the LDN is first introduced. This usually lasts no more than one week but if symptoms are severe, or more prolonged, then the initial dose of 3 mg may be reduced to 2 mg until the anticipated improvements begin to develop. > > Introductory symptoms, on starting this treatment, may include such as disturbed sleep, occasionally with vivid, bizarre and disturbing dreams, tiredness, fatigue, spasm and pain. > > Symptoms related to increased endorphins: These may include such as nausea or constipation. These symptoms diminish naturally as the body adjusts to the increased endorphin level. > > Symptoms related to previous Opiate use: On starting LDN the recent use of opiate analgesics will result in an opiate withdrawal syndrome, with increased pain, spasm, vomiting and diarrhea. These symptoms may be prevented by stopping all opiate analgesics at least two weeks before starting the LDN. > > Symptoms related to the use of Lactose filler: If lactose filler is used in the capsules some individuals may be sensitive to this sugar and, usually after a few weeks of treatment, will develop diffuse but persistent muscle or joint pain. This may be avoided by using alternative fillers, such as calcium carbonate. > > Hope this helps....... > Always A Friend, > Crystal > > >Jay & Beth Vaccaro <jaynbeth@...> wrote: > > > > , > > > >I had similar problems during my first week on LDN. I started with 3 MG. I had nausea a couple times that week, and I had a funny feeling in my legs that was always worse in the morning. I'd wake up and limp to the shower. As the day progressed it would slowly go away. Then when I woke up the very next morning it would be there again. Sometimes worse. This is my 2nd week on LDN. The funny feeling in my legs is completely gone, and I haven't had a bout of nausea in a while. I use Avicel filler as well. Now I pretty much feel the same as I did before I started LDN. It might take a week or so for your body to get used to 3 MG. Good luck. > > > All The Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning, I started my 1.5 mg of LDN for 6 nights, last night I > moved my dosage up to 3.0 mg. slept great no side effects except for > feeling very good almost like my ms symptoms had gone away. This > feeling slowly fades the closer I get to getting up in the morning. I > was just wondering how come I feel so good at night and so lousy > during the day? I know the LDN is doing something for me, I can feel > myself rejuvenate shortly after I take my capsule, why does it not > last longer? I did have one day of nausea but I think it was just a > flu bug because it went away. The filler I'm using is Avicel, I will > switch to Acidophilus if the nausea comes back. Do I need to be more > patient for results. Is this familar to anyone? Would like some > feedback and your thoughts and opinions are always respected. > Thanks > > > > ======== > > > Hello, hello, hello....test, test, test...are my posts coming > through¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ > > > I replied earlier but don't see it anywhere. Maybe it will show up > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Hi Cyndi, Thanks for the tip I didn't know that but now I do......(NO CALCIUM CARBONATE--IT DOES NOT BREAK DOWN)...... Always A Friend, Crystal psychrn@... wrote: gotta correct thisNO CALCIUM CARBONATE--IT DOES NOT BREAK DOWNcyndi Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary>>Hi ,> It takes a Good Full 2-6 Months to feel the Full Effects of the LDN even though you may feel thing's in between.....> > Here is the Introductory Side Effects of LDN -> > Introductory Side-effects: There may be some initial transient, though temporary, increase in MS symptoms during the adaptive period when the LDN is first introduced. This usually lasts no more than one week but if symptoms are severe, or more prolonged, then the initial dose of 3 mg may be reduced to 2 mg until the anticipated improvements begin to develop.> > Introductory symptoms, on starting this treatment, may include such as disturbed sleep, occasionally with vivid, bizarre and disturbing dreams, tiredness, fatigue, spasm and pain. > > Symptoms related to increased endorphins: These may include such as nausea or constipation. These symptoms diminish naturally as the body adjusts to the increased endorphin level.> > Symptoms related to previous Opiate use: On starting LDN the recent use of opiate analgesics will result in an opiate withdrawal syndrome, with increased pain, spasm, vomiting and diarrhea. These symptoms may be prevented by stopping all opiate analgesics at least two weeks before starting the LDN.> > Symptoms related to the use of Lactose filler: If lactose filler is used in the capsules some individuals may be sensitive to this sugar and, usually after a few weeks of treatment, will develop diffuse but persistent muscle or joint pain. This may be avoided by using alternative fillers, such as calcium carbonate.> > Hope this helps....... > Always A Friend,> Crystal> >>Jay & Beth Vaccaro <jaynbeth@...> wrote:>> > > ,>> >>I had similar problems during my first week on LDN. I started with 3 MG. I had nausea a couple times that week, and I had a funny feeling in my legs that was always worse in the morning. I'd wake up and limp to the shower. As the day progressed it would slowly go away. Then when I woke up the very next morning it would be there again. Sometimes worse. This is my 2nd week on LDN. The funny feeling in my legs is completely gone, and I haven't had a bout of nausea in a while. I use Avicel filler as well. Now I pretty much feel the same as I did before I started LDN. It might take a week or so for your body to get used to 3 MG. Good luck.> >> All The Best,> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary> >> >> >> > >> Good Morning, I started my 1.5 mg of LDN for 6 nights, last night I> moved my dosage up to 3.0 mg. slept great no side effects except for> feeling very good almost like my ms symptoms had gone away. This> feeling slowly fades the closer I get to getting up in the morning. I> was just wondering how come I feel so good at night and so lousy> during the day? I know the LDN is doing something for me, I can feel> myself rejuvenate shortly after I take my capsule, why does it not> last longer? I did have one day of nausea but I think it was just a> flu bug because it went away. The filler I'm using is Avicel, I will> switch to Acidophilus if the nausea comes back. Do I need to be more> patient for results. Is this familar to anyone? Would like some> feedback and your thoughts and opinions are always respected.> Thanks> > >> ========> >> Hello, hello, hello....test, test, test...are my posts coming > through¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿> >> I replied earlier but don't see it anywhere. Maybe it will show up > later.> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 we atucally studied it and that was part of skips presentation at the conferance cyndi Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary >> >>Hi , >> It takes a Good Full 2-6 Months to feel the Full Effects of the LDN even though you may feel thing's in between..... >> >> Here is the Introductory Side Effects of LDN - >> >> Introductory Side-effects: There may be some initial transient, though temporary, increase in MS symptoms during the adaptive period when the LDN is first introduced. This usually lasts no more than one week but if symptoms are severe, or more prolonged, then the initial dose of 3 mg may be reduced to 2 mg until the anticipated improvements begin to develop. >> >> Introductory symptoms, on starting this treatment, may include such as disturbed sleep, occasionally with vivid, bizarre and disturbing dreams, tiredness, fatigue, spasm and pain. >> >> Symptoms related to increased endorphins: These may include such as nausea or constipation. These symptoms diminish naturally as the body adjusts to the increased endorphin level. >> >> Symptoms related to previous Opiate use: On starting LDN the recent use of opiate analgesics will result in an opiate withdrawal syndrome, with increased pain, spasm, vomiting and diarrhea. These symptoms may be prevented by stopping all opiate analgesics at least two weeks before starting the LDN. >> >> Symptoms related to the use of Lactose filler: If lactose filler is used in the capsules some individuals may be sensitive to this sugar and, usually after a few weeks of treatment, will develop diffuse but persistent muscle or joint pain. This may be avoided by using alternative fillers, such as calcium carbonate. >> >> Hope this helps....... >> Always A Friend, >> Crystal >> >> >>Jay & Beth Vaccaro <jaynbeth@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> , >> >> >> >>I had similar problems during my first week on LDN. I started with 3 MG. I had nausea a couple times that week, and I had a funny feeling in my legs that was always worse in the morning. I'd wake up and limp to the shower. As the day progressed it would slowly go away. Then when I woke up the very next morning it would be there again. Sometimes worse. This is my 2nd week on LDN. The funny feeling in my legs is completely gone, and I haven't had a bout of nausea in a while. I use Avicel filler as well. Now I pretty much feel the same as I did before I started LDN. It might take a week or so for your body to get used to 3 MG. Good luck. >> >> >> All The Best, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good Morning, I started my 1.5 mg of LDN for 6 nights, last night I >> moved my dosage up to 3.0 mg. slept great no side effects except for >> feeling very good almost like my ms symptoms had gone away. This >> feeling slowly fades the closer I get to getting up in the morning. I >> was just wondering how come I feel so good at night and so lousy >> during the day? I know the LDN is doing something for me, I can feel >> myself rejuvenate shortly after I take my capsule, why does it not >> last longer? I did have one day of nausea but I think it was just a >> flu bug because it went away. The filler I'm using is Avicel, I will >> switch to Acidophilus if the nausea comes back. Do I need to be more >> patient for results. Is this familar to anyone? Would like some >> feedback and your thoughts and opinions are always respected. >> Thanks >> >> >> >> ======== >> >> >> Hello, hello, hello....test, test, test...are my posts coming >> through¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ >> >> >> I replied earlier but don't see it anywhere. Maybe it will show up >> later. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Hi Cyndi, Someone else had actually posted the Side Effects thing and I just copied it from them. Yeah I had listened to Skip's presentation and he made me laugh while listening to him lol..... Always A Friend, Crystal psychrn@... wrote: we atucally studied it and that was part of skips presentation at the conferancecyndi Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary>>>>Hi ,>> It takes a Good Full 2-6 Months to feel the Full Effects of the LDN even though you may feel thing's in between.....>> >> Here is the Introductory Side Effects of LDN ->> >> Introductory Side-effects: There may be some initial transient, though temporary, increase in MS symptoms during the adaptive period when the LDN is first introduced. This usually lasts no more than one week but if symptoms are severe, or more prolonged, then the initial dose of 3 mg may be reduced to 2 mg until the anticipated improvements begin to develop.>> >> Introductory symptoms, on starting this treatment, may include such as disturbed sleep, occasionally with vivid, bizarre and disturbing dreams, tiredness, fatigue, spasm and pain. >> >> Symptoms related to increased endorphins: These may include such as nausea or constipation. These symptoms diminish naturally as the body adjusts to the increased endorphin level.>> >> Symptoms related to previous Opiate use: On starting LDN the recent use of opiate analgesics will result in an opiate withdrawal syndrome, with increased pain, spasm, vomiting and diarrhea. These symptoms may be prevented by stopping all opiate analgesics at least two weeks before starting the LDN.>> >> Symptoms related to the use of Lactose filler: If lactose filler is used in the capsules some individuals may be sensitive to this sugar and, usually after a few weeks of treatment, will develop diffuse but persistent muscle or joint pain. This may be avoided by using alternative fillers, such as calcium carbonate.>> >> Hope this helps....... >> Always A Friend,>> Crystal>> >>>>Jay & Beth Vaccaro <jaynbeth@...> wrote:>>>> >> >> ,>>>> >>>>I had similar problems during my first week on LDN. I started with 3 MG. I had nausea a couple times that week, and I had a funny feeling in my legs that was always worse in the morning. I'd wake up and limp to the shower. As the day progressed it would slowly go away. Then when I woke up the very next morning it would be there again. Sometimes worse. This is my 2nd week on LDN. The funny feeling in my legs is completely gone, and I haven't had a bout of nausea in a while. I use Avicel filler as well. Now I pretty much feel the same as I did before I started LDN. It might take a week or so for your body to get used to 3 MG. Good luck.>> >>>> All The Best,>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> Good Morning, I started my 1.5 mg of LDN for 6 nights, last night I>> moved my dosage up to 3.0 mg. slept great no side effects except for>> feeling very good almost like my ms symptoms had gone away. This>> feeling slowly fades the closer I get to getting up in the morning. I>> was just wondering how come I feel so good at night and so lousy>> during the day? I know the LDN is doing something for me, I can feel>> myself rejuvenate shortly after I take my capsule, why does it not>> last longer? I did have one day of nausea but I think it was just a>> flu bug because it went away. The filler I'm using is Avicel, I will>> switch to Acidophilus if the nausea comes back. Do I need to be more>> patient for results. Is this familar to anyone? Would like some>> feedback and your thoughts and opinions are always respected.>> Thanks>> >> >>>> ========>> >>>> Hello, hello, hello....test, test, test...are my posts coming >> through¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿>> >>>> I replied earlier but don't see it anywhere. Maybe it will show up >> later.>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Thanks to all the people who replied to my concerns and questions, you were all very helpful. I'll keep on posting. from Calgary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 he is very funny-he did this veterianrian thing that i'm ediiting now and he seeing me sitting at my editing table laughing. skeaing of that-i have to tell you guys this because after the fact its quite funny i wrote the whole story on my blog-but the essense is while skip was talking my slide show went off automatically and these pictures started popping up up. I put the picture here http://web.mac.com/clenz/iWeb/Site/Welcome.html you can click on blog and go the my last blog entry night all cyndi Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary >>> >>>Hi , >>> It takes a Good Full 2-6 Months to feel the Full Effects of the LDN even though you may feel thing's in between..... >>> >>> Here is the Introductory Side Effects of LDN - >>> >>> Introductory Side-effects: There may be some initial transient, though temporary, increase in MS symptoms during the adaptive period when the LDN is first introduced. This usually lasts no more than one week but if symptoms are severe, or more prolonged, then the initial dose of 3 mg may be reduced to 2 mg until the anticipated improvements begin to develop. >>> >>> Introductory symptoms, on starting this treatment, may include such as disturbed sleep, occasionally with vivid, bizarre and disturbing dreams, tiredness, fatigue, spasm and pain. >>> >>> Symptoms related to increased endorphins: These may include such as nausea or constipation. These symptoms diminish naturally as the body adjusts to the increased endorphin level. >>> >>> Symptoms related to previous Opiate use: On starting LDN the recent use of opiate analgesics will result in an opiate withdrawal syndrome, with increased pain, spasm, vomiting and diarrhea. These symptoms may be prevented by stopping all opiate analgesics at least two weeks before starting the LDN. >>> >>> Symptoms related to the use of Lactose filler: If lactose filler is used in the capsules some individuals may be sensitive to this sugar and, usually after a few weeks of treatment, will develop diffuse but persistent muscle or joint pain. This may be avoided by using alternative fillers, such as calcium carbonate. >>> >>> Hope this helps....... >>> Always A Friend, >>> Crystal >>> >>> >>>Jay & Beth Vaccaro <jaynbeth@...> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> , >>> >>> >>> >>>I had similar problems during my first week on LDN. I started with 3 MG. I had nausea a couple times that week, and I had a funny feeling in my legs that was always worse in the morning. I'd wake up and limp to the shower. As the day progressed it would slowly go away. Then when I woke up the very next morning it would be there again. Sometimes worse. This is my 2nd week on LDN. The funny feeling in my legs is completely gone, and I haven't had a bout of nausea in a while. I use Avicel filler as well. Now I pretty much feel the same as I did before I started LDN. It might take a week or so for your body to get used to 3 MG. Good luck. >>> >>> >>> All The Best, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [low dose naltrexone] Re: Update from Calgary >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Good Morning, I started my 1.5 mg of LDN for 6 nights, last night I >>> moved my dosage up to 3.0 mg. slept great no side effects except for >>> feeling very good almost like my ms symptoms had gone away. This >>> feeling slowly fades the closer I get to getting up in the morning. I >>> was just wondering how come I feel so good at night and so lousy >>> during the day? I know the LDN is doing something for me, I can feel >>> myself rejuvenate shortly after I take my capsule, why does it not >>> last longer? I did have one day of nausea but I think it was just a >>> flu bug because it went away. The filler I'm using is Avicel, I will >>> switch to Acidophilus if the nausea comes back. Do I need to be more >>> patient for results. Is this familar to anyone? Would like some >>> feedback and your thoughts and opinions are always respected. >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> ======== >>> >>> >>> Hello, hello, hello....test, test, test...are my posts coming >>> through¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ >>> >>> >>> I replied earlier but don't see it anywhere. Maybe it will show up >>> later. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 I'm so glad you wrote this. Do you have MS. I do. I was diagnosed 13 years ago and was doing very well until 3/05. Since then I have gone downhill. I had an MRI the end of April and have 3 new lesions from my last MRI. Mostly things that bother me are walking ( I don't bend my right leg when I walk) and overactive bladder. I saw new neuro last week and he thought I would benefit wrom a baclofen pump. I have found LDN and don't think I should try both. As of today I have made my mind up to start LDN amd skip the pump. Your e-mail came at the right time. What do you think? I am glad you are doing so well. -- [low dose naltrexone] Update from Calgary Hi everyone, I'm going on 3 weeks at 3mg. and have noticed my fatigue is gone. We just had 2 days of hot weather and I was able to go shopping (with the help of a shopping cart) through Costco, Home Depot and Walmart all within a 3 hour window. It seems the more I walked the easier it got. I couldn't have done this prior to taking LDN I just didn't have the energy. I've also noticed bathroom visits have decreased. I'm still very pleased with starting LDN and I am curious as to what will happen when I increase to 4.5mg. because 3mg. has already been very beneficial. I'm still feeling achy with sore muscles so I take Advil every 4 hours and it seems to take the edge off. I'm urging and encouraging everyone to stay on the band wagon with their updates and keep this LDN train going because knowledge is power and we could all use a little of that. I've met a wonderful couple in Calgary through 's LDN Forum who helped make our world a little smaller. We all have to share information, it helps one another so much. Have a great weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Did you start at 1.5 or 3 mg? -- [low dose naltrexone] Update from Calgary Hi everyone, I'm going on 3 weeks at 3mg. and have noticed my fatigue is gone. We just had 2 days of hot weather and I was able to go shopping (with the help of a shopping cart) through Costco, Home Depot and Walmart all within a 3 hour window. It seems the more I walked the easier it got. I couldn't have done this prior to taking LDN I just didn't have the energy. I've also noticed bathroom visits have decreased. I'm still very pleased with starting LDN and I am curious as to what will happen when I increase to 4.5mg. because 3mg. has already been very beneficial. I'm still feeling achy with sore muscles so I take Advil every 4 hours and it seems to take the edge off. I'm urging and encouraging everyone to stay on the band wagon with their updates and keep this LDN train going because knowledge is power and we could all use a little of that. I've met a wonderful couple in Calgary through 's LDN Forum who helped make our world a little smaller. We all have to share information, it helps one another so much. Have a great weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 -Hi , I'm sorry to hear your symptoms got worse. I'm not sure what a baclofen pump is,(just thought it was a pill), but if I were you I would check with this group and your compounding pharmacy and doctor because I think you can take both LDN and Baclofen together without any side effects. I'm not a doctor so please don't quote me without checking first. I've had RRMS for 6 years (maybe longer but was dx 6 yrs. ago) Your walking problem is the same problem I struggle with except my left leg doesn't bend. I'm very hopeful about LDN and personally feel confident in my decision to try it. I've only been on it for 3 weeks and have noticed improvements in my fatigue and bathroom visits have decreased so I know its doing something for me which is very encouraging. Keep this group updated as to how things go. -- In low dose naltrexone , " and Iselborn " <camjak@...> wrote: > > I'm so glad you wrote this. Do you have MS. I do. I was diagnosed 13 > years ago and was doing very well until 3/05. Since then I have gone > downhill. I had an MRI the end of April and have 3 new lesions from my last > MRI. Mostly things that bother me are walking ( I don't bend my right leg > when I walk) and overactive bladder. I saw new neuro last week and he > thought I would benefit wrom a baclofen pump. I have found LDN and don't > think I should try both. As of today I have made my mind up to start LDN > amd skip the pump. Your e-mail came at the right time. What do you think? > I am glad you are doing so well. > > > > -- [low dose naltrexone] Update from Calgary > > Hi everyone, I'm going on 3 weeks at 3mg. and have noticed my fatigue > is gone. We just had 2 days of hot weather and I was able to go > shopping (with the help of a shopping cart) through Costco, Home Depot > and Walmart all within a 3 hour window. It seems the more I walked > the easier it got. I couldn't have done this prior to taking LDN I > just didn't have the energy. I've also noticed bathroom visits have > decreased. I'm still very pleased with starting LDN and I am curious > as to what will happen when I increase to 4.5mg. because 3mg. has > already been very beneficial. I'm still feeling achy with sore > muscles so I take Advil every 4 hours and it seems to take the edge > off. I'm urging and encouraging everyone to stay on the band wagon > with their updates and keep this LDN train going because knowledge is > power and we could all use a little of that. I've met a wonderful > couple in Calgary through 's LDN Forum who helped make our world > a little smaller. We all have to share information, it helps one > another so much. Have a great weekend. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Hi nancy, i think we might be getting a few messages mixed up both having same name if this is so and i answered messages meant for you so sorry. Millar so glad to hear your walking is getting better in only 3 weeks. I love walmart. >From: " Aletha Wittmann " <Aletha@...> > _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hi , I too was curious about 4.5. I have been on 3.0 for a month now started with 1.5 for 2 weeks prior to that. Than one night, 5 days ago I took 3 pills instead of two, the next day was the best day that I had ! So the next night I took 2 pills and the following day was ok but not like the day before. SO since that, I have been rotating from 4.5 to 3.0 ( my script only was for 60, 1.5 capsules per month ) but I noticed I feel way better after the 4.5 nights. I have rrms that only interferes with cramping in my right calf and rt toes that make me kind of drag my rt leg. On the 4.5 days I hardly get any cramps (day or night). I am very happy with LDN, I have seen noticeably improvement after 2 months, than the 2 years on copaxone( which I am taking along with the LDN) Best to everyone< nn----- Original Message ----- From: " helpforms " <ndoyle1@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:43 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Update from Calgary Hi everyone, I'm going on 3 weeks at 3mg. and have noticed my fatigue is gone. We just had 2 days of hot weather and I was able to go shopping (with the help of a shopping cart) through Costco, Home Depot and Walmart all within a 3 hour window. It seems the more I walked the easier it got. I couldn't have done this prior to taking LDN I just didn't have the energy. I've also noticed bathroom visits have decreased. I'm still very pleased with starting LDN and I am curious as to what will happen when I increase to 4.5mg. because 3mg. has already been very beneficial. I'm still feeling achy with sore muscles so I take Advil every 4 hours and it seems to take the edge off. I'm urging and encouraging everyone to stay on the band wagon with their updates and keep this LDN train going because knowledge is power and we could all use a little of that. I've met a wonderful couple in Calgary through 's LDN Forum who helped make our world a little smaller. We all have to share information, it helps one another so much. Have a great weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hi , Congratulations!!!! Happy to hear that LDN is working so good with you too. I started on 3 mg Sept 3rd, 2005 and stayed on that for 5 months to get my body use to it then I went up to the 4.5 mg. The only thing that happened to me was the first week or two I had trouble sleeping and was having wierd dreams but it went away within a week. The dreams just mean that the LDN is working. After those two things went away I'm doing great now. Always A Friend, Crystal helpforms <ndoyle1@...> wrote: Hi everyone, I'm going on 3 weeks at 3mg. and have noticed my fatigue is gone. We just had 2 days of hot weather and I was able to go shopping (with the help of a shopping cart) through Costco, Home Depot and Walmart all within a 3 hour window. It seems the more I walked the easier it got. I couldn't have done this prior to taking LDN I just didn't have the energy. I've also noticed bathroom visits have decreased. I'm still very pleased with starting LDN and I am curious as to what will happen when I increase to 4.5mg. because 3mg. has already been very beneficial. I'm still feeling achy with sore muscles so I take Advil every 4 hours and it seems to take the edge off. I'm urging and encouraging everyone to stay on the band wagon with their updates and keep this LDN train going because knowledge is power and we could all use a little of that. I've met a wonderful couple in Calgary through 's LDN Forum who helped make our world a little smaller. We all have to share information, it helps one another so much. Have a great weekend. My MS & TM WebSite www.crystalangel.org Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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