Guest guest Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Hi Terri! First off, try not to worry too much! I remember going through the same thing. My primary told me it was either RA or lupus and I did the searches and scared the you-know-what out of myself. Second, if it is RA, with the medications today a lot of the damage can be reduced dramatically. (I'm at 8 years now with only minor damage to my pinkie finger joints. Third, give yourself time! Time to absorb what's happening to you. Time to adjust. It's a big adjustment and you will need the time to make it. Time to learn about this disease, if it's even what you have! You've already done the most important thing. Reaching out to people in the same situation! I've just joined this group and they have taught me a lot already. (and, as I said, I've had RA for 8 years.) The best thing I did was to join an online support group. The Arthritis Foundation: http://www.arthritis.org/ Good luck to you Terri. Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance. From: jenkstl@... Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:28:55 +0000 Subject: [ ] Advise for first time visit to Rhuematologist I have been experiencing consistent wrist and finger pain and minor other joint pain. A recent blood test showed my RA Facor to be 94 (normal is under 11). My Doc says to get to a Rheumatologist. The earliest I can get to one is 8 weeks out. This leaves me to Google searches on RA which frankly, has me scared to death - both of the disease AND the medications. I would greatly appreciate any advise on what to ask/cover with the Rheumatologist on my first visit. Also, any other sites that would be helpful. Thanks so much! Signed, (Terrified) Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Terri, one of your problems is that you read too much! This disease can be controlled much more than in the past and you may not have to put up with the efects after seeing the Rheumy and getting the right meds. I think you'll find that it's not as bad as you are afraid of. Sometimes knowledge is a dangerous thing. You already know that you may be bed-ridden or you may not miss more than the day of work you lose seeing the doctor. I can tell you the more you worry about it, the worse it can be. It responds to agitation and worry as much as it responds to meds. You'll be better off with a positive attitude no matter what the outcome is. I've had RA for 20 years and spent a few years in bed or in the recliner. I still have times like that but I also have times we can get on the motorcycle and visit other states or areas of Texas. That's the way it is for me, your experience will be different. Dennis in eastexas On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:28 PM, jenksterri <jenkstl@...> wrote: > > > I have been experiencing consistent wrist and finger pain and minor other > joint pain. A recent blood test showed my RA Facor to be 94 (normal is under > 11). My Doc says to get to a Rheumatologist. The earliest I can get to one > is 8 weeks out. This leaves me to Google searches on RA which frankly, has > me scared to death - both of the disease AND the medications. > I would greatly appreciate any advise on what to ask/cover with the > Rheumatologist on my first visit. Also, any other sites that would be > helpful. > Thanks so much! > > Signed, > > (Terrified) Terri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I think the saying is, " A LITTLE knowledge is a dangerous thing. " Sometimes you know just enough to misunderstand things, LOL. Dennis, I hope you're doing well these days. Sue On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Dennis W wrote: > Terri, one of your problems is that you read too much! This disease > can be > controlled much more than in the past and you may not have to put up > with > the efects after seeing the Rheumy and getting the right meds. I think > you'll find that it's not as bad as you are afraid of. Sometimes > knowledge > is a dangerous thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Terri, Yes, it does sometimes take a long time to get in to see a rheumatologist. Why don't you call the office and ask to be called if someone cancels an appointment? Then maybe you could get in more quickly. In the meantime, has your doctor prescribed any medication to help you in the meantime? If not, ask him/ her to. At your first visit, the rheumatologist will probably order a lot of blood tests. He will also examine you to see what condition your joints are in. He will probably have you come in later for all of the results. Believe me, rheumatoid arthritis is worse than the medications. The consensus these days is to treat RA very aggressively from the beginning, to prevent joint damage, which is irreversible. If a medication has too many adverse effects, it can be stopped and another one can be tried. It usually does take a while of experimentation to find the most helpful med for each individual, since we are all different. I have had RA since 2001. I was on methotrexate, and then Arava. These two caused my white blood cell count to get too low, so then I was switched to Enbrel. It has turned out to be my miracle drug and has kept my RA under great control so that I have no joint damage. Here are a few sites that will help you learn about RA: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/rheumatoid-arthritis/DS00020 http://www.arthritis.org/disease-center.php?disease_id=31 http://www.webmd.com/rheumatoid-arthritis/default.htm Good luck. This is a very good, supportive group to be a part of. Sue On Jul 12, 2010, at 2:28 PM, jenksterri wrote: > I have been experiencing consistent wrist and finger pain and minor > other joint pain. A recent blood test showed my RA Facor to be 94 > (normal is under 11). My Doc says to get to a Rheumatologist. The > earliest I can get to one is 8 weeks out. This leaves me to Google > searches on RA which frankly, has me scared to death - both of the > disease AND the medications. > I would greatly appreciate any advise on what to ask/cover with the > Rheumatologist on my first visit. Also, any other sites that would > be helpful. > Thanks so much! > > Signed, > > (Terrified) Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Hi Terri. I was the same way as you, terrified!..I got hit with RA fast and hard, and in 6 days I was so bad, that I was almost in a wheelchair. I knew nothing about RA, saw the Rheumatologist, and she instantly gave me 2 injections of Prednisone, and a injection of MTX. I was at the point I will take anything I have to to feel better. I never looked into the meds., etc.  A few weeks later, I went on the internet to look up RA, and then I was terrified and never looked it up again.  My Rheumy treated my RA very aggressively from day one. I was struck with RA 6 years ago. With the meds I take, I have been in a full remission for over 1 1/2 years. No flares, no swelling, and no pain. It did take awhile for my Rheumy to find the right " cocktail " of meds for me. I am very grateful and thankful for how far I have come. To this day, I have never looked up RA on the net again. I will take whatever I need to to feel better. Don't dispare, there are better days ahead. I never ever read about the meds I take or the side effects. That is just me.  I hope you have a good appt. with your Rheumy, and he/she starts you on RA meds. right away. Remember, we are all here for you. It is great you have joined our wonderful group.  Hugs,  Barbara ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Barbara, What cocktail of meds are you currently taking? I would love to be in remission, since this hasn't happened for me since it reared it's ugly head. Heidi in Denver ________________________________ From: Barbara Creedon <bcreedon@...> Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 8:00:57 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Advise for first time visit to Rhuematologist  Hi Terri. I was the same way as you, terrified!..I got hit with RA fast and hard, and in 6 days I was so bad, that I was almost in a wheelchair. I knew nothing about RA, saw the Rheumatologist, and she instantly gave me 2 injections of Prednisone, and a injection of MTX. I was at the point I will take anything I have to to feel better. I never looked into the meds., etc.  A few weeks later, I went on the internet to look up RA, and then I was terrified and never looked it up again.  My Rheumy treated my RA very aggressively from day one. I was struck with RA 6 years ago. With the meds I take, I have been in a full remission for over 1 1/2 years. No flares, no swelling, and no pain. It did take awhile for my Rheumy to find the right " cocktail " of meds for me. I am very grateful and thankful for how far I have come. To this day, I have never looked up RA on the net again. I will take whatever I need to to feel better. Don't dispare, there are better days ahead. I never ever read about the meds I take or the side effects. That is just me.  I hope you have a good appt. with your Rheumy, and he/she starts you on RA meds. right away. Remember, we are all here for you. It is great you have joined our wonderful group.  Hugs,  Barbara ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Hi Heidi. Here is what I take each day.  Sulfasalazine, 6 pills a day.  Prednisone, 10 mg. a day  Placquenil, 2 pills a day  Inject MTX 1 x a week  2 Leucovorin pills 12 hours after I inject MTX..  For pain meds, I always have a RX on hand for: Oxycodone  Tylenol #3 with codiene  I also take Cal. 1200 w/ vit. D 400.  Actonal calcium 1 tab. a month   When I got diagnosed, she started me right away on MTX, and Prednisone, on a very high dose.  Then she added the Sulfasalazine. Each time she added another med, she would wait a few months to see how I was feeling etc. Then she added Placquenil, but before I sarted it, I had to have a complete eye exam with my eye surgeon.  The only problem I had was I got catarac's from the Pred. It was a fast easy simple surgery, no recovery time, and I had each eye done a week apart. I had worn glasses since I was 14, for distance, but after the surgery I no longer needed them. I have 20/20, in one eye, and 20/25 in the other. He had one fixed so I could read my watch easily.  I have never been able to get off the Pred. and I keep trying from time to time. My blood work is done every 2 months and it has always been perfect. The only time the numbers went up was when I was flaring.  Hope this helps you. Wishing you pain free days ahead. Rest often as it does help.  Hugs,  Barbara ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 No, Sue, sometimes any knowledge is dangerous. My daughter's boyfriend was working on her truck and when he finished, the brake lights didn't work. His 'knowledge' told him that he knew this one was the fuse for that circuit. I checked it and it was good. He spent the whole HOT day under the dash trying to find out why the brake lights didn't work. I checked the switch and other fuses to make sure they were ok. Finally, he discovered that he had the WRONG fuse! He replaced the fuse and it worked. His 'knowledge' failed him this time. I'm doing fairly well, thanks. My chest still hurts from the bypass surgery, some days more than others, but it's still healing. I fell Sunday afternoon and skinned my left elbow and right palm, bruised my left hip, and messed my back up worse than it was. I saw a new Rheumy today, one I had used before, and he put me to the task of finding out what biologic I can afford. My insurance didn't know and will have to call me back when they find out. I'd fired my Rummy since he didn't want to work on my RA, just force me to quit Prednisone. When I called for a refill on my pills, he wrote it for only 30 pills, trying to force me to take less. I'd already told him I couldn't get off it, but he is determined, so I quit him. That was easier than quitting Prednisone and no withdrawal! Dennis in eastexas On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:13 PM, marysue <marysue@...> wrote: > > > I think the saying is, " A LITTLE knowledge is a dangerous thing. " > Sometimes you know just enough to misunderstand things, LOL. > > Dennis, I hope you're doing well these days. > > Sue > > > On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Dennis W wrote: > > > Terri, one of your problems is that you read too much! This disease > > can be > > controlled much more than in the past and you may not have to put up > > with > > the efects after seeing the Rheumy and getting the right meds. I think > > you'll find that it's not as bad as you are afraid of. Sometimes > > knowledge > > is a dangerous thing. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Dennis, I'm sorry about the fall; that's one thing you didn't need. I'm sure that pain lasts a while any time they have to crack open your chest. Hopefully, the pain will soon be gone. I hope you will have a good fit with your new rheumy. I wish you good luck with the insurance and a biologic. I consider myself extremely lucky that Enbrel works so well for me. I don't even need prednisone, either. I'm glad I stayed on it just a few months while waiting for MTX to take effect, because it does seem to be practically impossible to go off of it after long-term use. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Sue On Jul 14, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Dennis W wrote: > > I'm doing fairly well, thanks. My chest still hurts from the bypass > surgery, > some days more than others, but it's still healing. I fell Sunday > afternoon > and skinned my left elbow and right palm, bruised my left hip, and > messed my > back up worse than it was. I saw a new Rheumy today, one I had used > before, > and he put me to the task of finding out what biologic I can afford. > My > insurance didn't know and will have to call me back when they find > out. I'd > fired my Rummy since he didn't want to work on my RA, just force me > to quit > Prednisone. When I called for a refill on my pills, he wrote it for > only 30 > pills, trying to force me to take less. I'd already told him I > couldn't get > off it, but he is determined, so I quit him. That was easier than > quitting > Prednisone and no withdrawal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 Hi Barbara, Wow you take an arsenal of drugs just like me. My Dr. has never mentioned Sulfasalazine or Placquenil. What are the benefits from these drugs? Do you feel like this is the best cocktail for you? I really hope your having a good day. I got up this morning and didn't hurt like hell and the sun is shining and thought today is going to be a good day. I have a lot of errands today, but despite any pain I may feel I'm determined to make this a really good day. Take care!! Heidi ________________________________ From: Barbara Creedon <bcreedon@...> Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 9:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Advise for first time visit to Rhuematologist  Hi Heidi. Here is what I take each day.  Sulfasalazine, 6 pills a day.  Prednisone, 10 mg. a day  Placquenil, 2 pills a day  Inject MTX 1 x a week  2 Leucovorin pills 12 hours after I inject MTX..  For pain meds, I always have a RX on hand for: Oxycodone  Tylenol #3 with codiene  I also take Cal. 1200 w/ vit. D 400.  Actonal calcium 1 tab. a month   When I got diagnosed, she started me right away on MTX, and Prednisone, on a very high dose.  Then she added the Sulfasalazine. Each time she added another med, she would wait a few months to see how I was feeling etc. Then she added Placquenil, but before I sarted it, I had to have a complete eye exam with my eye surgeon.  The only problem I had was I got catarac's from the Pred. It was a fast easy simple surgery, no recovery time, and I had each eye done a week apart. I had worn glasses since I was 14, for distance, but after the surgery I no longer needed them. I have 20/20, in one eye, and 20/25 in the other. He had one fixed so I could read my watch easily.  I have never been able to get off the Pred. and I keep trying from time to time. My blood work is done every 2 months and it has always been perfect. The only time the numbers went up was when I was flaring.  Hope this helps you. Wishing you pain free days ahead. Rest often as it does help.  Hugs,  Barbara ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 Hi Heidi. How great you woke up and feel so good. I always have a plan for my day too. Yes, the sun is a happy sign for a nice day. I hope you run your errands successfully and have no pain.  When I was just taking MTX and Pred. I was still flaring, had lots of pain and swelling. My ankles and feet were hit the hardest. Just trying to stand on them when I woke up was pure torture. My blood work showed that I was flaring badly for long spells each time. She first added the Sulfasalazine, to see if I could tolerate it or have any adverse reactions to it. I did well on it, but was still flaring. I think I took the Sulfasalazine for 5 months before she added the Placquenil. I had to see my eye surgeon first to check out my eyes before I could take it. My eyes were fine. I have taken the Placquenil now for over 1 1/2 years with great success. It did take awhile before this " Cocktail " of meds. began to work. Finally I stopped flaring, no pain or swelling anywhere. I am very grateful for this. This has all worked wonderfully for me, and how long it continues to work I don't know. I hope it is forever. Biologics will never be a choice for me. I was treated for TB exposure for one year. I know with Biologics TB is a bad side effect, and I don't want TB of the lungs or bones. It really is wonderful that there are so many RA drugs to try. We all seek to find the ones that work for us. I did have a bad flare a few months ago, but my Rheumy upped my Pred. from 5 mg to 10mg each day and it worked great. After my surgery heals, I will decrease back to 5 mg. I hope my information helps you.  I too have some errands to run today. It is very sunny and hot in Florida. I love AC and could not live here without it. Right Doreen? Melynda roasts in Texas also........Dennis too........  It is always nice to talk with you. Have a great day and I hope you begin to feel better and better each day.  Hugs,  Barbara  ------------------------------------ nonsubscribers, you must first obtain the writer's permission. We are NOT physicians. Information on this list is not to be construed as medical advice, and we cannot guarantee the accuracy and currency of the information provided. For archives or to change subscription options: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 i'll still have pain from the surgery for 6 months to a year. It takes time for healing and rerunning nerves. One place that's giving me problems is where they harvested an artery in front of my chest just beside my right nipple. I'd noticed swelling and pain in that area but thought it was just a place where they clamped it since it felt like a round spot. Now it goes over to the center of my chest and swells a lot. Tonight I was making adjustments to the inversion table and now my chest hurts a lot more and is swollen, too. I can't believe the old Rummy was trying to force me off Prednisone by refusing me the script for more than the 5mg he wanted me on. Is that even legal? It's not like I'm abusing it as a controlled substance. I'm certainly going to give him a bad rating on his website because he deserves it! Dennis in eastexas On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM, marysue <marysue@...> wrote: > > > Dennis, > > I'm sorry about the fall; that's one thing you didn't need. I'm sure > that pain lasts a while any time they have to crack open your chest. > Hopefully, the pain will soon be gone. > > I hope you will have a good fit with your new rheumy. I wish you good > luck with the insurance and a biologic. I consider myself extremely > lucky that Enbrel works so well for me. I don't even need prednisone, > either. I'm glad I stayed on it just a few months while waiting for > MTX to take effect, because it does seem to be practically impossible > to go off of it after long-term use. > > I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. > > Sue > > > On Jul 14, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Dennis W wrote: > > > > I'm doing fairly well, thanks. My chest still hurts from the bypass > > surgery, > > some days more than others, but it's still healing. I fell Sunday > > afternoon > > and skinned my left elbow and right palm, bruised my left hip, and > > messed my > > back up worse than it was. I saw a new Rheumy today, one I had used > > before, > > and he put me to the task of finding out what biologic I can afford. > > My > > insurance didn't know and will have to call me back when they find > > out. I'd > > fired my Rummy since he didn't want to work on my RA, just force me > > to quit > > Prednisone. When I called for a refill on my pills, he wrote it for > > only 30 > > pills, trying to force me to take less. I'd already told him I > > couldn't get > > off it, but he is determined, so I quit him. That was easier than > > quitting > > Prednisone and no withdrawal! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 Hi Dennis, And of course prednisone causes healing to be slower. It certainly is a two-edged sword, isn't it? My sister had open-heart surgery several years ago. She had pain for a long time afterward. Even Barbara Walters has taken off a long, long time from " The View " after her open heart surgery to get a valve replaced by one from a pig. I hope you soon see the light at the end of the tunnel. You have been through so much. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Sue On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Dennis W wrote: > i'll still have pain from the surgery for 6 months to a year. It > takes time > for healing and rerunning nerves. One place that's giving me > problems is > where they harvested an artery in front of my chest just beside my > right > nipple. I'd noticed swelling and pain in that area but thought it > was just a > place where they clamped it since it felt like a round spot. Now it > goes > over to the center of my chest and swells a lot. Tonight I was making > adjustments to the inversion table and now my chest hurts a lot more > and is > swollen, too. > > I can't believe the old Rummy was trying to force me off Prednisone by > refusing me the script for more than the 5mg he wanted me on. Is > that even > legal? It's not like I'm abusing it as a controlled substance. I'm > certainly > going to give him a bad rating on his website because he deserves it! > > Dennis in eastexas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Check with your eye docs. I was on plaquenil for a year and my rheumatologist required me to get my eyes checked every six months. If you take the drug, it's important to have your vision checked every 6 months - first visit gives the baseline, subsequent check-ups monitor for changes. Jane from Michigan In a message dated 7/16/2010 9:47:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, hkimball48@... writes: Hi Barbara, Wow you take an arsenal of drugs just like me. My Dr. has never mentioned Sulfasalazine or Placquenil. What are the benefits from these drugs? Do you feel like this is the best cocktail for you? I really hope your having a good day. I got up this morning and didn't hurt like hell and the sun is shining and thought today is going to be a good day. I have a lot of errands today, but despite any pain I may feel I'm determined to make this a really good day. Take care!! Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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