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In a message dated 3/12/99 8:50:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,

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<< Anyone else

have balance problems with these diseases? Judy (deejay) son, WA

Scleroderma 10+ yrs. AP 2 yrs. >>

Yep My balance is not so good I fall down all the time usually don't mention

it too much. I have been sicker this last month since I got the flu and

recovery has been slow for me. I fell in the bathtub last week so yes, I would

say balance is a problem and always has been. I used to think it was from the

hysterectomy but I think it is from the spondalaratherapies.

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Yep - I've noticed that balance has faded...I find it hard to stand on one

foot for more than 2 seconds...

-Mike-

(Psoriatic Arthritis)

rheumatic balance problems

>From: " Deejay " <deejay@...>

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>Hi: The words " balance problems " jumped out at me from Bev's post. My mom

>(In her 70's) has been diagnosed with " mixed connective tissue disease. "

>more specifically - lupus, scleroderma and myositis. She was having big

>time balance problems and I thought it was something else. Anyone else

>have balance problems with these diseases? Judy (deejay) son, WA

>Scleroderma 10+ yrs. AP 2 yrs.

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Yes before I turned the corner on AP I had a real hard time making turns

fast. I also wouls fall sideways a lot and not be able to catch myself.

That went away then back in December??? It started again for a week. Now

I can turn on a dime!!

Cooky

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> From: " Deejay " <deejay@...>

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> Hi: The words " balance problems " jumped out at me from Bev's post. My mom

> (In her 70's) has been diagnosed with " mixed connective tissue disease. "

> more specifically - lupus, scleroderma and myositis. She was having big

> time balance problems and I thought it was something else. Anyone else

> have balance problems with these diseases? Judy (deejay) son, WA

> Scleroderma 10+ yrs. AP 2 yrs.

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Cooky that is so good to hear! Thanks. :>)

Bev

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>From: COOKY STONKEY <cooky1@...>

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>Yes before I turned the corner on AP I had a real hard time making turns

>fast. I also wouls fall sideways a lot and not be able to catch myself.

>That went away then back in December??? It started again for a week. Now

>I can turn on a dime!!

>

>Cooky

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>Deejay wrote:

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>> From: " Deejay " <deejay@...>

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Dear :

Cooky has said her balance has improved considerably and I think mine has in

a small way also. Hope is around the corner. And anyway, It gives me a

laugh when I end up on the floor and stumble " up " the stairs. :>)

Bev

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>In a message dated 3/12/99 8:50:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>deejay@... writes:

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><< Anyone else

> have balance problems with these diseases? Judy (deejay) son, WA

> Scleroderma 10+ yrs. AP 2 yrs. >>

>Yep My balance is not so good I fall down all the time usually don't

mention

>it too much. I have been sicker this last month since I got the flu and

>recovery has been slow for me. I fell in the bathtub last week so yes, I

would

>say balance is a problem and always has been. I used to think it was from

the

>hysterectomy but I think it is from the spondalaratherapies.

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Dear Judy,

Yes, I have MCTD and have balance problems. To this day I don't

know whether they're from the disease or an effect of the Minocin. My guess

is that the disease is the major culprit, aided and abetted by a side effect

of Minocin. However, even if I start to go around looking drunk, I'm not

about to stop the Minocin. It has helped a lot in other areas of the

disease, and I won't give it up!

Mazumdar

MCTD 30 years (?); AP 9 months

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Just putting my 2 cents in again, don't have a problem with balance myself, but

" balance problems " shreiks of inner ear trouble to me, especially if accompanied

by any dizziness, vertigo, nausea vomiting or ataxia (loss of voluntary muscle

control). If I were you guys I'd bring this up with my doc, remember what I

found out about minocycline possibly being or becoming toxic to the ear? Don't

mean to scare anyone, may be waaaayyy off on this, but it wouldn't hurt to ask

your doctor! Sincerely, LizG

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I had it before the Minocin tho.

Bev

rheumatic Re: balance problems

Just putting my 2 cents in again, don't have a problem with balance myself,

but " balance problems " shreiks of inner ear trouble to me, especially if

accompanied by any dizziness, vertigo, nausea vomiting or ataxia (loss of

voluntary muscle control). If I were you guys I'd bring this up with my doc,

remember what I found out about minocycline possibly being or becoming toxic to

the ear? Don't mean to scare anyone, may be waaaayyy off on this, but it

wouldn't hurt to ask your doctor! Sincerely, LizG

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I would love to know what the problem is with the balance issue too. If we

listed all our symptoms, such as sinus problems and the balance thing, we

would have quite a list. My RD thought I was a hypochondriac.

Bev

> I have the problem with balance especially in the dark. In fact with no

> little bit of light to orient by visually I can not walk at all with out

> falling to one side or the other. I have had my ears checked thouroughly

> and its not them.

>

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Hi All,

Just to add to this, balance is a COMMON symptom in CFS. Considering how

many CFS patients test positive for the mycoplasmas, I am not surprised to

see that you arthritis folks have balance problems. I am not so sure it is

coming from ear and sinus problems either. It MAY be an effect on the brain

from the mycoplasma infection.

a Carnes

> I would love to know what the problem is with the balance issue too. If

we

> listed all our symptoms, such as sinus problems and the balance thing, we

> would have quite a list. My RD thought I was a hypochondriac.

>

> Bev

>

>

> > I have the problem with balance especially in the dark. In fact with no

> > little bit of light to orient by visually I can not walk at all with out

> > falling to one side or the other. I have had my ears checked thouroughly

> > and its not them.

> >

> >

>

>

>

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a,

I was watching Dateline the other night and they did a spot on

fibromyalgia. When they were showing one patient trying to walk, it was

instantly apparent that she not only was having difficulty from pain but

also was having a hard time balancing because she kept bumping into the

wall she was walking beside. I think the balance problem is pretty

common to all of us and I also believe it's exacerbated because so many

of us with foot and ankle problems are lacking the stability in that

area to conteract when we start to feel off balance. I know I had to be

careful when buying runners to get ones with good side-to-side stability

to try to compensate for the problem. I've also noticed it's a great

deal harder trying to get around on icy sidewalks because of this.

Between the balance and poor ankle stability, it's very hard to get

around on other than smooth, dry pavement.

Hugs,

a Peden

a Carnes wrote:

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> Hi All,

> Just to add to this, balance is a COMMON symptom in CFS. Considering how

> many CFS patients test positive for the mycoplasmas, I am not surprised to

> see that you arthritis folks have balance problems. I am not so sure it is

> coming from ear and sinus problems either. It MAY be an effect on the brain

> from the mycoplasma infection.

> a Carnes

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I have the same problem too. I've tripped over uneven surfaces quite

often. I have had ear pain but no ear problems. I also had several

severe sinus infections for about 3 years in a row. The last year I

also had pneumonia. It was the first time I ever had pneumonia.

--

Kiana Rossi

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Briarwood wrote:

>

> I would love to know what the problem is with the balance issue too. If we

> listed all our symptoms, such as sinus problems and the balance thing, we

> would have quite a list. My RD thought I was a hypochondriac.

>

> Bev

>

> > I have the problem with balance especially in the dark. In fact with no

> > little bit of light to orient by visually I can not walk at all with out

> > falling to one side or the other. I have had my ears checked thouroughly

> > and its not them.

> >

> >

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I've only encountered the balance problems in the past few years. I used

to be able to walk across a barn beam but wouldn't try it now. I was

walking to the car and noticed my gait. If I am ever stopped by a cop and

had to walk the highway line, I would be suspected of drinking and I don't

drink. I find this infuriating. I seem to be careful walking and seem to

step around like an old lady of 80 or more. Some days are worse than

others. My sinuses seem better too. Something I never had problems

before AP too. Is it the disease or the meds? I don't know.

Bev

> All my life as far as I can remember, I have tended to walk towards

> walls or a person walking next to me. Didnt have the really bad balance

> in dark till maybe 17 years ago. I have always had sinus problems and

> for years the ear that hurt from wind or whatever but no infection. It

> must be the AP but I rarely have the ear aches anymore. Have been going

> out without them covered much more now. (I got them in warm weather

> too) So far for the last 4 or so months my sinus have been clear and

> asthma much better.

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I managed to touch my nose with my eyes shut, so I guess I would pass that

one. Is that one of the tests they make you do if you are stopped? I

find some days are worse than others. Can't figure out why tho. Shoot,

if we counted all our symptoms, we'd sure have a bag full. :>) Glad to

know I'm not alone.

Bev

> Ive thought about being stopped and made to walk a line too, cause I

> cant do that at all. I had some tests done by a neurologist when trying

> to get disability. I cant touch my nose with eyes shut. Cant walk with

> eyes shut and toe to toe, I actually fall over, and yet he never put

> that on the report and said I was ok.

>

>

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Bev

It must be the disease and not the drugs, or certainly not the AP, because

I'm not on it (still thinking it all over!). I become very unsteady on my

feet, almost like I'm drunk when I definately haven't touched a drop

(honest). It's especially worse first thing on a morning and last thing at

night when I'm stiff, or if I've been sitting a while.

BTW everybody I too am a nurse, and incidently, it has been noted that

several nurses etc. within our particular hospital have all recently been

newly diagnosed with RA!!

Carol

Re: rheumatic Re: Balance Problems

>From: " Briarwood " <briarwood@...>

>

>,

>I've only encountered the balance problems in the past few years. I used

>to be able to walk across a barn beam but wouldn't try it now. I was

>walking to the car and noticed my gait. If I am ever stopped by a cop and

>had to walk the highway line, I would be suspected of drinking and I don't

>drink. I find this infuriating. I seem to be careful walking and seem

to

>step around like an old lady of 80 or more. Some days are worse than

>others. My sinuses seem better too. Something I never had problems

>before AP too. Is it the disease or the meds? I don't know.

>

>Bev

>

>

>> All my life as far as I can remember, I have tended to walk towards

>> walls or a person walking next to me. Didnt have the really bad balance

>> in dark till maybe 17 years ago. I have always had sinus problems and

>> for years the ear that hurt from wind or whatever but no infection. It

>> must be the AP but I rarely have the ear aches anymore. Have been going

>> out without them covered much more now. (I got them in warm weather

>> too) So far for the last 4 or so months my sinus have been clear and

>> asthma much better.

>

>

>

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Carol,

I notice too that it is worse when I first get up from sitting. Getting

out of the car is fun too. I was watching people get out of their car at

the mall, because I couldn't remember how I used to do it so easily. Just

swing around and stand up and go. I find I trade some symptoms for others.

Right now my stiff neck is gone and my feet and hands aren't numb in the

morning, but I have the balance problems and my wrists hurt sometimes and

the flu feeling comes and goes. I find it hard to do anything due to low

level depression and no get up and go.

I am sorry so many of yur fellow nurses and getting sick, but on the up

side, if there is one, would be maybe someone will notice this trend and

get us more research.

Bev

> Bev

> It must be the disease and not the drugs, or certainly not the AP, because

> I'm not on it (still thinking it all over!). I become very unsteady on my

> feet, almost like I'm drunk when I definately haven't touched a drop

> (honest). It's especially worse first thing on a morning and last thing

at

> night when I'm stiff, or if I've been sitting a while.

> BTW everybody I too am a nurse, and incidently, it has been noted that

> several nurses etc. within our particular hospital have all recently been

> newly diagnosed with RA!!

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You ask if the balance problem is the disease or the meds. The balance

problem is common in CFS and FMS. My balance problem and sinus problem

started when the CFS developed. Both problems have improved and sometimes

totally cleared up since I started the antibiotics. I know I have

mycoplasma, and I think it is the cause of my symptoms.

a Carnes

> From: " Briarwood " <briarwood@...>

>

> ,

> I've only encountered the balance problems in the past few years. I used

> to be able to walk across a barn beam but wouldn't try it now. I was

> walking to the car and noticed my gait. If I am ever stopped by a cop

and

> had to walk the highway line, I would be suspected of drinking and I don't

> drink. I find this infuriating. I seem to be careful walking and seem

to

> step around like an old lady of 80 or more. Some days are worse than

> others. My sinuses seem better too. Something I never had problems

> before AP too. Is it the disease or the meds? I don't know.

>

> Bev

>

>

> > All my life as far as I can remember, I have tended to walk towards

> > walls or a person walking next to me. Didnt have the really bad balance

> > in dark till maybe 17 years ago. I have always had sinus problems and

> > for years the ear that hurt from wind or whatever but no infection. It

> > must be the AP but I rarely have the ear aches anymore. Have been going

> > out without them covered much more now. (I got them in warm weather

> > too) So far for the last 4 or so months my sinus have been clear and

> > asthma much better.

>

>

>

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Rhonda, you might also ask your Dr. to give you a recommendation for an

orthotist. That is a maker of in-shoe orthotics, and also Ankle Foot

Orthotics. My in-shoe orthotics help alot with balance. Also, for some

wierd reason so does the medication Elavil. Kat's suggestions were great

too. Do you have a good Dr. or have you been evaluated at an MDA clinic?

http://www.mdadusa.orgg

~ Gretchen

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