Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 In a message dated 2/14/2002 5:37:19 PM Central Standard Time, transvlc@... writes: > No way am I going to sit there and listen to " dead air " , when > all they have to do, like you said, leave a note. > > Or just dictate where you end side A and say, " I'm going to flip over to side B, rewind the tape, and dictate some more. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 why do *you* have to erase the tape? Seems that the office should do that. However, I don't know what's standard in this industry. I'd hate to have to erase them because then they could blame me for *anything,* you know? Thanks for sharing the lesson. The same goes for sound files. Sometimes sound files can be lengthy too, and when I hit dead air, I just put it on the fastest speed and do something else while I listen for any kind of a blip. I've never found a missing report in the " dead zone, " but I have found some conversations between doc and nurse, nurse on phone, etc. :-/ Valuable Lesson I learned a valuable lesson today and thought I would share. I'm given schedules from the center I work for with a tape from each person dictating. I let them know if someone is on the schedule but not dictated (in case it was forgotten), and anything additional that is dictated but not on the schedule is written in by me in case someone there needs to know that (billing personnel, whatever). I always listen beyond the end of the last dictation to see if there might be more - letters or something. Well, apparently, I have not been listening far enough because today one of the dictators called me. He wanted to know where some of the things he dicated were at. This would be a very lengthy course description that of course was not on the schedule because it was something he spent the weekend doing, not noted in any way to be included, and I don't know why but he thinks he might have ended the day's work on Friday (which would have been about halfway through side A) and fast forwarded the tape and begun the extra stuff on side B. We! ll, if there is nothing on the last half of side A, I've never listened to side B to check. These are 45-minute tapes and I just don't have that kind of time to sit and listen to dead space if I'm not expecting there to be more work. My transcriber does not scan tapes. So, I wonder what you do? Here's a perfect argument for digital rather than tapes. I hate tapes! Do you all listen to the complete tape (including side even if there is nothing for half of side A? Of course I suggested the obvious - put a note on it so I know that there will be something there and to look for it. I just feel sick that I could have erased something lengthy that he spent the weekend working on. Any advice? Morrow, CMT Accu-Script Transcription Service accuscript1@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 Isn't just like a doctor to do something like that, a one and only time and expect you to just automatically know it? I always listen a little beyond where the tape ends, but if any of my doctors did what yours did, I would never know it. No way am I going to sit there and listen to " dead air " , when all they have to do, like you said, leave a note. val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 Well, stop feeling guilty because this isn't your lesson to learn...it's his...the doc. There should always be a verbal note telling you to go to Side B or he should grab a new tape. That's his problem, oh well for him. It's not our job to sit and listen to empty tapes and then turn them over and listen to more just to see if some idiot used Side B of an already used tape. I hope you didn't apologize! This has to do with his stupidity. When the dictation is ended and I have no more patients listed, I stop. If the dictation stops abruptly as in the middle of a dictation, I continue for a while and sometimes to the end of side A. If it's close to the end of Side A and it ended abruptly, I check side B but not the whole side. Oh, we've had one doc who wants the tapes saved, claiming that we're lying so that we don't have to finish the dictation. Well, that makes sense, doesn't it? ....we won't finish dictation so that we have to do more the next time when he re-dictates! Especially since we're paid on production and we don't get paid more for re-dictations, yes, that's very logical and sensible! Don't apologize, tell the doc that if he wants to dictate to take a tape home and to never add to a previously dictated tape, ever. Tell him that you don't have time to sit and listen to empty tapes and that will solve the problem. I doubt if a digital would solve the problem. The problem is that he thinks you should read his mind....you are not his wife (and if she's reading his mind, that's her problem!)...he needs to get a grip and get real and do his job correctly. Make it clear this wasn't your fault. Actually, you don't have to make it clear, all you have to do is say, " I'm very sorry you made the error in using a tape that had already been used, I'm sorry you wasted your time. Why don't you keep a few extra on hand and we'll never have that happen again and I'll always be aware of your intentions if you state them. " Sweetly of course and full of sympathy. Valuable Lesson > I learned a valuable lesson today and thought I would share. > > I'm given schedules from the center I work for with a tape from each person dictating. I let them know if someone is on the schedule but not dictated (in case it was forgotten), and anything additional that is dictated but not on the schedule is written in by me in case someone there needs to know that (billing personnel, whatever). I always listen beyond the end of the last dictation to see if there might be more - letters or something. Well, apparently, I have not been listening far enough because today one of the dictators called me. He wanted to know where some of the things he dicated were at. This would be a very lengthy course description that of course was not on the schedule because it was something he spent the weekend doing, not noted in any way to be included, and I don't know why but he thinks he might have ended the day's work on Friday (which would have been about halfway through side A) and fast forwarded the tape and begun the extra stuff on side B. Well, if there is nothing on the last half of side A, I've never listened to side B to check. These are 45-minute tapes and I just don't have that kind of time to sit and listen to dead space if I'm not expecting there to be more work. My transcriber does not scan tapes. > > So, I wonder what you do? Here's a perfect argument for digital rather than tapes. I hate tapes! Do you all listen to the complete tape (including side even if there is nothing for half of side A? > > Of course I suggested the obvious - put a note on it so I know that there will be something there and to look for it. I just feel sick that I could have erased something lengthy that he spent the weekend working on. Any advice? > > Morrow, CMT > Accu-Script Transcription Service > accuscript1@... > > > TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to nmtc-unsubscribe > > PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 Thanks, " WinnieBear " . I did suggest to him that he should not arbitrarily turn to side B if side A is not full and I suggested that he could do what his partners are doing, which is stating " Please go to side B " at the end of side A, and when totally finished for the day state " That's the end of my dictations for today. " It's simple, I know, and yet so overlooked. I also suggested that if there is something more than what is on the list for me to transcribe (notes that are not patient related) that perhaps he could leave a note pointing out the fact that he did some extra stuff. I still get horror flashes from the past (when I was an employee) when I worked for a doc who blamed me for everything missing - he swore he dictated and I erased it so I wouldn't have to work. Yeah, right. Well, ultimately, guess what? I got sick of it and quit so now I don't have to do his work - not because I was erasing tapes but because I was sick of being accused of something so assanine. Like you pointed out, it ultimately has to be done (and I was the ONLY transcriptionist so it ultimately had to be done by me). Oh well, such is the life of an MT. Chris Valuable Lesson > > > > I learned a valuable lesson today and thought I would share. > > > > I'm given schedules from the center I work for with a tape from each > person dictating. I let them know if someone is on the schedule but not > dictated (in case it was forgotten), and anything additional that is > dictated but not on the schedule is written in by me in case someone there > needs to know that (billing personnel, whatever). I always listen beyond > the end of the last dictation to see if there might be more - letters or > something. Well, apparently, I have not been listening far enough because > today one of the dictators called me. He wanted to know where some of the > things he dicated were at. This would be a very lengthy course description > that of course was not on the schedule because it was something he spent the > weekend doing, not noted in any way to be included, and I don't know why but > he thinks he might have ended the day's work on Friday (which would have > been about halfway through side A) and fast forwarded the tape and begun the > extra stuff on side B. Well, if there is nothing on the last half of side > A, I've never listened to side B to check. These are 45-minute tapes and I > just don't have that kind of time to sit and listen to dead space if I'm not > expecting there to be more work. My transcriber does not scan tapes. > > > > So, I wonder what you do? Here's a perfect argument for digital rather > than tapes. I hate tapes! Do you all listen to the complete tape > (including side even if there is nothing for half of side A? > > > > Of course I suggested the obvious - put a note on it so I know that there > will be something there and to look for it. I just feel sick that I could > have erased something lengthy that he spent the weekend working on. Any > advice? > > > > Morrow, CMT > > Accu-Script Transcription Service > > accuscript1@... > > > > > > TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to > nmtc-unsubscribe > > > > PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 I have an account with two problem physicians. For some reason there is a long pause and then they have more dictation. I've even discovered dictation in the middle of the tape on side B. I think they inadvertently leave their recorder on play, come back later, turn it off and start in again. Sometimes they take the tape out thinking they are done, then want to do one more dictation and put it in upside down and dictate it on side B. To be sure to catch all dictation, while proofing the file I've typed, I fastforward using the footpedal and listen to the rest of side A and then B for more dictation. Sharon Valuable Lesson I learned a valuable lesson today and thought I would share. I'm given schedules from the center I work for with a tape from each person dictating. I let them know if someone is on the schedule but not dictated (in case it was forgotten), and anything additional that is dictated but not on the schedule is written in by me in case someone there needs to know that (billing personnel, whatever). I always listen beyond the end of the last dictation to see if there might be more - letters or something. Well, apparently, I have not been listening far enough because today one of the dictators called me. He wanted to know where some of the things he dicated were at. This would be a very lengthy course description that of course was not on the schedule because it was something he spent the weekend doing, not noted in any way to be included, and I don't know why but he thinks he might have ended the day's work on Friday (which would have been about halfway through side A) and fast forwarded the tape and begun the extra stuff on side B. Well, if there is nothing on the last half of side A, I've never listened to side B to check. These are 45-minute tapes and I just don't have that kind of time to sit and listen to dead space if I'm not expecting there to be more work. My transcriber does not scan tapes. So, I wonder what you do? Here's a perfect argument for digital rather than tapes. I hate tapes! Do you all listen to the complete tape (including side even if there is nothing for half of side A? Of course I suggested the obvious - put a note on it so I know that there will be something there and to look for it. I just feel sick that I could have erased something lengthy that he spent the weekend working on. Any advice? Morrow, CMT Accu-Script Transcription Service accuscript1@... TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to nmtc-unsubscribe PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 I must ask: Is there such a thing as a transcriber that scans tapes? Because I work only part time and am disabled (meaning I cannot sit long) once I note that all the patients on the list I was given are done, I will take the tape out and put it in my hand held recorder/player and walk around listening. Even though she does say " end of today's dictation " I don't take the chance. Just my two cents. Aliceanne On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:20:36 -0500 " accuscript1 " writes: > I learned a valuable lesson today and thought I would share. > > I'm given schedules from the center I work for with a tape from each > person dictating. I let them know if someone is on the schedule but > not dictated (in case it was forgotten), and anything additional > that is dictated but not on the schedule is written in by me in case > someone there needs to know that (billing personnel, whatever). I > always listen beyond the end of the last dictation to see if there > might be more - letters or something. Well, apparently, I have not > been listening far enough because today one of the dictators called > me. He wanted to know where some of the things he dicated were at. > This would be a very lengthy course description that of course was > not on the schedule because it was something he spent the weekend > doing, not noted in any way to be included, and I don't know why but > he thinks he might have ended the day's work on Friday (which would > have been about halfway through side A) and fast forwarded the tape > and begun the extra stuff on side B. Well, if there is nothing on > the last half of side A, I've never listened to side B to check. > These are 45-minute tapes and I just don't have that kind of time to > sit and listen to dead space if I'm not expecting there to be more > work. My transcriber does not scan tapes. > > So, I wonder what you do? Here's a perfect argument for digital > rather than tapes. I hate tapes! Do you all listen to the complete > tape (including side even if there is nothing for half of side > A? > > Of course I suggested the obvious - put a note on it so I know that > there will be something there and to look for it. I just feel sick > that I could have erased something lengthy that he spent the weekend > working on. Any advice? > > Morrow, CMT > Accu-Script Transcription Service > accuscript1@... > > > TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to > nmtc-unsubscribe > > PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 I erase mine too; mainly because this is one fault of the one client (who is otherwise perfect) she will forget to erase the tape and I end up with double voices etc. That happened to me too. When I volunteered for a doctor in his office the office manager did not want me there; she had every reason to object as he was saving money and I was not an employee so I could leave if I wanted to...but I never did. Anyway one day there was a discussion, this doctor NEVER shut his machine off, about ME that was not complementary to me from her. Aliceanne On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:41:50 -0600 " Rennie " writes: > why do *you* have to erase the tape? Seems that the office > should do that. However, I don't > know what's standard in this industry. I'd hate to have to erase > them because then they could blame > me for *anything,* you know? > > Thanks for sharing the lesson. The same goes for sound files. > Sometimes sound files can be lengthy > too, and when I hit dead air, I just put it on the fastest speed and > do something else while I > listen for any kind of a blip. I've never found a missing report in > the " dead zone, " but I have > found some conversations between doc and nurse, nurse on phone, etc. > :-/ > > Valuable Lesson > > > I learned a valuable lesson today and thought I would share. > > I'm given schedules from the center I work for with a tape from each > person dictating. I let them > know if someone is on the schedule but not dictated (in case it was > forgotten), and anything > additional that is dictated but not on the schedule is written in by > me in case someone there needs > to know that (billing personnel, whatever). I always listen beyond > the end of the last dictation to > see if there might be more - letters or something. Well, > apparently, I have not been listening far > enough because today one of the dictators called me. He wanted to > know where some of the things he > dicated were at. This would be a very lengthy course description > that of course was not on the > schedule because it was something he spent the weekend doing, not > noted in any way to be included, > and I don't know why but he thinks he might have ended the day's > work on Friday (which would have > been about halfway through side A) and fast forwarded the tape and > begun the extra stuff on side B. > We! > ll, if there is nothing on the last half of side A, I've never > listened to side B to check. These > are 45-minute tapes and I just don't have that kind of time to sit > and listen to dead space if I'm > not expecting there to be more work. My transcriber does not scan > tapes. > > So, I wonder what you do? Here's a perfect argument for digital > rather than tapes. I hate tapes! > Do you all listen to the complete tape (including side even if > there is nothing for half of side > A? > > Of course I suggested the obvious - put a note on it so I know that > there will be something there > and to look for it. I just feel sick that I could have erased > something lengthy that he spent the > weekend working on. Any advice? > > Morrow, CMT > Accu-Script Transcription Service > accuscript1@... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 All I can say to that is, OUCHIE! ----- Original Message ----- I erase mine too; mainly because this is one fault of the one client (who is otherwise perfect) she will forget to erase the tape and I end up with double voices etc. That happened to me too. When I volunteered for a doctor in his office the office manager did not want me there; she had every reason to object as he was saving money and I was not an employee so I could leave if I wanted to...but I never did. Anyway one day there was a discussion, this doctor NEVER shut his machine off, about ME that was not complementary to me from her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 > I must ask: Is there such a thing as a transcriber that scans tapes? ..> Aliceanne Yes. Some transcribers (Lanier?) have the ability to give a readout of how many minutes of dictation are on the tape. However, that could be trusted IF the dictation is on side A only. In order words, as you are rewinding, it will tell you that there are 7.7 minutes or whatever amount. (My Panasonic has the option of a counter but it's not digital). I think though the same problem would arise if dictation was on side A and side B of the tape because it can't scan both at one time. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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